Oneness or trinity, Is Jesus God or man?

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kaylagrl

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The Father is not the Son...
The Son is express image of the Invisible God the Father
Jesus is God, or He is a fraud. He accepted worship, only God would do that, He healed, only God can do that. When asked what He should be called He said "I AM" only God said that. So Jesus is either God or a fraud. Period,end of story.
 

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The Epistle to the Ephesians chapter 4
30 And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption.

The Book of Genesis chapter 1:2And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
It shows the Hol
Jesus is God, or He is a fraud. He accepted worship, only God would do that, He healed, only God can do that. When asked what He should be called He said "I AM" only God said that. So Jesus is either God or a fraud. Period,end of story.
GOD IS INVISIBLE
GOD IS IMMORTAL
 

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Jesus is God, your comment doesn't change that. Jesus is immortal, He ROSE !!
He died.but there is someone..the only one who has immortality
1Ti 6:13-16 KJV 13 I give thee charge in the sight of God, who quickeneth all things, and before Christ Jesus, who before Pontius Pilate witnessed a good confession; 14 That thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukeable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ: 15 Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords; 16 Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.
 
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It isn't anti-trinitarian. It is pro-scripture.
As you are blind to God telling us/you there is only one?
It's because you are blind to the trinity in scripture that you are not trinitarian.
 

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i realized that it isn't necessarily a long post to write at all -- God was manifest in the flesh; all His fullness dwelt bodily in the man Jesus, the Christ. an human body has a brain.

the mind is not the brain. a mind is not a physical property. consciousness is not a physical property. the brain & heart are mechanisms through which the person interfaces with the rest of the body it dwells in.

as i see it this fact answers all the implicit objections the passages you brought up are used to support.
I can't really see how you've answered my question, what did the Lord Jesus empty Himself of, the Greek for "made himself of no reputation" is "heautón ekénoosen" in Phil 2v7, which literally means "emptied Himself," I'm simply asking what is your understanding of what He emptied Himself of when He became flesh?

Thanks...
 

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For those interested, you can find a bit of a study on Oneness/Jesus Only error Here
 

watcher2013

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scripture is God-breathed
(2 Timothy 3:16)
men moved by the Holy Spirit spoke from God
(2 Peter 1:21)
Nothing it says that the holy spirit is God...
Angels spoke from God...doesn't make angels God.
scripture - is God breathed. does not make scripture God...

What I am trying to say, there is no direct scriptural reference that the Holy ghost is God...There's only one true God the Father... thats a biblical fact
even Yeshua said after resurrection...I go to the Father..your Father..My God, your God...What is clear from the scriptures all through out is this..
God is the Father..
Yeshua -is a man, the man who God made, Christ and Lord, Prince and saviour..the son of God.
The Holy spirit is from God...the spirit of truth, the comforter
 
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Actually, you've not understood a word I've said.
Jesus was God.
This is the perfect example of why Denominationalism fractures the truth of God in Christ. There are Denominations that teach Jesus was just a man, who was favored by God and with His blessing the man Jesus performed miracles. Anbaptists believe this. As do Jehovah Witness.

Jesus was God. That's it.
The Son of man (No power) and the Son of God (The power) must be rightfully divided if we desire to find the truth revealed.

Job 9 informs us. Eternal God is "not a man as us" and neither is there any flesh mediator on earth to stand between the father the eternal not seen and us seen .Even Jesus as the Son of man refused to stand in the Holy unseen place as a abomination of desolation.
When called Good Master he refused to accept that honor but rather said in respect to the father. One is Good God. Call no man daysman on earth . One is our teaching master in heaven one is our father id heaven Call no man either Master or Father of earth .

Matthew 19:15-17 (KJV) And he laid his hands on them, and departed thence. And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

Jesus as the Son of God after the manner of melchedik is eternal God as savior is reckoned without beginning of days or end of Spirit life.

Do DNA needed to keep a genealogy record. It ended at the birth of Christ our high priest continually .Therefore giving us clear warning .that even though some did know Christ after what the eyes see needed to give the one time promised outward demonstration of the invisible work of the father . Some did know him that way. that window of 33 year opportunity closed when he vanished out of sight. But no more forever more, as if God was a man as us to begin with

Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually. Hebrew 7:3


2 Corinthians 5:16 Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more.
 
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The word that was God, that became flesh.
The spiritual words became flesh as a labor of our Faithful Creators work of faith, or labor of His Love .

Flesh did not become flesh. (Paganism walk by sight)

God has no beginning of day or end of Spirit life. He is not a man as us and neither could he be. God in us as Emanuel, he is the treasure we do have in theses bodies of dearth, yes. We should believe Him without murmuring ..

At 71 stuck on 12 still trying to put away childish things. learning how to say : yes dear. In need of prayer.

For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure. Do all things without murmurings and disputings: Philipians 2:13
 
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Locoponydirtman

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In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being. And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us, and we saw His glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth.
John 1:1‭, ‬3‭, ‬14 NASB
https://bible.com/bible/100/jhn.1.1-14.NASB
 
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Locoponydirtman

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The spiritual words became flesh as a labor of our Faithful Creators work of faith, or labor of His Love .

Flesh did not become flesh. (Paganism walk by sight)

God has no beginning of day or end of Spirit life. He is not a man as us and neither could he be. God in us as Emanuel, he is the treasure we do have in theses bodies of dearth, yes. We should believe Him without murmuring ..

At 71 stuck on 12 still trying to put away childish things. learning how to say : yes dear. In need of prayer.

For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure. Do all things without murmurings and disputings: Philipians 2:13
Are you denying the Divinity of Jesus?
 

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Genesis 1:26-28 King James Version (KJV)
26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness:
 

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Psalm 110 King James Version (KJV)
110 The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.
 

1ofthem

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He is the Son of God...

Luke 20
41 And he said unto them, How say they that Christ is David's son?

42 And David himself saith in the book of Psalms, The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand,

43 Till I make thine enemies thy footstool.

44 David therefore calleth him Lord, how is he then his son?