Genesis 3:15 and what really happened in the garden of Eden

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AmanII

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Gregoryp said:
being naked means totally pure and holy, blemish free from sin, anger etc and nothing shameful about the naked body. The God I know doesn't create things that are supposed to be covered and hide. When Adam and Eve sinned, they were no longer holy or blemish free, so they covered themselves. God in his mercy gave them animal pelts for extra protection, wearing fig leaves wouldn't cut it. This is also signifies that they were no longer holy and perfect. Once Jesus died on the cross for our sins, we are again Justified and some Sanctified. Nudity is no longer shameful thanks to Jesus. Read scripture to see how may prophets and King David etc all went around naked. Be careful of worldly conditioning and traditions, it tends to come back and bite you real hard. Oh, and there is no Mother Mary, thats catholicism and there detestable religion, based on manmade principals, paganism and small amounts of scripture. Judge a tree by its fruit.
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Thank you for your reply. There's no Blessed you say huh. Better have a look at Saint Luke 1: 26-38.
I happen to be an ethnic Roman Catholic.
 
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EleventhHour

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AmanII said:
Fine. Glad you directed me with that.
God said be fruitful and multiply. Fruitful means acceptable to God and worthy of His table as our offering to Him.
When Eve went to the lineage or tree of the Carnal knowledge of good and evil she began to discover her
sensuousness. Some entity was leading her on. We don't like to use the word but it's called masturbation.As an innocent man
if you've ever gone to a go go bar for the first time you'll know immediately what Adam was confronted with. He immediately became aware of his virility spying his mate. She then gave the fruit to her husband meaning herself and the two became one and Cain was conceived. Only problem this offering or act was unworthy before God and God spoke for the very first time.

What Eve committed wasn't nearly as bad as what Adam committed. The carnal act took place outside the matrimonial boundary
of God. God was everywhere in the garden except at that location. She had caused God to curse all subsequent women from that point on. All except the Woman that will crush the Serpent's head. The Holy Mother of God the Blessed Virgin Maria.
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All that out of one verse!
You must have the extra expanded edition.:rolleyes:
 
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John146

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AmanII said:
Fine. Glad you directed me with that.
God said be fruitful and multiply. Fruitful means acceptable to God and worthy of His table as our offering to Him.
When Eve went to the lineage or tree of the Carnal knowledge of good and evil she began to discover her
sensuousness. Some entity was leading her on. We don't like to use the word but it's called masturbation.As an innocent man
if you've ever gone to a go go bar for the first time you'll know immediately what Adam was confronted with. He immediately became aware of his virility spying his mate. She then gave the fruit to her husband meaning herself and the two became one and Cain was conceived. Only problem this offering or act was unworthy before God and God spoke for the very first time.

What Eve committed wasn't nearly as bad as what Adam committed. The carnal act took place outside the matrimonial boundary
of God. God was everywhere in the garden except at that location. She had caused God to curse all subsequent women from that point on. All except the Woman that will crush the Serpent's head. The Holy Mother of God the Blessed Virgin Maria.
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Actually, the two became one before Eve was deceived by the serpent. And btw, the sexual act is marriage, two becoming one.

The Holy Mother of God Virgin Maria????????😳
 
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AmanII said:
Thank you for your reply. There's no Blessed you say huh. Better have a look at Saint Luke 1: 26-38.
I happen to be an ethnic Roman Catholic.
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alright, let me rephrase , she is not to be worshipped and prayed to. She was a vessel doing Gods work. end of story.
 
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EleventhHour

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Gregoryp said:
being naked means totally pure and holy, blemish free from sin, anger etc and nothing shameful about the naked body. The God I know doesn't create things that are supposed to be covered and hide. When Adam and Eve sinned, they were no longer holy or blemish free, so they covered themselves. God in his mercy gave them animal pelts for extra protection, wearing fig leaves wouldn't cut it. This is also signifies that they were no longer holy and perfect. Once Jesus died on the cross for our sins, we are again Justified and some Sanctified. Nudity is no longer shameful thanks to Jesus. Read scripture to see how may prophets and King David etc all went around naked. Be careful of worldly conditioning and traditions, it tends to come back and bite you real hard. Oh, and there is no Mother Mary, thats catholicism and there detestable religion, based on manmade principals, paganism and small amounts of scripture. Judge a tree by its fruit.
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Do you go out in public naked....just curious?
 
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AmanII

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John146 said:
Actually, the two became one before Eve was deceived by the serpent. And btw, the sexual act is marriage, two becoming one.

The Holy Mother of God Virgin Maria????????😳
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No...she gave the fruit to her husband and he partaketh of.
 
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AmanII said:
Thank you for your reply. There's no Blessed you say huh. Better have a look at Saint Luke 1: 26-38.
I happen to be an ethnic Roman Catholic.
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Blessed among women, not over women. Btw, Mary needed a Savior for she was a sinner.
 
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AmanII

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Gregoryp said:
alright, let me rephrase , she is not to be worshipped and prayed to. She was a vessel doing Gods work. end of story.
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And your story is very sad to say the least. So tell sir has an Angel approached you lately inviting you to do God's work. Let me answer that for you; No! end of story.
 
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AmanII said:
No...she gave the fruit to her husband and he partaketh of.
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Are you claiming God told them not to have sex? Not to join together? You are spiritualizing the scriptures...not good.
 
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AmanII

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John146 said:
Blessed among women, not over women. Btw, Mary needed a Savior for she was a sinner.
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My Blessed Mother reveals that she was indeed saved. And her cousin Saint Elizabeth said to her " Blessed are you among women."
From now on all generations will call me blessed. I guess all except you I suppose and others sadly.
 
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EleventhHour said:
Do you go out in public naked....just curious?
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lol no, only in context. Like nude beaches, legal walking trails etc. You cant go naked otherwise due to worldly conditioning, being arrested ten times a week wouldn't be nice. Its a $600 fine for being naked in a public place here, expensive! We are in the world, not of the world. Adam and Eves deception has nothing to do with sex or nudity, its about thinking themselves as being above God and his sovereignty.
 
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AmanII

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John146 said:
Are you claiming God told them not to have sex? Not to join together? You are spiritualizing the scriptures...not good.
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No I didn't indicate that. A child was conceived out of wedlock. To use your words " Not Good,"
 
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AmanII

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Gregoryp said:
lol no, only in context. Like nude beaches, legal walking trails etc. You cant go naked otherwise due to worldly conditioning, being arrested ten times a week wouldn't be nice. Its a $600 fine for being naked in a public place here, expensive! We are in the world, not of the world. Adam and Eves deception has nothing to do with sex or nudity, its about thinking themselves as being above God and his sovereignty.
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That's a perverted comment you have directed to me sir. Now I see where your mind is and how you are thinking.
 
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AmanII said:
That's a perverted comment you have directed to me sir. Now I see where your mind is and how you are thinking.
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Is your name "EleventhHour"? Because that's who Gregory was responding to. He didn't address YOU at all..
 
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AmanII said:
Then like I stated before prove me wrong. Let's hear the Walt Disney version. They ate an apple right. In that case why didn't they cover their mouths instead of their genitalia?
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It is quite evident that you are here either as a troll or a provocateur. So you really don't want the truth. I would recommend that everyone ignore this thread.
 
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