Not By Works
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Former born again person?
Would you suppose a former born again person could become born again, again?
It is impossible for us to believe something we can't see as true. I just have trouble understanding how you believe God could save someone from a just punishment, then that same someone ends up burning in Hell.
We can know now we have eternal life. This is a gift of God.
You always mention to keep believing... it just sounds so wrong....
It is impossible for me to not believe in God.... I know Him.... I trust in Christ... (part of faith is more than just belief but also trust.... confidence.... FAITHFULNESS-loyalty)
His sheep hear His voice and if we were to wander so far off we couldn't.... He would come find us....
(please if you respond don't delete anything even if you don't address it all)
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12Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.
15 But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.
16 And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is of many offences unto justification.
17 For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.)
18 Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.
19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.
13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.
15 But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.
16 And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is of many offences unto justification.
17 For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.)
18 Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.
19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.
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Yep I stopped listening to you ages ago 
I still listen to you....because I am a super duper loving, kind, patient, doer of all and every good work, filled with all fruits of the spirit believer, which without a shadow of a doubt proves my salvation!!!
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A very, very smart move on your part
I still listen to you....because I am a super duper loving, kind, patient, doer of all and every good work, filled with all fruits of the spirit believer, which without a shadow of a doubt proves my salvation!!!
I still listen to you....because I am a super duper loving, kind, patient, doer of all and every good work, filled with all fruits of the spirit believer, which without a shadow of a doubt proves my salvation!!!
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I already addressed that here: https://christianchat.com/threads/not-by-works.146296/post-4175535
No inconsistencies here.
No inconsistencies here.
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Basic Christianity!101 nobody comes to Christ unless the Father draws them, ( calls them out ). What that means is those ones" want to". Even if God's word is not available, the drawing of the Father is sufficient, why? Because the correct response to that Call is simply surrending our life to the caller. Turning, ( repentance ) then walking towards the caller in continual surrender. That's how God worked before the 1500's when God's word wasn't available to " believe."
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The fact that you replied to @mailmandan well stated post with "ridiculous"
Is the true ridiculousness!!!
Is the true ridiculousness!!!
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@Judges1318 No, you actually don’t believe John 6:40. The ones who are saved will also be resurrected, these two statements are inseparable facts that will take place in all who come to Christ.
"40and this is the will of Him who sent me, that every one who is beholding the Son, and is believing in him, may have life age-during, and I will raise him up in the last day.’" - John 6:40 YLT
The promise is for the presently believing person. Not the one who never believed, or the fake believer, or the ex-believer. Which I know you agree with, it's just that you don't believe there is such a thing as an ex-believer. That's where your contention lies. Not in the fact that only believing people will be resurrected to life.
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