Are All Angels the Same?

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JamOn

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Roughsoul1991 said:
Good glad you believe this. So if scripture has been inspired and God directed then why does the canon only have 66 books?
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You do have a point why does the canon only have 66 books should it be 65, who made the decision to make beautiful tits be of canon, I think Enoch might have been a better choice then again I am a male let’s praise beautiful tits all together now.

Songs of Solomon 4
5 Your two breasts are like two fawns, twins of a gazelle, that graze among the lilies.
 
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Did the Word need to be this graphic makes me wonder.

Ezekiel 23:20
and lusted after their lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of stallions.
 
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I didn't say they was.

I'll clarify. That paragraph wasn't talking about the above books. It simply states that Paul quoted Greek writers and philosophers and the Apostles taught using some examples from Greek philosophical ideas.

As to why if you go by just because Enoch was quoted and we should trust that the manuscript of Enoch today is accurate. Then we must equally learn everything about the Greek philosophers and include that in our theology as inspired.
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Yes Enoch was quoted in respect to the inspired words of Christ.They are written in the bible the witness of God .No mention of a whole book of prophecy from Enoch ?.

I wonder why the urgency of needing to add to the 66 books Is there something in a book called Enoch that could help us understand God more intimately ?

Methuselah because he lived a longer life does not make him into a Melchezedek a theophany representing the son of man who came in the flesh as needed .Flesh typified as if it was sinful was needed for the demonstration what the letter of the law could not do. Bring new born again spirit life to the believer. Methuselah was not used to replace Jesus who came years later to display the work of Him and the father.

It would seem the parable like Enoch disappearing mean he is still alive in his corrupted flesh and blood. Hiding somewhere.

The kind of idea that supports paganism and its necromancy doctrines..

Then went this saying abroad among the brethren, that that disciple should not die: yet Jesus said not unto him, He shall not die; but, If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee? John 22:23

The perfect law of two, the father unseen and Son working as one to provide the peace that does surpass all understanding.
 
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JamOn said:
Did the Word need to be this graphic makes me wonder.

Ezekiel 23:20
and lusted after their lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of stallions.
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While I would not promote it. It doesn't get any more graphic than death and returning to the dust as the end of the matter..

Using donkeys to represent un-redeemed mankind is found in ceremonial laws.
 
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Whispered said:
Just asking if you are aware.
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Whispered said:
Just asking if you are aware.
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I dont agree with it fully but many of its theological points I could agree. Nowadays everyone has different theological beliefs. I have to decide which are destructive and which are probably not. Judge them by their fruit method. Even a few folks call my theology wrong time to time but that's okay we will all know in Heaven what was right and wrong.
 
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garee said:
While I would not promote it. It doesn't get any more graphic than death and returning to the dust as the end of the matter..

Using donkeys to represent un-redeemed mankind is found in ceremonial laws.
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Yea what about the semen
 
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garee said:
While I would not promote it. It doesn't get any more graphic than death and returning to the dust as the end of the matter..

Using donkeys to represent un-redeemed mankind is found in ceremonial laws.
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The author used the balls of donkeys not just the donkey but it’s gonads
 
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Man didn’t know what to understand of the message so the authors used what they knew and what they saw of donkeys and horses as a representation a poor one IMO.
 
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Songs of Solomon is about sexual relationship among people, man deemed it canon
 
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I would offer. The person in the video is leaning on what he calls Historically accuracy and not the Textual accuracy . and adds his idea is 99% of Christianity. Relying on what the eyes sees, History as the witness of men . . . not mixing faith the eternal unseen according to the prescription.

2 Corinthians 4:18 While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.

In that way parables do not change the literal historical as the temporal. But like the noble Bereans who heard the word of God and by the Spirit of Christ that lived in them our God moved them to search His understanding daily. Perhaps by the hour .

It would seem Wheaton is a good College where both attended. It did leave a division between Mr. Lane Craig and Mr. Erhman.

The bible informs us in that way there must be heresies amongst us. This is so that we do not seek the approval of others as those who lord it over another mans faith.

The word of God is living empowers men to move in accordance with it.

The loving commandment (not a theory) is to be moved like the noble Bereans to study rightfully dividing in order to seek his approval of Him who does work in us to both will and empower us to make it possible to hear Him .

Remember Christ is our teacher and comforter. And in that way call no man on earth teacher for one is in heaven .He brings to our mind the things he previously has taught us. In that way we can teach as to how we say we hear. But he must give the hearing ears and willing mind needed to believe Him. . He is our first Love. . the one we turn to and run to in times of need. The waiting Father .The parable in Luke 15

Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.2 Timothy 2:15
 
JamOn

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garee said:
Or the Holy Spirit deemed it cannon.
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Yea the Holy Spirit found it necessary to talk about balls and ejaculation.

I can understand the message without all the visuals, men didn’t have to go to that extreme


Ezekiel 23

18When Oholibah openly prostituted herself and exposed her nakedness, I turned away from her in disgust, just as I had turned away from her sister. 19Yet she multiplied her promiscuity, remembering the days of her youth, when she had prostituted herself in the land of Egypt
22Therefore, Oholibah, this is what the Lord GOD says: ‘I will incite your lovers against you, those from whom you turned away in disgust. And I will bring them against you from every side
 
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Wasn’t needed to go that extreme in visual representation, they could have said something like.

and lusted after their lovers, like of watermelon size and whose desire was like that of seeds falling from a sunflower.

yea they heard disgust and went bonkers with it
 
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JamOn said:
Not sure if your for the duel owner stuff or against it, but I know this much God created the tree man created the paper and the Word was written in ink, modern times it’s the manmade printing press that delivers the Word.
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The word delivers the word . . wings of the wind.

Its the unseen spirit of the word called the "law of faith" that we are to concern ourselves with .Comparing the spiritual unseen to the same "law of faith". faith to faith

We do not wrestles against corrupted ,lifeless flesh and blood . The letter of the law kills as the wrath of God being revealed from heaven . . The unseen Spirit creates anew making the perfect law of God, the perfect gospel when mixing the two. No mixing, no faith, no gospel no hearing. Therefore nothing changes nothing.

Hebrews 4 King James Version (KJV) Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it. For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.
 
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JamOn said:
Yea the Holy Spirit found it necessary to talk about balls and ejaculation.

I can understand the message without all the visuals, men didn’t have to go to that extreme


Ezekiel 23

18When Oholibah openly prostituted herself and exposed her nakedness, I turned away from her in disgust, just as I had turned away from her sister. 19Yet she multiplied her promiscuity, remembering the days of her youth, when she had prostituted herself in the land of Egypt
22Therefore, Oholibah, this is what the Lord GOD says: ‘I will incite your lovers against you, those from whom you turned away in disgust. And I will bring them against you from every side
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It would seem that way. The image does not go away automatically, specially for men it would seem.

But I am sure it was not to embarrass us, it should.

Asses or donkeys are used in ceremonial laws. Ceremonial laws do use seed to represent the source of multiplying .

The embarrassment to some who are more private. I would hope would not drive them away but search out is hidden understanding .It could aid in looking for understanding when things seem to get out of focus.

Deuteronomy 25:11"When two men are fighting and the wife of one of them intervenes to drag her husband clear of his opponent, if she puts out her hand and catches hold of the man by his privates, you must cut off her hand and show her no mercy."

A picture or parable of natural faithless mankind. Flesh and blood, wrestling against corrupted flesh and blood.

In the parable above she is shown as the defiled woman, unredeemed mankind as those who do not have redeeming mercy . The wife of Christ is shown as spotless without wrinkle.
 
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JamOn said:
Yea the Holy Spirit found it necessary to talk about balls and ejaculation.

I can understand the message without all the visuals, men didn’t have to go to that extreme
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The revealed written Word of God is neither frivolous nor extraneous.
 
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Eze 23:4 The older one was named Oholah and her sister was named Oholibah. They belonged to me and gave birth to sons and daughters. Now as to their real identities, Oholah refers to Samaria and Oholibah to Jerusalem."

This is the key to understanding what God is saying through Ezekiel. THEY BELONGED TO ME. Yet they committed idolatry, accepting the gods of those surrounding them.

Intimacy with God is depicted in the New Testament even by marriage. Becoming one with Him. Paul then wrote it as members of His body, the body of Christ. The true church.

The graphic pic being protested is to show how evil the demonic spirits are behind idols of man that lust after innocence....to pervert.
 
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garee said:
It would seem that way. The image does not go away automatically, specially for men it would seem.

But I am sure it was not to embarrass us, it should.

Asses or donkeys are used in ceremonial laws. Ceremonial laws do use seed to represent the source of multiplying .

The embarrassment to some who are more private. I would hope would not drive them away but search out is hidden understanding .It could aid in looking for understanding when things seem to get out of focus.

Deuteronomy 25:11"When two men are fighting and the wife of one of them intervenes to drag her husband clear of his opponent, if she puts out her hand and catches hold of the man by his privates, you must cut off her hand and show her no mercy."

A picture or parable of natural faithless mankind. Flesh and blood, wrestling against corrupted flesh and blood.

In the parable above she is shown as the defiled woman, unredeemed mankind as those who do not have redeeming mercy . The wife of Christ is shown as spotless without wrinkle.
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I think it’s like today, people expressing things that don’t really need to be in a extreme measure.
 
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stonesoffire said:
Eze 23:4 The older one was named Oholah and her sister was named Oholibah. They belonged to me and gave birth to sons and daughters. Now as to their real identities, Oholah refers to Samaria and Oholibah to Jerusalem."

This is the key to understanding what God is saying through Ezekiel. THEY BELONGED TO ME. Yet they committed idolatry, accepting the gods of those surrounding them.

Intimacy with God is depicted in the New Testament even by marriage. Becoming one with Him. Paul then wrote it as members of His body, the body of Christ. The true church.

The graphic pic being protested is to show how evil the demonic spirits are behind idols of man that lust after innocence....to pervert.
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What does the horse semen represent?
 
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