IT'S 1948! IT'S A MIRACLE!

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Locoponydirtman

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It's a question. Is there another coming besides the one spoken of in Thessalonians, and if there is is it before that one or after that one?
 

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It's a question. Is there another coming besides the one spoken of in Thessalonians, and if there is is it before that one or after that one?
I'd say this is accurate , I've heard other say that we are taken back to heaven but I tend to disagree ..
14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
 

bojack

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It's a question. Is there another coming besides the one spoken of in Thessalonians, and if there is is it before that one or after that one?
Who is he who restrains what in this verse ?
6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.

8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
 
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Locoponydirtman

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Who is he who restrains what in this verse ?
6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.

8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
It's my thought that it is the Holy Spirit who dwells in the Christians, and in the Church, and in the word of God.
 

bojack

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It's my thought that it is the Holy Spirit who dwells in the Christians, and in the Church, and in the word of God.
Could it be The US and whatever countries are left who are ''born again'' Christians will eventually be taken out of the way to be consumed into the beast system Mystery Babylon ? 4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Yes it is about salvation, because its about knowing the Lord. And being grafted into their own olive tree again is on an individual level. No unbeliever will have part in it.
No it’s not
it is repenting if their sin and calling out to god and admitting they are punished for their sins. Their fathers sins. And they are rightfully judged

It’s obvious you did jot read lev 26
 
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eternally-gratefull

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I'm not puffing myself up against anyone, or in favor of them. God loves all people, but all people will not be saved. The fact that people need to be grafted into something means they're not part of it. You're distorting Paul's teaching.
Yep he does
but Paul still said they are hated concerning the gospel yet beloved concerning the promises (vs 28)
he spoke of them those who will be saved when the time of the gentile is done. Those who are blinded in part
you should be praising God for their repentance not attacking them for what they are doing now and saying God is done
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Your topic was about the marriage of Christ.
Nope my topic was about the Jews after they repent being restored
bear false witness against me again dude!
 
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eternally-gratefull

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I read just fine. If Christ isn't doing these things through you, then you don't know him very well. If you don't believe God can strike this earth anytime he pleases, youdont know him very well. If you think the peace of Jesus will ever belong to the ungodly, you don't know the Lord very well. Unbelievers aren't part of God's holy mountain,

ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels Heb.12:22

They shall not hurt nor destroy in all My holy mountain,
so all those things are happening today?

You need to get out Moreno the world is evil Satan is deceiving and if Jesus is ruling the nations with a rod of iron they are basically giving him the finger because they are doing what they want not what God desires
 
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Locoponydirtman

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Could it be The US and whatever countries are left who are ''born again'' Christians will eventually be taken out of the way to be consumed into the beast system Mystery Babylon ? 4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?
I don't think so. However I do have my doubts about the longevity of the United States. The type of division that we have now will only increase and likely end in civil war and an actual split if not total destruction of this country.
 

bojack

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I don't think so. However I do have my doubts about the longevity of the United States. The type of division that we have now will only increase and likely end in civil war and an actual split if not total destruction of this country.
For the first time in history Obama had not voted in Israels favor but abstained in the UN .. President Trump come out of nowhere to win the Presidency upsetting 85% establishment favorite Hilary Clinton .. One of the first things Trump did was change the US vote and to favor Israel .. America was leaning over the ledge to becoming part of the New World Order and the luciferian world .. You need to wake up and look around .. It's all about Israel and the writing is on the wall ..
 

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Praise GOD :) not here to discuss with some their personally view of Gods word. Not my word to tell anyone what God is really saying. :)

Things were written about Israel when they were not a nation. And to read they would become a nation in a day.. and that happened! God (in that I also mean Christ and the Holy Spirit) are not man. Does not think like act like nor has He ever changed. I don't see Israel living for God and the % of those that are born again are few yet growing ever day praise GOD! I can see how some think the Church is Israel....but something I can't get passed is. Well with God what I have learned is He is true to His word.

Meaning if its written He will do it. That has not will not ever change. And there are things GOD promised Israel. We need to remember the story that shows GODS love for her. Where she was selling her self and He waited in line with others and bought her back. Israel is blooming because of God. ALL not some but ALL good things come from God. And the world is still blessed because of Israel.

No one can look at the vine and tell what was grafted in vs org of the vine. As He told me "I am the vine you are the branches". Its His creation.. its His Children. He leaves the 99 to get the one. This God came to His own 1st. It was has always been to save this world. So to be here during this time knowing those that came died before us longed to be here. We are so blessed. It was so WOW to see the Jewish people come from all over the world back to the land He gave them.

Again.. what GOD promised. Matters not what we say or think. He is going to keep His word. He made promises to Israel. I look up.. ready every moment. Praying for Israel and ever other nation. For GOD SO loved the world.
 

bojack

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Praise GOD :) not here to discuss with some their personally view of Gods word. Not my word to tell anyone what God is really saying. :)

Things were written about Israel when they were not a nation. And to read they would become a nation in a day.. and that happened! God (in that I also mean Christ and the Holy Spirit) are not man. Does not think like act like nor has He ever changed. I don't see Israel living for God and the % of those that are born again are few yet growing ever day praise GOD! I can see how some think the Church is Israel....but something I can't get passed is. Well with God what I have learned is He is true to His word.

Meaning if its written He will do it. That has not will not ever change. And there are things GOD promised Israel. We need to remember the story that shows GODS love for her. Where she was selling her self and He waited in line with others and bought her back. Israel is blooming because of God. ALL not some but ALL good things come from God. And the world is still blessed because of Israel.

No one can look at the vine and tell what was grafted in vs org of the vine. As He told me "I am the vine you are the branches". Its His creation.. its His Children. He leaves the 99 to get the one. This God came to His own 1st. It was has always been to save this world. So to be here during this time knowing those that came died before us longed to be here. We are so blessed. It was so WOW to see the Jewish people come from all over the world back to the land He gave them.

Again.. what GOD promised. Matters not what we say or think. He is going to keep His word. He made promises to Israel. I look up.. ready every moment. Praying for Israel and ever other nation. For GOD SO loved the world.
9 Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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For the first time in history Obama had not voted in Israels favor but abstained in the UN .. President Trump come out of nowhere to win the Presidency upsetting 85% establishment favorite Hilary Clinton .. One of the first things Trump did was change the US vote and to favor Israel .. America was leaning over the ledge to becoming part of the New World Order and the luciferian world .. You need to wake up and look around .. It's all about Israel and the writing is on the wall ..
Wake up and look around and see exactly what Jesus said would happen...ok, why should that concern me? I trust Him, not me, not you, not politicians, or idolatrous concepts of Govco, and geography. Jesus said it ain't getting better until he comes again, then it only gets better for those who believe, but much worse for those that don't.
The United States is also the valley of the shadow of death, just like everywhere else that sin reeks havock.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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Back to 1948. You realize that the French country side was laid waste yet they still produced wine and cheese. I think that's awesome, that even in the worst times of modern history God provided nice things.

Come on now days people can't even be offended with out breaking down to incapacity.
 

bojack

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Wake up and look around and see exactly what Jesus said would happen...ok, why should that concern me? I trust Him, not me, not you, not politicians, or idolatrous concepts of Govco, and geography. Jesus said it ain't getting better until he comes again, then it only gets better for those who believe, but much worse for those that don't.
The United States is also the valley of the shadow of death, just like everywhere else that sin reeks havock.
It obviously doesn't .. Some folks keep watch, some don't
 

bojack

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Back to 1948. You realize that the French country side was laid waste yet they still produced wine and cheese. I think that's awesome, that even in the worst times of modern history God provided nice things.

Come on now days people can't even be offended with out breaking down to incapacity.
Cheese and Wine .. 1948 , a very good year ..
 

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so all those things are happening today?

You need to get out Moreno the world is evil Satan is deceiving and if Jesus is ruling the nations with a rod of iron they are basically giving him the finger because they are doing what they want not what God desires
No, I don't need to associate with worldly people more. I don't need to see the way they see. What I need to do is believe the gospel. Trusting Jesus, he has shown me that God has always reigned over this world, even though people give him tbe finger and satan has always been on a leash. That's what the revelation of Jesus Christ shows me.