Is satan a fallen angel?
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It would seem to me that we are arguing over things that Christians would not argue over....we know who the devil is and where he came from in Scripture...in this thread people explained it....it seems strange to argue over the obvious and what is well known....
My point is Mary is not to be worshipped...Catholicism is false...we know
The Holy Spirit indwells people...but if some want to teach He does not Baptize and only P/C want to think He did....maybe the HS is mad that people resist the truth
My point why are we fighting over what we should all know
If people don't know and take opposite portions on issues does it not show that we are divided...and if we are so ....WHY
Because people want to fight...why not everyone get together and agree
It can't be pre mid and post trib
That is dumb...the Bible says what it is
It does and can not say 3 opposing things...thats confusion and God is not like that
So if all the chat sites people are arguing over opposite views they have tooooo many people who do not know God right
Each thread the truth was explained
Why then must we discuss the obvious
SATAN WAS THE FIRST FALLEN ANGEL WE SHOULD ALL WELL KNOW
PEOPLE JUST WANT CONFLICT AND TO FIGHT ON THESE SITES
God does not want this type of fighting with heretics. There are 200 posts in this thread and it is still going
Why not discuss how can we get together and get the gospel out
But people here will fight over what the gospel is for 2000 posts..instead of getting it out correctly...
This is going on because many don't know there Bible and have so much pride to argue the obvious truth told them from God's Word
Blessings
My point is Mary is not to be worshipped...Catholicism is false...we know
The Holy Spirit indwells people...but if some want to teach He does not Baptize and only P/C want to think He did....maybe the HS is mad that people resist the truth
My point why are we fighting over what we should all know
If people don't know and take opposite portions on issues does it not show that we are divided...and if we are so ....WHY
Because people want to fight...why not everyone get together and agree
It can't be pre mid and post trib
That is dumb...the Bible says what it is
It does and can not say 3 opposing things...thats confusion and God is not like that
So if all the chat sites people are arguing over opposite views they have tooooo many people who do not know God right
Each thread the truth was explained
Why then must we discuss the obvious
SATAN WAS THE FIRST FALLEN ANGEL WE SHOULD ALL WELL KNOW
PEOPLE JUST WANT CONFLICT AND TO FIGHT ON THESE SITES
God does not want this type of fighting with heretics. There are 200 posts in this thread and it is still going
Why not discuss how can we get together and get the gospel out
But people here will fight over what the gospel is for 2000 posts..instead of getting it out correctly...
This is going on because many don't know there Bible and have so much pride to argue the obvious truth told them from God's Word
Blessings
I came to this forum seeking fellowship with Christians. I find a street fight not much different than the political forums on the net.
I’ll just put my two cents in here and say, I don’t care WHO Satan is or WHERE he/it’s at. I simply believe Satan has one HELL of a lot of control over the flesh and blood of earth. I see him/it every day in the evils of this planet. I accept the conflict between good and evil on earth. I believe GOOD will triumph in the name of and return of Jesus Christ and Satan whoever he/it is will be destroyed. I’ll keep all of this in my heart as in my faith!
When y’all find out who Satan is and where he’s/it’s at and can prove it with scripture “civilly”, I’ll be interested.
I’ll just put my two cents in here and say, I don’t care WHO Satan is or WHERE he/it’s at. I simply believe Satan has one HELL of a lot of control over the flesh and blood of earth. I see him/it every day in the evils of this planet. I accept the conflict between good and evil on earth. I believe GOOD will triumph in the name of and return of Jesus Christ and Satan whoever he/it is will be destroyed. I’ll keep all of this in my heart as in my faith!
When y’all find out who Satan is and where he’s/it’s at and can prove it with scripture “civilly”, I’ll be interested.
People here proved who Satan was with Scripture in Ezekiel and people say they don't care...it does not matter...or they just keep arguing
How there can be such people explaining the scripture so well and others who refuse it on a Christian site is a bit weird
But people want to fight and argue it gets them off
How there can be such people explaining the scripture so well and others who refuse it on a Christian site is a bit weird
But people want to fight and argue it gets them off
The scripture in the book of Ezekiel does not say it is about Satan. It says it is about the King of Tyre point blank. The entire Bible never calls Satan an angel, fallen or otherwise just like OP stated.
However, Satan is identified in the Bible, he is an animal, a serpent in Genesis, and he is an animal a dragon and recognized as that same old serpent and his names are Satan and Devil in the book of the Apocalypse.
However, Satan is identified in the Bible, he is an animal, a serpent in Genesis, and he is an animal a dragon and recognized as that same old serpent and his names are Satan and Devil in the book of the Apocalypse.
Where did Satan come from? – Creation and Fall of Satan
Bible Question:
Where did Satan come from? Did God create him? When he first appeared in Genesis 3:1, he had not been mentioned prior to that.
Bible Answer:
The answer to your questions will be provided in three sections: the creation of Satan, the fall of Satan, the goal of Satan, and the victory over Satan.
Creation of Satan
Satan was created sometime before Adam and Eve. Genesis does not tell us exactly when this happened, but we know that this is true since we see Satan for the first time in Genesis 3:1. Adam and Eve are alive, and Satan appears in the form of a serpent.
Bible Question:
Where did Satan come from? Did God create him? When he first appeared in Genesis 3:1, he had not been mentioned prior to that.
Bible Answer:
The answer to your questions will be provided in three sections: the creation of Satan, the fall of Satan, the goal of Satan, and the victory over Satan.
Creation of Satan
Satan was created sometime before Adam and Eve. Genesis does not tell us exactly when this happened, but we know that this is true since we see Satan for the first time in Genesis 3:1. Adam and Eve are alive, and Satan appears in the form of a serpent.
Now the serpent was more crafty than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said to the woman, “Indeed, has God said, ‘You shall not eat from any tree of the garden’?” Genesis 3:1 (NASB)
The book of Revelation tells us that Satan, the dragon, or the devil, appeared as a snake or serpent.And the great dragon was thrown down, the serpent of old who is called the devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him. Revelation 12:9 (NASB)
In Ezekiel 28:13 we discover that he was a created being – a beautiful angel. He is a wicked angel.You were in Eden, the garden of God;
Every precious stone was your covering:
The ruby, the topaz and the diamond;
The beryl, the onyx and the jasper;
The lapis lazuli, the turquoise and the emerald;
And the gold, the workmanship of your settings and sockets,
Was in you.
On the day that you were created
They were prepared.
You were the anointed cherub who covers,
And I placed you there.
You were on the holy mountain of God;
You walked in the midst of the stones of fire.
You were blameless in your ways
From the day you were created
Until unrighteousness was found in you.
By the abundance of your trade
You were internally filled with violence,
And you sinned;
Therefore I have cast you as profane
From the mountain of God.
And I have destroyed you, O covering cherub,
From the midst of the stones of fire. Ezekiel 28:13-16 (NASB)
Well Timothy, look at it this way. All these Christians that are Roman Catholic, or the Protestant spin-offs of that, don't want to admit they were wrong starting back in 325 AD. Those of us willing to throw off the shackles of deception that has gripped Christianity for nearly two millennia will be fought by those not willing.
We are truly in the last days spoken of to the prophet Daniel: Dan. 12:4 "But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased."
With our ability to travel and learn--and to print what we have learned for the next person--knowledge has truly increased. Nobody likes to be told they are worshiping God in the wrong manner. But simply by doing it differently, we say just that.
We are truly in the last days spoken of to the prophet Daniel: Dan. 12:4 "But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased."
With our ability to travel and learn--and to print what we have learned for the next person--knowledge has truly increased. Nobody likes to be told they are worshiping God in the wrong manner. But simply by doing it differently, we say just that.
Let me say this:
A. The Bible doesn't state that satan is a fallen angel.
B. In the OT the word "satan" has been transliterated when appears in a neutral context but translated when points to people (like in 1 King 11) or even an angel of god (like in Nu 22:22).
C. The word "devil" doesn't appear in the OT.
D. The word "demon" appears 4 times in the OT as a pagan god crafted in wood.
E. Demonic appearances/operations cease after the Gospels.
Let me ask you this:
1. Where did the Jews know from about existence of demons?
2. Why those demons kept appearing while there were Jewish spies present within multitude of people?
3. Why those demons knew who Jesus really was?
4. How and whom Jesus "blinded" and whose eyes he opened (see Jn 9:39)? Hod did Jesus do it?
5. Why Jesus always spoke in parables to multitudes?
If you know the answers from the Bible not from the pulpit story tellers then let me know, please.
A. The Bible doesn't state that satan is a fallen angel.
B. In the OT the word "satan" has been transliterated when appears in a neutral context but translated when points to people (like in 1 King 11) or even an angel of god (like in Nu 22:22).
C. The word "devil" doesn't appear in the OT.
D. The word "demon" appears 4 times in the OT as a pagan god crafted in wood.
E. Demonic appearances/operations cease after the Gospels.
Let me ask you this:
1. Where did the Jews know from about existence of demons?
2. Why those demons kept appearing while there were Jewish spies present within multitude of people?
3. Why those demons knew who Jesus really was?
4. How and whom Jesus "blinded" and whose eyes he opened (see Jn 9:39)? Hod did Jesus do it?
5. Why Jesus always spoke in parables to multitudes?
If you know the answers from the Bible not from the pulpit story tellers then let me know, please.
The only problem is that God didn't mention that Ez 28 was about "assumed" a fallen angel satan.
Instead, in the claster of prophecies from Ez 26 God foretold number of things H e was going to do. In Ez 28 He foretold that a pagan Hiram will be privlegded to "walk on the Mount of God among the 12 tribes represented by the Biblical stones) beautify Solomon's Temple. He will be blessed by God in many way but reject the 20 willages of the Holy Land as Salomon's gratitude at the end.
Instead, in the claster of prophecies from Ez 26 God foretold number of things H e was going to do. In Ez 28 He foretold that a pagan Hiram will be privlegded to "walk on the Mount of God among the 12 tribes represented by the Biblical stones) beautify Solomon's Temple. He will be blessed by God in many way but reject the 20 willages of the Holy Land as Salomon's gratitude at the end.
The only problem is that God didn't mention that Ez 28 was about "assumed" a fallen angel satan.
Instead, in the cluster of prophecies from Ez 26 God foretold number of things H e was going to do. In Ez 28 He foretold that a pagan Hiram will be privileged to "walk on the Mount of God among the 12 tribes represented by the Biblical stones) beautify Solomon's Temple. He was blessed by God in many ways but rejected the 20 villages of the Holy Land as Salomon's gratitude at the end.
I would like to encourage people to quote clear text instead of making assumptions based on pulpit story tellers they hear.
Instead, in the cluster of prophecies from Ez 26 God foretold number of things H e was going to do. In Ez 28 He foretold that a pagan Hiram will be privileged to "walk on the Mount of God among the 12 tribes represented by the Biblical stones) beautify Solomon's Temple. He was blessed by God in many ways but rejected the 20 villages of the Holy Land as Salomon's gratitude at the end.
I would like to encourage people to quote clear text instead of making assumptions based on pulpit story tellers they hear.