drugs

[wolfywolfs]

i decided to talk about a different topic for once

i want to know your opinion on drugs

my view is that soft drugs like cannibis magic mushrooms. these drugs are known to do hardly any damage the worst thing that can happen to you is haveing a bad trip but you wont die from it unlike alcohole which if can kill you if you drink so much at one time.

now with cannibis i dont see why its illegal its safer than drinking or smoking(unless u use tabacco with the cannibis) it has many medical benifits. now with the war on drugs which we know costs alot of money all its doing is wasting money most people who are in jail due to drug related cases are people who abuse not dealers how is that solving the problem its justs costing more to keep average joes in jail.

if you was to legalise and regulate it it would costs less less people will get sick and do it in a safe enviroment the blackmarket income will drop the will be less crime police lawerys courts systems will have more time you you may pay less taxes or pay the same amount and the money that went on the war of drugs can go to bigger and better things.

now let me hear your views

 

[jimmydiggs]

Several biblical principles, tell me "no".

You cannot serve two Gods!

 

[VikkiKate89]

You would have to drink a MASSIVE amount of alcohol for it to kill you the first time.

I support legalizing marijuana and taxing the crap out of it to help fix the economy, I think putting drug addicts in prison is counter-productive (they should be in rehab, not prison), but mostly I believe it's not the government's job to dictate how I take care of my body. When it comes to matters like DWI's or DUI's, we shouldn't be lax at all because that puts other people at risk, and of course parents/guardians should also be held accountable, but if you're not at risk of harming anyone other than yourself the government should just butt out. Whether your for or against drugs should be your own personal choice, not the government's.

 

[Protection_Retribution]

^^^^^ About 1 bottle of vodka will do it actually.

 

[wolfywolfs]

^^^^^ About 1 bottle of vodka will do it actually.

depends on the volume and your self but there is a rum sold by barcadei that has a very high volume that one bottle will kill you and is illegal in some places

 

[AnandaHya]

I think you need to pray and have God bless anything you put into your body. That your body is sacred and should not be abused or feed things that do not edify and build up your body. Christians are called to live to glorify the holy Spirit that lives within us. Food is just to maintain the body, "drugs" can be used as medicine for certain physical ailment or poison for addiction and distraction from doing God's will.

It is God's will that His children be filled of the fruits of the spirit: Joy, peace, love, kindness, self control, etc. If one needs medicine to help control pain and have a more joyful life then it might be ok. However addiction is counter productive and keeps people from God so that is wrong. be it alcohol, weed, or prescription drugs.

 

[lightbliss]

... but mostly I believe it's not the government's job to dictate how I take care of my body... but if you're not at risk of harming anyone other than yourself the government should just butt out. Whether your for or against drugs should be your own personal choice, not the government's.

I usually agree with your posts but I don't know.

Some people use this statement and ones similar to it as their argument to support several things that are contrary to Christianity.

I mean, we're told to abstain from all appearances of evil and if I knew someone who was supposedly a Christian smoking pot or something, I'd either think they were new in Christ, struggling, or not really a Christian (this is general).

Not to attack you or anything because I do understand where you're coming from but I think that if you're for something, you might want to have a better reason than "it's not the government's business" (or at least this is how I interpret it).

 

[VikkiKate89]

I usually agree with your posts but I don't know.

Some people use this statement and ones similar to it as their argument to support several things that are contrary to Christianity.

I mean, we're told to abstain from all appearances of evil and if I knew someone who was supposedly a Christian smoking pot or something, I'd either think they were new in Christ, struggling, or not really a Christian (this is general).

Not to attack you or anything because I do understand where you're coming from but I think that if you're for something, you might want to have a better reason than "it's not the government's business" (or at least this is how I interpret it).

That's exactly what I meant by it, it's not the government's business. What I do with my life is between me, whomever I may effect with what I do, and God. The Government dictating what I can and can't put into my body to me is just as wrong as them deciding my religion for me, what clothes I can wear, what language I should speak, how I should wear my hair and at what length. It's none of their business The only time it should be their business is if I become a hazard to people who aren't myself. I'm not saying becoming addicted to drugs is right, I'm saying people should be able to decide for themselves whether or not they want to mess up their life with addictions, it shouldn't be the government's job to decide for them.

 

[FrankensteinGirls]

I have nothing against cannabis, the other "softer" drugs I don't think should be done all the time, but I believe it should be the individuals choice if they want to take them.
Everyone should stay away from stuff like crack though.

 

[lightbliss]

That's exactly what I meant by it, it's not the government's business. What I do with my life is between me, whomever I may effect with what I do, and God. The Government dictating what I can and can't put into my body to me is just as wrong as them deciding my religion for me, what clothes I can wear, what language I should speak, how I should wear my hair and at what length. It's none of their business The only time it should be their business is if I become a hazard to people who aren't myself. I'm not saying becoming addicted to drugs is right, I'm saying people should be able to decide for themselves whether or not they want to mess up their life with addictions, it shouldn't be the government's job to decide for them.

Okay, I got it

 

[wolfywolfs]

I think you need to pray and have God bless anything you put into your body. That your body is sacred and should not be abused or feed things that do not edify and build up your body. Christians are called to live to glorify the holy Spirit that lives within us. Food is just to maintain the body, "drugs" can be used as medicine for certain physical ailment or poison for addiction and distraction from doing God's will.

It is God's will that His children be filled of the fruits of the spirit: Joy, peace, love, kindness, self control, etc. If one needs medicine to help control pain and have a more joyful life then it might be ok. However addiction is counter productive and keeps people from God so that is wrong. be it alcohol, weed, or prescription drugs.

you say it keeps people from god but what if one took drugs because that felt closer to god or felt like they understood it better so there take the drug to be with god than be away from him

 

[jimmydiggs]

you say it keeps people from god but what if one took drugs because that felt closer to god or felt like they understood it better so there take the drug to be with god than be away from him

I would be wary of that.

14 And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light.

8 Be self-controlled and alert. Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour.

Anytime something takes precedance over God, it is by virtue idolatry. See Matthew 6:24.

I had a bunch typed up almost above the charachter limit methinks, but I'll leave it at this since I accidentally closed the wrong tab and lost it all.


Passages I would have used.

Against the law: romans 13

Obey god:
Acts 5:29
Obey the Law even if it is unfair, so long as it is not a violation of acts 5:29
1 Peter 2:18-23


Deception
1 Peter 5:8
John 8:44
1 cor 15:34
1 thess 5:4-8
2 tim 4:5
1 peter 1:13 4:7
Isa 1:10-17

Matt 6:24
Galations 5:19-21
2 cor 11:14

 

[AnandaHya]

you say it keeps people from god but what if one took drugs because that felt closer to god or felt like they understood it better so there take the drug to be with god than be away from him

that is not GOD that is a demon that goes by many names, the most recognizable one is LUCIFER, he likes wearing the robes of an angel of light and plays music to lull the masses. they call them chants and mantras.

Drugs open gateways to the spiritual realm without the spiritual protection of GOD: the Helmet of Salvation, the Shield of Faith, etc.

I would not recommend walking the spirit realm without the Holy Spirit as your guide. too many demons and you body tends to get possessed, I've seen people in drug induced trances and had to rebuke more than one demon who came through.

Yeah why was I at the party to begin with? I was the DD and my friends invited me. they gave me soda and we talked philosophy, but I"m Nurse tech certified so if they have a crisis in the drug room they call me, otherwise they steer me clear of that area and keep people away from me. took me a little while to figure it out, my husband says i'm rather naive when it comes to that sort of thing.

Doing drugs never made any logical sense to me so it does not cross my mind that often and I don't look to see if people do it at parties. I just enjoy the music, dancing and company.

College was an eye opening experience and all the Christians out there need to PRAY and be FIRMLY rooted in their BIBLE and have a strong relationship with the Holy Spirit.

Wolfy, we don't need drugs to speak with God we have the Holy Spirit that lives inside of us.

Perhaps one of these days you will accept Jesus into your heart

May God's grace plant the seeds of life and allow them to take root into your soul. I will continue to pray for you. Blessings be upon all God's people.

 

[Adrianv125]

Guess what people, if you truly love Christ you will keep His commands. Cannabis and the softer drugs are ILLEGAL, being a criminal isn't such a good testimony, unless we are prohibited from following the sane doctrine. So for your own good don't fool yourselves. Not only are drugs illegal, we are called to be sober. When you intake any drug for the means of recreation, you are bowing your knee to satan and opening yourself up to demons.

 

[Adrianv125]

And even if you have a Medical Card, it is still a crime under federal law

 

[brettnewman]

Do you want to know about what drugs can do to you wether they be shrooms, acid, speed, or cannibis, I used to smoke pot everyday,

If I didn't have any pot I was out searching for it, I lived for years like this,
It benumbs your senses it stimulates paranoia, it beclouds your spiritual perception, it takes away your confidence, and it consumes you, you become only for the drug, you find you can't do anything
unless you get stoned before you try,

If you would like an example of what drugs can really do to you, check this out

From leaving home,
a small country town, for the big city,
Entering a new world,
the dance scene,
Brett found and abused the drugs and the alcohol and his sexual desires,
before the PSYCHOTIC EPISODE THAT NEARLY TOOK HIS LIFE.

The Lord saved him and this is his conversion
This is his testimony,, his true free verse diary that spanned over fifteen years,
published in the U.S.A
This is Brett's.... (A Way to Redemption).

Check this link for editorial review.

www.sbpra.com/brettnewman/

 

[princessbella]

People have the right to do with their body what they choose however my perception from what ive seen having lived on a council estate rife with drugs from weed to herion or crack , is it does so much damage , it isnt just about the person damaging themselves its about their damage to others too, addiction any addiction makes you selfish you spend all your time energy , talents gifts , money on it waiting for the next fix, ive known mothers whove depreived thier children of decent clothes food love, because the need for a splif consumes them...for many it can lead to harder drugs to get that next high, can cause paranoi and mental health problems, violence apathy crime , hopelessness , ..this isnt a generalisation ive seen it and i work with people with drug addictions, have spoken to people whove acknowldged the damage it causes and most of them started by smoking weed... in no way am i judging im just saying what ive seen, and it truley breaks my heart..

 

[VikkiKate89]

I love that a second threat about this got started only it says "DRUGS" in all caps... seriously people 1 thread is enough for a topic.

 

[wolfywolfs]

I love that a second threat about this got started only it says "DRUGS" in all caps... seriously people 1 thread is enough for a topic.

its cos some1 promoting his book

 

[wolfywolfs]

People have the right to do with their body what they choose however my perception from what ive seen having lived on a council estate rife with drugs from weed to herion or crack , is it does so much damage , it isnt just about the person damaging themselves its about their damage to others too, addiction any addiction makes you selfish you spend all your time energy , talents gifts , money on it waiting for the next fix, ive known mothers whove depreived thier children of decent clothes food love, because the need for a splif consumes them...for many it can lead to harder drugs to get that next high, can cause paranoi and mental health problems, violence apathy crime , hopelessness , ..this isnt a generalisation ive seen it and i work with people with drug addictions, have spoken to people whove acknowldged the damage it causes and most of them started by smoking weed... in no way am i judging im just saying what ive seen, and it truley breaks my heart..

but i have seen people who have done weed and not gone down that path im at university. i persoanl dont belive the gate way theory manily because differnet drugs do different things its not like weed doesnt get you high anymore so you got to take e so you can get high it wont be the same seeing how weed makes your more chilled and chatty and e makes you energitic. with the people your discribing if drugs didnt exsist then they would just be buying alchole everyday they just dont care about life