Are you completely Born again????

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watcher2013

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The video does not introduce the foundation of water (H20) baptism .Its a old testament ceremonial law a shadow fulfilled in Jesus, the Son of man. its foundation is found in the old testament. Aaron and His two sons were used to introduce it . Destroy the foundation. Then this new innovation used to self edify ones own self can have a foundation of its own. No sign gifts.
No. Coz john introduce the baptism...no shadow..
 

p_rehbein

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BELIEF! REPENT! precious blood of CHRIST!

that's salvation

The Precious Blood of Jesus


Leviticus 17:11, 14 (cp. Deuteronomy 12:23) “For the life of the flesh
is in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an
atonement for your souls: for it is the blood that maketh an atonement
for the soul…. For it is the life of all flesh; the blood of it is for the life
thereof …”

Hebrews 9:22 “Without the shedding of blood, there is
no remission of sins.”

1 John 1:7″… the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth
us from all sin.”

Exodus 12:13 “… and when I see the blood, I will pass over
you, and the plague shall not be upon you to destroy you,
when I smite the land of Egypt.”

Revelation 12:11 “And they overcame him (Satan) by the blood
of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony …”

Hebrews 9:14 “How much more shall the blood of Christ, who
through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God,
purge your conscience …

Hebrews 10:19, 22 “Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter
into the holiest by the blood of Jesus … Let us draw near with a true
heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an
evil conscience …”

Hebrews 13:12 “Wherefore Jesus also, that he might sanctify
the people with his own blood, suffered without the gate.”

Romans 3:24-25 “Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;”

Romans 5:9 “Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.”


You should go back to your "tower" and "watch" from there
 

watcher2013

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#44
BELIEF! REPENT! precious blood of CHRIST!

that's salvation

The Precious Blood of Jesus


Leviticus 17:11, 14 (cp. Deuteronomy 12:23) “For the life of the flesh
is in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an
atonement for your souls: for it is the blood that maketh an atonement
for the soul…. For it is the life of all flesh; the blood of it is for the life
thereof …”

Hebrews 9:22 “Without the shedding of blood, there is
no remission of sins.”

1 John 1:7″… the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth
us from all sin.”

Exodus 12:13 “… and when I see the blood, I will pass over
you, and the plague shall not be upon you to destroy you,
when I smite the land of Egypt.”

Revelation 12:11 “And they overcame him (Satan) by the blood
of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony …”

Hebrews 9:14 “How much more shall the blood of Christ, who
through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God,
purge your conscience …

Hebrews 10:19, 22 “Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter
into the holiest by the blood of Jesus … Let us draw near with a true
heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an
evil conscience …”

Hebrews 13:12 “Wherefore Jesus also, that he might sanctify
the people with his own blood, suffered without the gate.”

Romans 3:24-25 “Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;”

Romans 5:9 “Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.”


You should go back to your "tower" and "watch" from there
EXCEPT A man be born of water and spirit. He cannot enter the kingdom of God....
You MUST be born again...
Does that sound mandatory....?

What is botn of water to you?
 

tourist

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#47
Can you replace that...
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On the contrary..its death
It is my understanding that the biblical term 'born of water' is referring to the physical act of child berth. Of course, once life begins the process of dying begins as well. Jesus was instructing Nicodemus about the difference between an actual physical birth verses a spiritual rebirth. You cannot have a spiritual rebirth if you were not born in the first place.
 

Lightskin

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EXCEPT A man be born of water and spirit. He cannot enter the kingdom of God....
You MUST be born again...
Does that sound mandatory....?

What is botn of water to you?
Everyone is born of water. Jesus’ emphasis is that water isn’t enough. We need to be born of the Spirit by having faith in Jesus.
 

watcher2013

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That's what I'm saying, I can't see the link. Please just type out the videos actual name. Thanks.
You can searchbin youtube the username
centenomarte
Video. Born again - born of water and spirit
 

watcher2013

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Everyone is born of water. Jesus’ emphasis is that water isn’t enough. We need to be born of the Spirit by having faith in Jesus.
Nicodemus ask Jesus...how can a man be born again when he is old?

Except a man (already a man-not a fetus) be born of water and spirit he cannot enter the kingdom of God.
You Must (mandatory and future) be born again.
 

watcher2013

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It is my understanding that the biblical term 'born of water' is referring to the physical act of child berth. Of course, once life begins the process of dying begins as well. Jesus was instructing Nicodemus about the difference between an actual physical birth verses a spiritual rebirth. You cannot have a spiritual rebirth if you were not born in the first place.
Nicodemus ask Jesus...how can a man be born again when he is old?

Except a man (already a man-not a fetus) be born of water and spirit he cannot enter the kingdom of God.
You Must (mandatory and future) be born again
 

Lightskin

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Nicodemus ask Jesus...how can a man be born again when he is old?

Except a man (already a man-not a fetus) be born of water and spirit he cannot enter the kingdom of God.
You Must (mandatory and future) be born again.
You’re misinterpreting the Scriptures and I’m not going to waste my time trying to make you see clearly when you’re obviously entrenched in your views. God bless.
 

tourist

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Nicodemus ask Jesus...how can a man be born again when he is old?

Except a man (already a man-not a fetus) be born of water and spirit he cannot enter the kingdom of God.
You Must (mandatory and future) be born again
Being born again is the salvation process.
 

watcher2013

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You’re misinterpreting the Scriptures and I’m not going to waste my time trying to make you see clearly when you’re obviously entrenched in your views. God bless.
I hope you watched the video in the OP...
Even just the last part...theres no harm in watching....
You see...
A man cannot be born again unless we buried the old man...
Burying this (dead old man) is in baptism (rom 6) .. as we bury the old man..we starting to plant a new man ( conception)...
GOD then give it new breath (sealing of holy spirit...then finally born again at resurrection ( born in spirit)
You see there is natural body (born of fles is flesh) and spiritual body (born of spirit is spirit)...
 

PennEd

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Nicodemus ask Jesus...how can a man be born again when he is old?

Except a man (already a man-not a fetus) be born of water and spirit he cannot enter the kingdom of God.
You Must (mandatory and future) be born again
Mandatory huh? I guess every death bed conversion through history, not to mention the thief on the cross that Jesus promised would be in Paradise with Him are lost too?!
 

watcher2013

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Mandatory huh? I guess every death bed conversion through history, not to mention the thief on the cross that Jesus promised would be in Paradise with Him are lost too?!
With the exception of the thief...after Jesus death and resurrection...your guess right...
Even the thief was baptised that day...baptism in the name of the Lord has no effect..for Jesus not dead and rose yet...
But the word from Jesus himself...thats another story
 
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No. Coz john introduce the baptism...no shadow..

John the Baptist the last on a long line of Levites that did exercise the ceremonial law a as shadow using H20 to signify the unseen holiness . Jesus from the tribe of Judah to represent the new testament order after Melchedik. .

Water a shadow of the unseen Spirit . Literal water at the most can a person wet which will dry up an disappear. Not a witness that a person has received the unseen Holy Spirit. A sign as a desire to become a member as a priest after the new order.
 

watcher2013

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John the Baptist the last on a long line of Levites that did exercise the ceremonial law a as shadow using H20 to signify the unseen holiness . Jesus from the tribe of Judah to represent the new testament order after Melchedik. .

Water a shadow of the unseen Spirit . Literal water at the most can a person wet which will dry up an disappear. Not a witness that a person has received the unseen Holy Spirit. A sign as a desire to become a member as a priest after the new order.
Since you are looking for shadow...
1Pe 3:20-21 KJV 20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water. 21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ: