The Age of the Universe

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Man that full detail won’t be released, it did a lot damaged to the environment around that area, the ocean took the brunt of it.

But on the bright side the new reactors being built can be shut down fast without any radioactive spillage
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They say dead wild life on the beaches there won't even decompose .. But it seem the affects so far are not as bad as some feared at first .. It's hard to get any updates ..
 
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Oddly enough sunlight is central to life, yet to much is highly harmful to humans
 
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They say dead wild life on the beaches there won't even decompose .. But it seem the affects so far are not as bad as some feared at first .. It's hard to get any updates ..
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It’s under the surface also being so close to the ocean, I don’t think they want to really say how much damage it has done.
 
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It’s under the surface also being so close to the ocean, I don’t think they want to really say how much damage it has done.
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Last I heard all those water tanks they were wanting to dump them in the ocean too .. Those Japanese are the worst I've ever worked around concerning safety , crazy compared to our standards , construction anyway ..
 
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God lives in an eternal world, His perceptions are so much more in detail and complete then ours are. When people decided that God told them the world was limited in age and science said differently people flocked to the non believing side, and if you look at it closely, scripture did not say that. Science has helped us understand.
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I had a dream when I was around 8 years old where God took me out into the universe and showed me that the universe was expanding and at some point in time the universe would shrink and everything would come back together again. Recently I have learned that there is a oneness with God and Science is trying to understand this singularity or this oneness. The lesson in this is that people were drifting apart but like the universe He is going to bring them back together again. I believe the atonement is two fold. Jesus sacrificed Himself so we can be reunited with the Father. Also so we can be reconciled with each other.
 
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What about chernobyl that place is still active and will be for a long time
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The animals are doing fine. There is some mutation but they have re established their own ecosystem. It is still to much of a health hazard for people to live there.
 
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I think you are as much in awe of scripture as I am! But it grieves me to hear people read things in it that it does not say.

God lives in an eternal world, His perceptions are so much more in detail and complete then ours are. When people decided that God told them the world was limited in age and science said differently people flocked to the non believing side, and if you look at it closely, scripture did not say that. Science has helped us understand.

Think of the time people said scripture said the world was flat! When we let science and scripture work together, science helps us understand the Lord.

God has to make things beyond our selves so we can understand. I think it is wonderful how he uses things we know to explain to us. Like using water to explain spiritual cleanliness, and just think of the spiritual explanation salt gives us!
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interesting that using Salt as a Preservative, Preserving food with salt is an ancient practice.
 
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JohnR7 said:
I had a dream when I was around 8 years old where God took me out into the universe and showed me that the universe was expanding and at some point in time the universe would shrink and everything would come back together again. Recently I have learned that there is a oneness with God and Science is trying to understand this singularity or this oneness. The lesson in this is that people were drifting apart but like the universe He is going to bring them back together again. I believe the atonement is two fold. Jesus sacrificed Himself so we can be reunited with the Father. Also so we can be reconciled with each other.
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That’s interesting indeed, scripture says God created the heavens by His breath not breaths but a single breath, is our universe in exhale and one day He will inhale

Psalm 33:6
By the word of the LORD the heavens were made, And all the host of them by the breath of His mouth.
 
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You have replied as much as anyone on this thread and you support OEC .. Now you say why worry .. I don't worry except for those who are going to hell and OEC/evolution helps no one , where's the persecution when they side against the truth ..
Hey , I just found and posted this unrelated video in another thread .. Check it out

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You can believe in OEC without Evolution. Fossil record doesn't support Evolution. I dont see your reasoning why me responding is a problem? When did trying to create unity become a problem?
 
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Because it is broken and needs fixed or repaired. Jesus said "it is finished" (John 19:30) almost 2,000 years ago. Yet I had not been born and He had not begun to do a work of redemption and restoration in my life.
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Good. Simple as scripture often is. All other details about creation may help a individuals faith but beyond that the message in scripture is clear and straightforward. We can debate details but shouldn't divide over the message with this topic.
 
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Then there’s Uranium even if the rate is off by 80 percent that is still well over a million yrs

Uranium decays slowly by emitting an alpha particle. The half-life of uranium-238 is about 4.47 billion years and that of uranium-235 is 704 million years, making them useful in dating the age of the Earth.
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its only useful if all things continue as they are since the beginning,

We know this is not the case.. This the usefulness is only accurate up to a point.
 
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What about Mt St Helens and various radiometric dating showing new formed 40 yr old rock being dated from 250000 to a couple million yrs old .
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and lets not forget the mini grand canyon. formed in a matter of days, not billions of years.
 
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HA, I don't know, what about it .. There's different types of radiation .. Some radiation takes a long time for sure .. Like spent fuel from a nuclear reaction ..
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where does radiation come from? Did you know science can create it today?
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
where does radiation come from? Did you know science can create it today?
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I probably don't know right off hand except God did it
I would assume destabilizing atomic structure
I believe there may be a viable cold fussion like ''back to the future'' flux capaciter
I know they have to add the plutonium to the uranium for things to get hot ..
 
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That’s interesting indeed, scripture says God created the heavens by His breath not breaths but a single breath, is our universe in exhale and one day He will inhale
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Yes "God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, after Our likeness" (Genesis 1:27) Us means Father, Son & Holy Spirit. The "breath" part has to do with the Holy Spirit. The Hasidic refer to this as to run and return and is a part of the cycles of life. We breathe in and we breathe out. God breaths into us and He expects us to return that to Him. Oxygen is actually produced by plants. So that is story onto itself, esp we talk about a time in history called the great oxygen event. Like the lungs in and out the heart delivers blood with oxygen to the cells. Also with light. God gives us light and we are to return that to Him. This is represented by a crown a symbol of God's life & light shining from us.
 
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You can believe in OEC without Evolution. Fossil record doesn't support Evolution. I dont see your reasoning why me responding is a problem? When did trying to create unity become a problem?
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Why does the fossil record not support creation or YEC ? That is one of the greatest proofs of YEC creation .. How old was Adam the 6th day of creation ? You can add up Adams age at death on down to Noah, to the flood, through the flood and what day they left the Ark .. Why would I need to hold up God's Word in front of the class and say ''the bible says this but it's wrong because professor godless says in this other book he dreamed up he knows better'' ..
 
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You can believe in OEC without Evolution. Fossil record doesn't support Evolution. I dont see your reasoning why me responding is a problem? When did trying to create unity become a problem?
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I posted that unrelated video and asked you to look .. You claim this discussion doesn't matter but can't lay it down enough to glance at that video .. You're not alone though , I have received no comments on it so far and it is potentially one of the biggest yet simplest medical breakthroughs I've seen .. And also I assure you that I speak to you just like I do my sons or one of my team like when I coached to win .. Now give me one good lap around the field and whoever wins gets to run another lap while all the others sit and watch .. God Bless
 
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I probably don't know right off hand except God did it
I would assume destabilizing atomic structure
I believe there may be a viable cold fussion like ''back to the future'' flux capaciter
I know they have to add the plutonium to the uranium for things to get hot ..
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Actually it is made when elextric current flows through the earth. They have witnessed this during major earthquakes. It may be possible to see all or most of the radioactive material was created when the fountains of the great deep Opened
 
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Why does the fossil record not support creation or YEC ? That is one of the greatest proofs of YEC creation .. How old was Adam the 6th day of creation ? You can add up Adams age at death on down to Noah, to the flood, through the flood and what day they left the Ark .. Why would I need to hold up God's Word in front of the class and say ''the bible says this but it's wrong because professor godless says in this other book he dreamed up he knows better'' ..
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The flood is the only reasonable answer of the fossiil record i agree
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
Actually it is made when elextric current flows through the earth. They have witnessed this during major earthquakes. It may be possible to see all or most of the radioactive material was created when the fountains of the great deep Opened
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That's interesting
 
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