The Doctrinal Belief of a Pre-Tribulation Resurrection. Is not spoken of in the Word of God. It was created by a sick and deranged woman

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But my Bible says Satan is to be released after teh 1,000 years so what will he be doing if all the people have flitted off to heaven?
During the 1,000 year reign of Christ the average lifespan will be 100 years. Currently is it around 80 years. It is possible for people to live to be 120 years of age. "So the LORD said, “My Spirit will not contend with man forever, for he is mortal; his days shall be 120 years.” (Genesis 6:3)

"Never again will there be in it an infant who lives but a few days, or an old man who does not live out his years; the one who dies at a hundred will be thought a mere child; the one who fails to reach a hundred will be considered accursed." (Isaiah 65:20)
 
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You have fallen for Satan's lies
People are usually guilty of what they accuse others of. So be very careful when you accuse people because you are telling on yourself.

"Psychological projection is a defence mechanism in which the human ego defends itself against unconscious impulses or qualities by denying their existence in themselves while attributing them to others." (Wiki)
 
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People are usually guilty of what they accuse others of. So be very careful when you accuse people because you are telling on yourself.

"Psychological projection is a defence mechanism in which the human ego defends itself against unconscious impulses or qualities by denying their existence in themselves while attributing them to others." (Wiki)
Quoting Wiki against the Bible? Your protest is Psychological projection - a defence mechanism in which the human ego defends itself against unconscious impulses or qualities by denying their existence in themselves while attributing them to others.= especially when your protest shows you call GOD a liar and the Bibel inaccurate"
Your priorities is a little muddled.
 
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During the 1,000 year reign of Christ the average lifespan will be 100 years. Currently is it around 80 years. It is possible for people to live to be 120 years of age. "So the LORD said, “My Spirit will not contend with man forever, for he is mortal; his days shall be 120 years.” (Genesis 6:3)

"Never again will there be in it an infant who lives but a few days, or an old man who does not live out his years; the one who dies at a hundred will be thought a mere child; the one who fails to reach a hundred will be considered accursed." (Isaiah 65:20)
You really do need to go back to kindergarten and start learning some comprehension!
The verse you quote does not say the lifespan will be 100 years but says some will not live that long while others having been raised will not see a second death.
You have fallen into Satan's trap of taking verses out of context: IESEGESIS.
I having gifts of Holy Spirit use EXEGESIS and can point you to following verses:
20 There shall be no more thence an infant of days, nor an old man that hath not filled his days: for the child shall die an hundred years old; but the sinner being an hundred years old shall be accursed.
22 They shall not build, and another inhabit; they shall not plant, and another eat: for as the days of a tree are the days of my people, and mine elect shall long enjoy the work of their hands.

Here in UK we have trees 1,000 years old and in USA a bristlecone pine seems to have survived The Flood 4,350 years ago!. Even teh fig tree Jesus cursed for barrenness could have lived 200 years. UK's moist and mild climate is probably as close to that of Eden as anywhere else on Earth which ensures trees grow on to great ages during which time they provide homes and food for the myriads of creatures GOD created on Days 5 and 6 of Creation 6,000 years ago.
https://www.woodlandtrust.org.uk/blog/2018/06/the-oldest-tree-in-the-uk-how-long-do-trees-live/
 
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You really do need to go back to kindergarten
I am back in kindergarten learning the meaning of the hebrew letters. Something I should have been taught in kindergarten.

 
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I am back in kindergarten learning the meaning of the hebrew letters. Something I should have been taught in kindergarten.

Hebrews burn meat to their g-d Moloch while YAHWEH the GOD of Israel says He hates the stink of burning meat.
You might translate that into Yiddish.
 

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Israel and Judah are two separate things.
Israel are the 10 Lost Tribes that now are called Christians because we believe Jesus is the Son of GOD.
Judah are the FalseJew-Canaanite-Muslims of Jerusalem who hate Jesus, call GOD a liar, worship Moloch and the sun and are practically identical to Muslims. And all Judah is doomed to destruction as written in Zephaniah 1. Jerusalem is called Sodom and Egypt at Revelation 8.
I've no idea where you got the 144,000 to be evangelists from as they will actually be set as stewards to guide the Rapturees during the millennium.
I've no idea where you got the 144,000 to be evangelists from as they will actually be set as stewards to guide the Rapturees during the millennium
I think I told you that it was just my opinion. But I do know that you haven't got a clue of what you are talking about.

While historians have referred to the 10 tribes of Israel that were taken captive by the Assyrians in 722 B.C. as the “Lost Tribes of Israel,” these people were not lost to God. Through the prophets, God continued to send messages assuring them that He had not forgotten them. Following the destruction of the ancient nation of Israel, God said, “For surely I will command, and will sift the house of Israel among all nations, as grain is sifted in a sieve; yet not the smallest grain shall fall to the ground” (Amos 9:9).

During the first century after Christ, writers of the New Testament seemed to know of the existence of all 12 tribes of Israel. Appearing before King Agrippa, Paul spoke of “our twelve tribes, earnestly serving God night and day” (Acts 26:7). James addressed his letter to “the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad” (James 1:1).

Through the sifting process God had foretold through Amos, many of the ancient Israelites migrated to northwest Europe and subsequently became prominent nations in the world today.

The future for these so called “Lost Tribes of Israel” is bright. Speaking of these people, God said: “‘Behold, the days are coming … I will bring back the captives of My people Israel; they shall build the waste cities and inhabit them; they shall plant vineyards and drink wine from them; they shall also make gardens and eat fruit from them. I will plant them in their land, and no longer shall they be pulled up from the land I have given them,’ says the LORD your God” (Amos 9:13-15).


Amos 9:14-15
- And I will bring again the captivity of my people of Israel, and they shall build the waste cities, and inhabit [them]; and they shall plant vineyards, and drink the wine thereof; they shall also make gardens, and eat the fruit of them. (Read More...)

Luke 21:32 - Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled.

Isaiah 43:5-6 - Fear not: for I [am] with thee: I will bring thy seed from the east, and gather thee from the west;
Isa 43:6 I will say to the north, Give up; and to the south, Keep not back: bring my sons from far, and my daughters from the ends of the earth;

Isaiah 11:12 - And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.
Ezekiel 37:12 - Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel.
Deuteronomy 30:3 - That then the LORD thy God will turn thy captivity, and have compassion upon thee, and will return and gather thee from all the nations, whither the LORD thy God hath scattered thee.
Isaiah 66:8 - Who hath heard such a thing? who hath seen such things? Shall the earth be made to bring forth in one day? [or] shall a nation be born at once? for as soon as Zion travailed, she brought forth her children.
Please notice that in Amos 9:14-15 the verses are talking about "I will bring again the captivity of my people of Israel" . The word Israel is talking about all ten tribes.
In Isaiah 43:5-6 God calls his people from all over the globe and the rest of the above verses speak of calling "all Isreal" not just two tribes becoming a nation again.
Not only that but, DNA science has found that the Levites of old can be genitcally identified to be living in Isreal and throughout the world even today. IE They have their very own genetic sequence separate from the rest of the world and the same goes for all of the twelve tribe of Isreal.


NEW YORK, N.Y., and HAIFA, Israel, July 9, 1998 -- The finding last year of genetic links among Jewish men thought to be descendants of the Biblical high priest Aaron was greeted with tremendous interest and clamoring for more information. A team of British and Israeli scientists have now found additional information that links the priestly cast, the Cohanim, which includes men with last names that are variations on "Cohen."
Using a combination of molecular genetics and mathematical analysis, the scientists arrived an an estimated date for the most recent common ancestor of contemporary Cohanim. According to this analysis, the common ancestor lived between the Exodus (approx. 1000 B.C.E) and the destruction of the first Temple (586 B.C.E.), consistent with the biblical account. Similar results were obtained based on analysis of either Sephardi or Ashkenzi communities, confirming the ancestral link of the two communities which had been separated for more than 500 years.
The findings received an added boost when the researchers discovered that by contrast, the Y chromosome of many contemporary Levites, descended from the the tribe of Levi of which Moses was a member, display distinct sets of genetic markers, suggesting a heterogeneous pattern of descent which does not reflect a single pattern of direct paterilineal lineage.

The findings are based on the analysis of genetic markers in the DNA of Y-chromosomes of Jewish male priests from different countries of origin in comparison with their Jewish male Levite and lay counterparts.

The Y-chromosome is uniquely useful in this analysis because the Y-chromosome of any individual can be traced back even over many generations to only one male ancestor. This is not the case for other chromosomes, each of which carries representation from many different ancestors on both the maternal and paternal lineages. Accordingly, since the Jewish priesthood designation is transmitted from father to son, the DNA of the founding ancestor is reflected in the Y-chromosome markers of modern-day Jewish priests.

To date the original high priest, the research team used a formula based on a commonly accepted mutation rate. This formula yieded some 106 generations for both Ashkenazi and Sephardi Jews, or between 2,650 and 3,180 years, depending on whether a generation is counted as 25 or 30 years.

Since biblical tradition dates the establishment of the Jewish priesthood to roughly 3,000 years ago, it may be possible to utilize analysis of the Y-chromosome DNA of modern-day Jewish priests to deduce rates and mechanisms of DNA mutation and Y chromosome evolution.
Looks like the lost ten tribes of Isreal are only lost to God in your mind only. Because the Word of God and science conterdict what you are preaching.
 
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The Jews of Jerusalem are doomed to destruction as written at Zephaniah 1:4.
They had a barbecue on 10 December 2018 to burn meat and blow horns to their g-d Moloch.
 

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The same thing is true regarding the modern expression of "speaking in tongues". It came from some nutty young woman named Agnes Osman.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agnes_Ozman

Charismatics are just full of nuttiness...and people have vain imaginations that are conjuring up things all the time. I believe it takes years to work this out of the lives of some true believers, by the way. Unsaved man's mind is full of vanity, pride, and self-exaltation, and claiming some spiritual gift or office is a manifestation of this. Some individuals naturally gravitate toward thinking that God speaks to them more closely than others, and they hear from God much better than others.
 
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I've no idea where you got the 144,000 to be evangelists from as they will actually be set as stewards to guide the Rapturees during the millennium
I think I told you that it was just my opinion. But I do know that you haven't got a clue of what you are talking about.

While historians have referred to the 10 tribes of Israel that were taken captive by the Assyrians in 722 B.C. as the “Lost Tribes of Israel,” these people were not lost to God. Through the prophets, God continued to send messages assuring them that He had not forgotten them. Following the destruction of the ancient nation of Israel, God said, “For surely I will command, and will sift the house of Israel among all nations, as grain is sifted in a sieve; yet not the smallest grain shall fall to the ground” (Amos 9:9).

During the first century after Christ, writers of the New Testament seemed to know of the existence of all 12 tribes of Israel. Appearing before King Agrippa, Paul spoke of “our twelve tribes, earnestly serving God night and day” (Acts 26:7). James addressed his letter to “the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad” (James 1:1).

Looks like the lost ten tribes of Isreal are only lost to God in your mind only. Because the Word of God and science conterdict what you are preaching.
It was Herod the Jew that killed James for preaching the Gospel to the 12 tribes spread abroad.
As OT clearly showed Jesus was the Messiah the only conclusion can be that the real Israel is dispersed across Britain and USA and teh Judahites fo Jerusalem wil be destroyed unless they realise their errors in the last days.
You might go ask all those Cohens if they accept Jesus or still worship Moloch?
If they deny Jesus they are not true Israelites and face a third holocaust.
 
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The same thing is true regarding the modern expression of "speaking in tongues". It came from some nutty young woman named Agnes Osman.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agnes_Ozman

Charismatics are just full of nuttiness...and people have vain imaginations that are conjuring up things all the time.
You forget that GOD does promise to give what is asked for.
While I've heard speaking in tongues in English churches it may be that such speaking would be useful in foreign countries.
 
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I am back in kindergarten learning the meaning of the hebrew letters. Something I should have been taught in kindergarten.

Oh my! That video about Hebrew letters! The craziness of the False Jews! GOD looked into the Torah and created the world!
Yes, the Jews are pagans who invented a new idol they disguise as g-d which we Chrsitians know is actually the same Baal the Jews of Ezekiel worshipped when they weren't in the windowless room with their graven images of creeping things.
No wonder they worship Moloch by burning of their infants in brass holocausts! It says to do that in their Talmud!
And Jews wonder why they have been and continue to be persecuted until Jesus returns to slaughter most of them.
 

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If you are using the postrib model ,then Noah works against you.
Like most postribs you leave out "before the flood"
Show me any postrib rapture adherent that does not leave that out.
Also,your postrib rapture model would need Noah caught up AFTER the flood.
There is nothing post flood (postrib) resembling a postrib rapture.

Lot is used by Jesus also depicting the departure.

So you have 2 PRETRIB dynamics.
Zero postrib.
Postrib rapture is not only unscriptural,but poorly thought out.
That is why you guys should test fit a model b4 taking an unplausable position
Why Noah need cought up after the foot?

The flloot is not tribulation
The floot is second coming.

So rapture after tribulation not after second coming.
 
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Quoting Wiki against the Bible?
New Living Translation "For you will be treated as you treat others. The standard you use in judging is the standard by which you will be judged." (Matthew 7:2) "For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again." (KJV)
 
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During the 1,000 year reign of Christ the average lifespan will be 100 years. Currently is it around 80 years. It is possible for people to live to be 120 years of age. "So the LORD said, “My Spirit will not contend with man forever, for he is mortal; his days shall be 120 years.” (Genesis 6:3)

"Never again will there be in it an infant who lives but a few days, or an old man who does not live out his years; the one who dies at a hundred will be thought a mere child; the one who fails to reach a hundred will be considered accursed." (Isaiah 65:20)

The parable found in Isaiah 65:20 must be interpreted accordingly. When we receive our new incorruptible bodies as new creatures they will not age. The letter of the law death has been destroyed .Never to rise and condemn through corruption(dying) another whole creation. On the last day there will be no remnant of the old .Corruption, the temporal does not inherit the incorruptible, eternal.

The thousand years represents a unknown .We walk by faith a unknown. No reason to literalize the signified tongue of the gospel .
 

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You forget that GOD does promise to give what is asked for.
While I've heard speaking in tongues in English churches it may be that such speaking would be useful in foreign countries.
Yes, if that is the case..

However most people who believe in "tongues" think it is babbling in gibberish. I would agree with the left side, but disagree with the right side. tongues.jpg
 
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You forget that GOD does promise to give what is asked for.
While I've heard speaking in tongues in English churches it may be that such speaking would be useful in foreign countries.
How would you know if a person is speaking in what is called tongues today?
 
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In the postrib rapture model the dead in christ as well as the living NEVER SEE HEAVEN
Lots of people have seen Heaven. I have had dreams and visions of Heaven.
 
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How would you know if a person is speaking in what is called tongues today?
"For this reason the one who speaks in a tongue should pray that they may interpret what they say." (1cor14:3) We should pray for the gift of interpretation, then we will know what people are saying. They maybe saying: God forgive me, I am a miserable sinner. Wash and cleanse me in the Blood of Jesus so I can be pure before you.