The name above every name!!!

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watcher2013

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The Son of God was given a name above every name.
The angel said to Joseph what the name of the child shall be called, hence the name came from God.
Joseph and mary were Jewish...language Hebrew
the apostles obviously baptized in the name of our Lord in their language.
I understand the name is pronounce in hebrew as Yeshua correct me if I am wrong.

If your name is converted in other language it will be pronounce wrong and you yourself would not even turn your head if you are called in different language.


Should we request/baptize in the name of Jesus or other converted names of Jesus or the true name in Hebrew/pronounce in hebrew?
 
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Locoponydirtman

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The Son of God was given a name above every name.
The angel said to Joseph what the name of the child shall be called, hence the name came from God.
Joseph and mary were Jewish...language Hebrew
the apostles obviously baptized in the name of our Lord in their language.
I understand the name is pronounce in hebrew as Yeshua correct me if I am wrong.

If your name is converted in other language it will be pronounce wrong and you yourself would not even turn your head if you are called in different language.


Should we request/baptize in the name of Jesus or other converted names of Jesus or the true name in Hebrew/pronounce in hebrew?
So you think He don't understand all the languages of the earth...?
The only reason I wouldn't answer someone calling to me in another language would be because I don't understand their language. If i understand their language then I know they are talking to me and I will answer them. I knew a woman from Sweden, and her name was difficult to say for those who don't speak Dutch, but her name in English was Charlotte, but us her friends called her Lotta. She answered to all three names if someone said anyone one of them.
I think you should expand your horizons and get to know people from other countries who speak very different languages. They will call you their language version of your name and you will call them an English version of their name. Which is really cool because now you will know your own name in many languages.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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Wow ok you have been in the Philippines and in Ireland, so you already know what I said above is true, so what is the point? You think God is up in Heaven ignoring those who call on his name in their language? That this languages as he created them are a barrier so we must all learn Hebrew, to study the bible and worship God? Except that most of the new testament is written in Greek and the Name of Jesus in Greek in the Greek texts, and in Hebrew in the Hebrew texts, pronounced and spelled quite differently.
 

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The Son of God was given a name above every name.
The angel said to Joseph what the name of the child shall be called, hence the name came from God.
Joseph and mary were Jewish...language Hebrew
the apostles obviously baptized in the name of our Lord in their language.
I understand the name is pronounce in hebrew as Yeshua correct me if I am wrong.

If your name is converted in other language it will be pronounce wrong and you yourself would not even turn your head if you are called in different language.


Should we request/baptize in the name of Jesus or other converted names of Jesus or the true name in Hebrew/pronounce in hebrew?
Jesus knows your heart. Sit back, relax and trust Him that He will never forsake you.
 
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Godsgirl83

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Ya know how we are referred to as sons and daughters (children) of God?
Well, think of it like this:
God as Father.....
we as children......

when children are learning to speak they start out babbling and mispronouncing words.
When calling their parents it often starts with a "mmm" or a "ddd" (they "aaa" comes later- mmmaaaa or dddaaaa) and when that's mastered it becomes "mama" "dada".....
but even though the child doesn't pronounce it "correctly" the parent still knows when their child is calling/talking to them and the parent still loves and responds to the child irregardless of how they say the name :D;)
 

watcher2013

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Wow ok you have been in the Philippines and in Ireland, so you already know what I said above is true, so what is the point? You think God is up in Heaven ignoring those who call on his name in their language? That this languages as he created them are a barrier so we must all learn Hebrew, to study the bible and worship God? Except that most of the new testament is written in Greek and the Name of Jesus in Greek in the Greek texts, and in Hebrew in the Hebrew texts, pronounced and spelled quite differently.
Jesus knows your heart. Sit back, relax and trust Him that He will never forsake you.
Ya know how we are referred to as sons and daughters (children) of God?
Well, think of it like this:
God as Father.....
we as children......

when children are learning to speak they start out babbling and mispronouncing words.
When calling their parents it often starts with a "mmm" or a "ddd" (they "aaa" comes later- mmmaaaa or dddaaaa) and when that's mastered it becomes "mama" "dada".....
but even though the child doesn't pronounce it "correctly" the parent still knows when their child is calling/talking to them and the parent still loves and responds to the child irregardless of how they say the name :D;)
The Lord warned us of false Christ....

Isn't the same? Believing in the false name?
 
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Eph 1:21 Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come.

Php 2:9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:
Php 2:10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
Php 2:11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

Jesus was given a name that is above all names not only in this world but in the world to come.

So that means that out of all the names that mankind has known and the names God revealed to us to identify Himself to us Jesus is the name that is above all them names.

Which the name Jesus gives us the highest benefit and blessings from God that we can ever receive for God's name reveals His character and blessings to us.

Jehovah represents physical deliverance and physical blessings, and Jesus represents spiritual deliverance and spiritual blessings.

Eph 4:6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

Some people think that the name of the Father is Jehovah and the name of the Son is Jesus.

The Father is above all, and Jesus' name is above all names not only in this world but in the world to come, so why would the Son have a name that is higher than the Father revealed to us when the name of God reveals His character and blessings towards people and Jesus was sent by the Father.

If the Father is above all He would have the greatest name above all names for it identifies His character which He is above all so why is Jesus' name the name above all names.

That is because the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost is Jesus, and that is why Jews, Gentiles, and Samaritans were all baptized in the name of Jesus.

And since Jesus is the only name we are saved by and Father, Son, and Holy Ghost all participate in our salvation then they would all have the name Jesus.

Isa 52:5 Now therefore, what have I here, saith the LORD, that my people is taken away for nought? they that rule over them make them to howl, saith the LORD; and my name continually every day is blasphemed.
Isa 52:6 Therefore my people shall know my name: therefore they shall know in that day that I am he that doth speak: behold, it is I.

The Father would reveal a new name to the Jews which would be His name and speak to them which God spoke unto us these last days by the Son, and Jesus told Philip that if He has seen Him he as seen the Father.

Pro 30:4 Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is his name, and what is his son's name, if thou canst tell?

The prophet Agur asks what is the Father's name and what is the Son's name if you can tell meaning they would both share the same name.

Joh 5:43 I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.

Jesus came in the Father's name which is Jesus.

The Father's name is Jesus.

Heb 1:4 Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.

The Son inherited the name of the Father.

The Son's name is Jesus.

Joh 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

The Holy Ghost comes in the name of Jesus.

Jesus is the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost, and Jews, Gentiles, and Samaritans were all baptized in the name of Jesus in the book of Acts for there is no other name we are saved by but the name of Jesus, and all we do in word and deed we do all in the name of Jesus and Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are titles not name, and it is name singular not plural.

I say this because some people do not acknowledge that the name of the Father is Jesus not giving Him glory in that aspect.

Some people also do not understand the let us make man in our image which is God and the man Christ Jesus.

For Adam was made in the image of God and in the New Testament Adam was made in the image of Christ.

The image of God is the image of Christ.

God had the plan to come in the future in flesh before He laid down the foundation of the world, and created Adam in the image that He would show up in the future an innocent nature in flesh.

Some people also do not understand Jesus being at the right hand which God's right hand represents power, wisdom, and salvation.

There is one God, and mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.

The Son must reign until His enemies are conquered and when they are conquered then the Son shall submit to the Father that God may be all in all.

The Bible says there is one throne in heaven and one who sits on that throne, which is the throne of God and the Lamb, God in the glorified body of the man Christ Jesus.

God exalted the man Christ Jesus to be at His right hand, exercise the throne of power for He is the mediator, until His enemies are conquered and when they are conquered then the Son will submit to the Father, stop being at the right hand that God may be all in all.

God is ruling through the man Christ Jesus for the sake of the saints, but God is still ruling.

The only person we will see in heaven is Jesus, and Jesus said if you have seen Him you have seen the Father.

There are a lot of misinterpretations of the Bible and it is the most misinterpreted book in the history of mankind for it's interpretation is not of the fleshy mind but of the Spirit, although some people can understand some things with the fleshy mind, but will get the things that matter for salvation wrong, and some other things wrong.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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The Lord warned us of false Christ....

Isn't the same? Believing in the false name?
It's not a false name nor a false Christ.
Christ is who he is as stated in John chapter 1. Word that is God, that became flesh and dwelt among us, did many good works including many miracles, and teaching. Who then died on the cross and did resurrect on the third day and ascended to the right hand of the Father, and will judge all the earth. By him our salvation is secured.
There is only one who did this. And in English his name is Jesus, in Greek Iēsous, in Hebrew יְהוֹשֻׁעַ.
Remembering that the new testament was mostly written in Greek and the Greek rendering used.
 

John146

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The Son of God was given a name above every name.
The angel said to Joseph what the name of the child shall be called, hence the name came from God.
Joseph and mary were Jewish...language Hebrew
the apostles obviously baptized in the name of our Lord in their language.
I understand the name is pronounce in hebrew as Yeshua correct me if I am wrong.

If your name is converted in other language it will be pronounce wrong and you yourself would not even turn your head if you are called in different language.


Should we request/baptize in the name of Jesus or other converted names of Jesus or the true name in Hebrew/pronounce in hebrew?
His name is above all others because of His testimony, who He is. The name Yeshua means nothing without His testimony.
 

watcher2013

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Eph 1:21 Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come.

Php 2:9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:
Php 2:10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
Php 2:11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

Jesus was given a name that is above all names not only in this world but in the world to come.

So that means that out of all the names that mankind has known and the names God revealed to us to identify Himself to us Jesus is the name that is above all them names.

Which the name Jesus gives us the highest benefit and blessings from God that we can ever receive for God's name reveals His character and blessings to us.

Jehovah represents physical deliverance and physical blessings, and Jesus represents spiritual deliverance and spiritual blessings.

Eph 4:6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

Some people think that the name of the Father is Jehovah and the name of the Son is Jesus.

The Father is above all, and Jesus' name is above all names not only in this world but in the world to come, so why would the Son have a name that is higher than the Father revealed to us when the name of God reveals His character and blessings towards people and Jesus was sent by the Father.

If the Father is above all He would have the greatest name above all names for it identifies His character which He is above all so why is Jesus' name the name above all names.

That is because the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost is Jesus, and that is why Jews, Gentiles, and Samaritans were all baptized in the name of Jesus.

And since Jesus is the only name we are saved by and Father, Son, and Holy Ghost all participate in our salvation then they would all have the name Jesus.

Isa 52:5 Now therefore, what have I here, saith the LORD, that my people is taken away for nought? they that rule over them make them to howl, saith the LORD; and my name continually every day is blasphemed.
Isa 52:6 Therefore my people shall know my name: therefore they shall know in that day that I am he that doth speak: behold, it is I.

The Father would reveal a new name to the Jews which would be His name and speak to them which God spoke unto us these last days by the Son, and Jesus told Philip that if He has seen Him he as seen the Father.

Pro 30:4 Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is his name, and what is his son's name, if thou canst tell?

The prophet Agur asks what is the Father's name and what is the Son's name if you can tell meaning they would both share the same name.

Joh 5:43 I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.

Jesus came in the Father's name which is Jesus.

The Father's name is Jesus.

Heb 1:4 Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.

The Son inherited the name of the Father.

The Son's name is Jesus.

Joh 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

The Holy Ghost comes in the name of Jesus.

Jesus is the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost, and Jews, Gentiles, and Samaritans were all baptized in the name of Jesus in the book of Acts for there is no other name we are saved by but the name of Jesus, and all we do in word and deed we do all in the name of Jesus and Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are titles not name, and it is name singular not plural.

I say this because some people do not acknowledge that the name of the Father is Jesus not giving Him glory in that aspect.

Some people also do not understand the let us make man in our image which is God and the man Christ Jesus.

For Adam was made in the image of God and in the New Testament Adam was made in the image of Christ.

The image of God is the image of Christ.

God had the plan to come in the future in flesh before He laid down the foundation of the world, and created Adam in the image that He would show up in the future an innocent nature in flesh.

Some people also do not understand Jesus being at the right hand which God's right hand represents power, wisdom, and salvation.

There is one God, and mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.

The Son must reign until His enemies are conquered and when they are conquered then the Son shall submit to the Father that God may be all in all.

The Bible says there is one throne in heaven and one who sits on that throne, which is the throne of God and the Lamb, God in the glorified body of the man Christ Jesus.

God exalted the man Christ Jesus to be at His right hand, exercise the throne of power for He is the mediator, until His enemies are conquered and when they are conquered then the Son will submit to the Father, stop being at the right hand that God may be all in all.

God is ruling through the man Christ Jesus for the sake of the saints, but God is still ruling.

The only person we will see in heaven is Jesus, and Jesus said if you have seen Him you have seen the Father.

There are a lot of misinterpretations of the Bible and it is the most misinterpreted book in the history of mankind for it's interpretation is not of the fleshy mind but of the Spirit, although some people can understand some things with the fleshy mind, but will get the things that matter for salvation wrong, and some other things wrong.
Rev 22:4 KJV And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads.

The apostle have seen the Son face.
In this verse, it signify that this will be the first time to see the face.
The Father is not the Son...but the Son do what he have seen the Father do ..so we see the Father to him
 

watcher2013

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It's not a false name nor a false Christ.
Christ is who he is as stated in John chapter 1. Word that is God, that became flesh and dwelt among us, did many good works including many miracles, and teaching. Who then died on the cross and did resurrect on the third day and ascended to the right hand of the Father, and will judge all the earth. By him our salvation is secured.
There is only one who did this. And in English his name is Jesus, in Greek Iēsous, in Hebrew יְהוֹשֻׁעַ.
Remembering that the new testament was mostly written in Greek and the Greek rendering used.
Can we use the name jes?
 
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Locoponydirtman

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Can we use the name jes?
That's a non sequitur. A translated name is still correct. The proof being the Greek portions of the new testament where the Greek rendering of the name of Jesus is used. Unless you are willing to throw out all the Greek texts, then you a destroying the the Canon of Scripture, and are no longer in the faith. But I have explained this 3 times now and you have yet to respond to the fact that in the Greek text they use the Greek rendering of the Lord's name, but rather you choose to use sarcastic fallacious nonlogic. I don't think you are interested in learning anything. I think you desire to impose your foolishness on others.
So I will end with this statement. In the Greek texts that the apostles wrote to the Greek Christians, they used the Greek translation of the name of the Lord, not the Hebrew name. Which means they translated the Lord's name into the language of the people that they were teaching.
 

TabinRivCA

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The Son of God was given a name above every name.
The angel said to Joseph what the name of the child shall be called, hence the name came from God.
Joseph and mary were Jewish...language Hebrew
the apostles obviously baptized in the name of our Lord in their language.
I understand the name is pronounce in hebrew as Yeshua correct me if I am wrong.

If your name is converted in other language it will be pronounce wrong and you yourself would not even turn your head if you are called in different language.


Should we request/baptize in the name of Jesus or other converted names of Jesus or the true name in Hebrew/pronounce in hebrew?
In Hebrew they don't use the letter J, but all through the NT the Son of God is called Jesus. For the billions of people who recognize 'Emmanuel' , God is with us, as named Jesus, I'm sure God can figure out who they are referring to.
It's not necessary to get worried about this issue, God bless.
 

watcher2013

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That's a non sequitur. A translated name is still correct. The proof being the Greek portions of the new testament where the Greek rendering of the name of Jesus is used. Unless you are willing to throw out all the Greek texts, then you a destroying the the Canon of Scripture, and are no longer in the faith. But I have explained this 3 times now and you have yet to respond to the fact that in the Greek text they use the Greek rendering of the Lord's name, but rather you choose to use sarcastic fallacious nonlogic. I don't think you are interested in learning anything. I think you desire to impose your foolishness on others.
So I will end with this statement. In the Greek texts that the apostles wrote to the Greek Christians, they used the Greek translation of the name of the Lord, not the Hebrew name. Which means they translated the Lord's name into the language of the people that they were teaching.
From wikipedia.
The name Jesus is derived from the Hebrew name Yeshua, which is based on the Semitic root y-š-ʕ (Hebrew: ישע‎), meaning "to deliver; to rescue."[3][4][5] Yeshua, and its longer form, Yehoshua, were both in common use by Jews during the Second Temple period and many Jewish religious figures bear the name, notably Jesus in the New Testament, and Joshua in the Hebrew Bible.[2][1]
There have been various proposals as to how the literal etymological meaning of the name should be translated, including Yahweh saves, (is) salvation, (is) a saving-cry, (is) a cry-for-saving, (is) a cry-for-help, (is) my help.[6][7][8][9][10]
This early biblical Hebrew name יְהוֹשֻׁעַ Yehoshuaʿ underwent a shortening into later biblical יֵשׁוּעַ Yeshua`, as found in the Hebrew text of verses Ezra 2:2, 2:6, 2:36, 2:40, 3:2, 3:8, 3:9, 3:10, 3:18, 4:3, 8:33; Nehemiah 3:19, 7:7, 7:11, 7:39, 7:43, 8:7, 8:17, 9:4, 9:5, 11:26, 12:1, 12:7, 12:8, 12:10, 12:24, 12:26; 1 Chronicles 24:11; and 2 Chronicles 31:15 – as well as in Biblical Aramaic at verse Ezra 5:2. These Bible verses refer to ten individuals (in Nehemiah 8:17, the name refers to Joshua son of Nun).
This historical change may have been due to a phonological shift whereby guttural phonemes weakened, including [h].[11] Usually, the traditional theophoric element Yahu יהו was shortened at the beginning of a name to יו Yo-, and at the end to יה -yah. In the contraction of Yehoshua` to Yeshua`, the vowel is instead fronted (perhaps due to the influence of the y in the triliteral root y-š-ʿ). During the post-biblical period the further shortened form Yeshu was adopted by Hebrew speaking Jews to refer to the Christian Jesus, however Yehoshua continued to be used for the other figures called Jesus.[12] However, both the Western and Eastern Syriac Christian traditions use the Aramaic name ܝܫܘܥ (in Hebrew script: ישוע) Yeshuʿ and Yishoʿ, respectively, including the ʿayin.[13]
In both Latin and Greek, the name is declined irregularly:
Latin Greek nominative JēsūsIēsūs (Iēsus)Ἰησοῦςaccusative JēsūmIēsūm (Iēsum)Ἰησοῦνdative JēsūIēsūἸησοῦgenitive vocative ablative

By the time the New Testament was written, the Septuagint had already transliterated ישוע Yeshua` into Koine Greek as closely as possible in the 3rd-century BCE, the result being Ἰησοῦς Iēsous. Since Greek had no equivalent to the Semitic letter ש shin [ʃ], it was replaced with a σ sigma , and a masculine singular ending [-s] was added in the nominative case, in order to allow the name to be inflected for case (nominative, accusative, etc.) in the grammar of the Greek language. The diphthongal [a] vowel of Masoretic Yehoshua` or Yeshua` would not have been present in Hebrew/Aramaic pronunciation during this period, and some scholars believe some dialects dropped the pharyngeal sound of the final letter ע `ayin [ʕ], which in any case had no counterpart in ancient Greek. The Greek writings of Philo of Alexandria[14] and Josephus frequently mention this name. It also occurs in the Greek New Testament at Acts 7:45 and Hebrews 4:8, referring to Joshua son of Nun.
From Greek, Ἰησοῦς Iēsous moved into Latin at least by the time of the Vetus Latina. The morphological jump this time was not as large as previous changes between language families. Ἰησοῦς Iēsous was transliterated to Latin IESVS, where it stood for many centuries. The Latin name has an irregular declension, with a genitive, dative, ablative, and vocative of Jesu, accusative of Jesum, and nominative of Jesus. Minuscule (lower case) letters were developed around 800 and some time later the U was invented to distinguish the vowel sound from the consonantal sound and the J to distinguish the consonant from I. Similarly, Greek minuscules were invented about the same time, prior to that the name was written in capital letters (ΙΗϹΟΥϹ) or abbreviated as (ΙΗϹ) with a line over the top, see also Christogram.
Modern English Jesus derives from Early Middle English Iesu (attested from the 12th century). The name participated in the Great Vowel Shift in late Middle English (15th century). The letter J was first distinguished from 'I' by the Frenchman Pierre Ramus in the 16th century, but did not become common in Modern English until the 17th century, so that early 17th century works such as the first edition of the King James Version of the Bible (1611) continued to print the name with an I.[15]
From the Latin, the English language takes the forms "Jesus" (from the nominative form), and "Jesu" (from the vocative and oblique forms). "Jesus" is the predominantly used form, while "Jesu" lingers in some more archaic texts.
 
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The Son of God was given a name above every name.
The angel said to Joseph what the name of the child shall be called, hence the name came from God.
Joseph and mary were Jewish...language Hebrew
the apostles obviously baptized in the name of our Lord in their language.
I understand the name is pronounce in hebrew as Yeshua correct me if I am wrong.

If your name is converted in other language it will be pronounce wrong and you yourself would not even turn your head if you are called in different language.


Should we request/baptize in the name of Jesus or other converted names of Jesus or the true name in Hebrew/pronounce in hebrew?
Well scripture has many names written, His disciples called Him Rabbi, Yes His name is a Hebrew name and a name in other languages as well language isn’t a barrier, Jesus isn’t going force people to understand His Hebrew name only rather it is in English or Italian, he name in another language isn’t false it’s just in a another language shouldn't assume another language is going to have the same letters or same spelling that isn’t how different language work, what is Jesus in Chinese or Japanese is it still His name? By excluding other people’s language is excluding them because they speak another language and saying their language is not valid that isn’t proper
 
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By the time the New Testament was written, the Septuagint had already transliterated ישוע Yeshua` into Koine Greek as closely as possible in the 3rd-century BCE, the result being Ἰησοῦς Iēsous. Since Greek had no equivalent to the Semitic letter ש shin [ʃ], it was replaced with a σ sigma , and a masculine singular ending [-s] was added in the nominative case, in order to allow the name to be inflected for case (nominative, accusative, etc.)

Even the translation to greek: it was trying to translate the phonetic to letters.

Now that we can pronounce the vowels and the consonant...
If you are going to translate the original to english...it would sound like yeshua.
Yes I know but we can’t eliminate other people’s language for reasons like what you posted (Since Greek had no equivalent to the Semitic letter ש shin [ʃ], it was replaced with a σ sigma)

what is correct if a language has no equivalent to another language, I looked up the (Jes) you asked about I haven’t found that to be in any known language but a couple of languages translate the name as (Isa) which is valid because it’s their language and how the name is translated