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OH we all have......many times and all you do is bury your head in the sand of ignorance while rejecting context, Greek verb tense, the definitions of words, etc. etc. etc. while peddling your cafe blend religion....start with the words...
Eternal
Everlasting
KEPT by the power of God
Sealed unto
Irrevocable
LOSE nothing
Nothing shall separate us
begin, finish, complete
never leave
never forsake
we, we, we, us
None, no not one
you that are without
Not A
AND on and ON and ON......you may deceive a few and have the wool pulled over a few sets of eyes on this site, but make no mistake pal....YOU reject the above words and the eternal contextual truths tied to said words.....
Eternal
Everlasting
KEPT by the power of God
Sealed unto
Irrevocable
LOSE nothing
Nothing shall separate us
begin, finish, complete
never leave
never forsake
we, we, we, us
None, no not one
you that are without
Not A
AND on and ON and ON......you may deceive a few and have the wool pulled over a few sets of eyes on this site, but make no mistake pal....YOU reject the above words and the eternal contextual truths tied to said words.....
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You know I'm right. 
Deep down, you know I'm right.
Osas is the doctrine that has to make it so that many scriptures do not actually mean what they say.
Deep down, you know I'm right.
Osas is the doctrine that has to make it so that many scriptures do not actually mean what they say.
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This format at these sites is very seldom fruitful. So expect what we have here with you. Would love you to stop by and sit for a spell in Bible study and prayer.
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The venom here is nothing and has nothing to do or of the Holy Spirit of GOD. It is of the devil the father of lies. He is the accuser and the father of it.
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The venom here is nothing and has nothing to do or of the Holy Spirit of GOD. It is of the devil the father of lies. He is the accuser and the father of it.
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If he @dcontroversal did show up, well let's just say I would love to be there to watch the sparks fly.
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I imagine you might drink a lot or got picked on a lot when you were a youngin.
Maybe you have hyper tension or maybe some other ailment. The venom you spout is not healthy and is not from a healthy person. Especially from someone with a healthy Spirit from God. Just evil really.
Worst yet there is a group of ya excusing one another in this ill un-Christ like behavior.
And please don't try to excuse yourselves by saying Jesus called people hypocrites and vipers.
There is only one Judge and he is it. Stop trying to usurp His Throne. It is very unfitting and very telling.
Maybe you have hyper tension or maybe some other ailment. The venom you spout is not healthy and is not from a healthy person. Especially from someone with a healthy Spirit from God. Just evil really.
Worst yet there is a group of ya excusing one another in this ill un-Christ like behavior.
And please don't try to excuse yourselves by saying Jesus called people hypocrites and vipers.
There is only one Judge and he is it. Stop trying to usurp His Throne. It is very unfitting and very telling.
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Go ahead @lightbearer give red X ..show your true self.
You hate OSAS because you know OSAS means that you have to lay down your pride.
You hate OSAS because you know OSAS means that you have to lay down your pride.
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I agree but you are disregarding the facts posted.
Please follow along......
"But the just one shall live by faith;" "and if HE is drawing back," "My soul is not pleased in him." But we are not of those withdrawing to destruction, but of faith, to the preservation of the soul.
(Heb 10:38-39)
The word for drawing back is in the 3rd person singular. Proper grammar dictates if a word is used within the same sentence that a Noun or Adjective is used that is put forth in the singular that is the Subject, that the third person singular is reference to the subject. That would be the "just one" in the previous clause.
That is why most translation translate the passage with a "if he" or an "and if he" in relation to the word translated draws back. Because proper grammar dictates it. Incidentally the NET2's New Testament general letters is part of the work of one who is considered to be one of best Greek Scholars of our era. Daniel B. Wallace of the Dallas Seminary'. He would not have his name on it unless he approved. It is listed here along with numerous other translation that have that part of the translated properly.
But my righteous one will live by faith, and if he shrinks back, I take no pleasure in him.
(Heb 10:38 NET2)
"But the just shall live by faith;" "and if he draws back," "My soul is not pleased in him. But we are not of those withdrawing to destruction, but of faith, to the preservation of the soul.
(Heb 10:38-39 LITV)
But my just man liveth by faith: but if he withdraw himself, he shall not please my soul.
(Heb 10:38 DRB)
But my righteous one shall live by faith: And if he shrink back, my soul hath no pleasure in him.
(Heb 10:38 ASV)
But my righteous one shall live by faith: And if he shrink back, my soul hath no pleasure in him.
(Heb 10:38 RV)
but my righteous one will live by faith, and if he turns back, my soul will take no pleasure in him."
(Heb 10:38 ISV)
But the just will live (by) faith; and if he should draw back, my soul is not delighting (in) him.
(Heb 10:38 GUV)
But My righteous one will live by faith. And if he draws-back, My soul is not well-pleased with him”.
(Heb 10:38 DLNT)
And it should also be noted that one can not draw back from something UNLESS THEY ARE IN A PLACE TO DRAW BACK FROM. And that place in which they were is the Just that was living by faith.
So with all that being stated one must reason that either you are right AND GOD through the Holy Spirit inspired the writer of Hebrews to use bad grammar and sentence structure. Which would make the text imperfect. Or you have been misunderstanding the text.
Amen but you missed the group in which Hebrews 10 and six are referring to.
"But the just one shall live by faith;" "and if HE is drawing back," "My soul is not pleased in him." But we are not of those withdrawing to destruction, but of faith, to the preservation of the soul.
(Heb 10:38-39)
The Just One, the Justified, the one made righteous and fit for Holy use. If He, that one should draw back. God will have no pleasure in Him. So let's not be those withdrawing from Christ's established righteousness but be of those who be of Faith to the preservation of the soul. For if we (the sanctified and perfected are sinning willfully after receiving the knowledge of the truth there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins but a certain fearful looking for of judgement and fiery indignation which shall devour, destroying those whom draw back trodding underfoot the Son of God, the adversaries. Those whom were Sanctified, but counted the blood of the covenant through which they were sanctified, set apart , made fit for Holy use a unholy thing and had done despite UNTO the Spirit of Grace.
Amen,
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, you that are working iniquity.
(Mat 7:21-23)
How much and how often does one have to working at iniquity for the LORD to say such.
Does a little leaven Leaven the whole?
Please follow along......
"But the just one shall live by faith;" "and if HE is drawing back," "My soul is not pleased in him." But we are not of those withdrawing to destruction, but of faith, to the preservation of the soul.
(Heb 10:38-39)
The word for drawing back is in the 3rd person singular. Proper grammar dictates if a word is used within the same sentence that a Noun or Adjective is used that is put forth in the singular that is the Subject, that the third person singular is reference to the subject. That would be the "just one" in the previous clause.
That is why most translation translate the passage with a "if he" or an "and if he" in relation to the word translated draws back. Because proper grammar dictates it. Incidentally the NET2's New Testament general letters is part of the work of one who is considered to be one of best Greek Scholars of our era. Daniel B. Wallace of the Dallas Seminary'. He would not have his name on it unless he approved. It is listed here along with numerous other translation that have that part of the translated properly.
But my righteous one will live by faith, and if he shrinks back, I take no pleasure in him.
(Heb 10:38 NET2)
"But the just shall live by faith;" "and if he draws back," "My soul is not pleased in him. But we are not of those withdrawing to destruction, but of faith, to the preservation of the soul.
(Heb 10:38-39 LITV)
But my just man liveth by faith: but if he withdraw himself, he shall not please my soul.
(Heb 10:38 DRB)
But my righteous one shall live by faith: And if he shrink back, my soul hath no pleasure in him.
(Heb 10:38 ASV)
But my righteous one shall live by faith: And if he shrink back, my soul hath no pleasure in him.
(Heb 10:38 RV)
but my righteous one will live by faith, and if he turns back, my soul will take no pleasure in him."
(Heb 10:38 ISV)
But the just will live (by) faith; and if he should draw back, my soul is not delighting (in) him.
(Heb 10:38 GUV)
But My righteous one will live by faith. And if he draws-back, My soul is not well-pleased with him”.
(Heb 10:38 DLNT)
And it should also be noted that one can not draw back from something UNLESS THEY ARE IN A PLACE TO DRAW BACK FROM. And that place in which they were is the Just that was living by faith.
So with all that being stated one must reason that either you are right AND GOD through the Holy Spirit inspired the writer of Hebrews to use bad grammar and sentence structure. Which would make the text imperfect. Or you have been misunderstanding the text.
Amen but you missed the group in which Hebrews 10 and six are referring to.
"But the just one shall live by faith;" "and if HE is drawing back," "My soul is not pleased in him." But we are not of those withdrawing to destruction, but of faith, to the preservation of the soul.
(Heb 10:38-39)
The Just One, the Justified, the one made righteous and fit for Holy use. If He, that one should draw back. God will have no pleasure in Him. So let's not be those withdrawing from Christ's established righteousness but be of those who be of Faith to the preservation of the soul. For if we (the sanctified and perfected are sinning willfully after receiving the knowledge of the truth there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins but a certain fearful looking for of judgement and fiery indignation which shall devour, destroying those whom draw back trodding underfoot the Son of God, the adversaries. Those whom were Sanctified, but counted the blood of the covenant through which they were sanctified, set apart , made fit for Holy use a unholy thing and had done despite UNTO the Spirit of Grace.
Amen,
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, you that are working iniquity.
(Mat 7:21-23)
How much and how often does one have to working at iniquity for the LORD to say such.
Does a little leaven Leaven the whole?
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