Oneness or trinity, Is Jesus God or man?

Dave-L · Mar 7, 2020

r1xlx said:

It says there will be a great falling away. Are you part of that?

Melach · Mar 7, 2020

r1xlx said:

no pride there.

r1xlx said:

your 'sect' is new not historic at all. lolz.

r1xlx · Mar 7, 2020

Dave-L said:

You certainly are.
I preach YAHWEH GOD will soon send His son Jesus to kill all evil people.

Whispered · Mar 7, 2020

Dave-L said:

That's a lie you believe to be true. The Way, the Gospel, predate the introduction of the trinity into the Bible. Dare to learn something.

https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/trinity/trinity-history.html

A born again Christian hoping you will wake up.
You're a follower of Calvinism as I recall.

r1xlx said:

There it is. That same posting style. Delusion is returning again and again after being asked to leave again and again.

Absolutely · Mar 7, 2020

Nehemiah6 said:

Yes
The martyrs died for that.

Absolutely · Mar 7, 2020

r1xlx said:

Jesus when confronted with your statement said "ye know not what spirit you as are of. I came to give life"

Absolutely · Mar 7, 2020

watcher2013 said:

Joh 10:29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
Joh 10:30 I and my Father are one

This is the problem when you based your belief in one verse...
1. Father is greater than all
Joh 10:31 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him.
Joh 10:32 Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?
Joh 10:33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.
why did they said this....
Joh 10:36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?
Joh 10:37 If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not.
Joh 10:38 But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him.

vs. 36. Because Jesus said "I am the Son of God"...the same thing when he called God his father..making him equal with God...
(The Word was with God and WAS God...and philippians 2, He was in form of God and equal with God)
BUT ThAT WAS....HE BECAME FLESH..... What became to you? is it still the previous one?

now the Father and I are one because...Jesus do the works he see the Father do.

I am in agreement the in the Beginning was Word....

John 10- I and the Father are one.” The Jews picked up stones again to stone him. Jesus answered them, “I have shown you many good works from the Father; for which of them are you going to stone me?” The Jews answered him, “It is not for a good work that we are going to stone you but for blasphemy, because you, being a man, make yourself God.”
see above comment

John said "18 No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and[b] is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known.

1Jn 4:12 No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us.
1Jn 4:13 Hereby know we that we dwell in him, and he in us, because he hath given us of his Spirit.
1Jn 4:14 And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world.
1Jn 4:15 Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.

From the same writer....Whoever confess that Jesus is (GOD????) the Son of God....The same writer who emphasize the word of Jesus..the one true God..even the Father.

Is 44- Thus says the Lord, the King of Israel and his Redeemer, the Lord of hosts: “I am the first and I am the last; besides me there is no god.

Again in agreement the Word was God.

Acts 4 Peter says -
It is by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom you crucified but whom God raised from the dead, that this man stands before you healed. 11 Jesus is
“‘the stone you builders rejected,
which has become the cornerstone.’[a]
12 Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to mankind by which we must be saved.”

Who give the name above every name..read hebrews..

Matt. 28-And Jesus came and said to them, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.

Who gave the authority.....
Mark 2-“Why does this man speak like that? He is blaspheming! Who can forgive sins but God alone?”

The Son also has the power to forgive sin

So according to you Jesus was a fraud and a liar. He was killed because He claimed to be God.
He did not claimed to be God..He said he is the Son of God...

Absolutely · Mar 7, 2020

Absolutely said:

watcher2013 said:

"God is the Saviour... but God made Yeshua, Prince and Saviour"

Well there you go
watchtower. Big time

Absolutely · Mar 7, 2020

watcher2013 said:

Heb 1
But unto the Son [he saith],
Thy throne, O God, [is] for
ever and ever: a sceptre of
righteousness [is] the sceptre...

What angle is your intentions,where you are forced to desecrate the Holy Bible?

Absolutely · Mar 7, 2020

watcher2013 said:

Jude:
To the only wise God our
Saviour, [be] glory and
majesty, dominion and power,
both now and ever. Amen.

Slick that verse down for us.
Get real crafty with it

Absolutely · Mar 7, 2020

watcher2013 said:

So Thomas was a heretic when he worshipped a created being and called him God.

Absolutely · Mar 7, 2020

watcher2013 said:

What doctrines do you recommend?
What links to correct teachings?

Absolutely · Mar 7, 2020

r1xlx said:

Are you aware that prayer is talking to God?
Jesus talks. We interact with him through prayer.
Uh...hello...Christian's interact with Jesus through WORDS.
CONVERSATION.

Now you come up with removing conversation with Jesus.

Jesus "my sheep hear my voice"

You "don't listen (pray) to that jesus guy,that is heresy"

r1xlx · Mar 8, 2020

I'm sure Satan is delighted at how he has you fooled.
"Then Jesus, still teaching in the temple courts, cried out, 'Yes, you know me, and you know where I am from. I am not here on my own, but he who sent me is true. You do not know him, but I know him because I am from him and he sent me'" (John 7:28-29).

r1xlx · Mar 8, 2020

Whispered said:

There it is. That same posting style. Delusion is returning again and again after being asked to leave again and again.

You aren't smart or clever enough to offer any real insight as your eyes are dimmed and ears are blocked by believing your friend Stana's lies.
A Christian is by definition a follower of Christ and Christ often revealed that he is the son of YAHWEH.
https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/trinity/trinity-history.html

r1xlx · Mar 8, 2020

Absolutely said:

Deluded martyrs mostly.

Dave-L · Mar 8, 2020

Whispered said:

No trinity = no grasp of truth= no true Christ = no salvation for the hardcore antitrinitarian. (The ignorant might be saved.)

Dave-L · Mar 8, 2020

r1xlx said:

YHWH = the trinity.

“Approach Me and listen to this. From the beginning I have not spoken in secret; from the time anything existed, I was there.” And now the Lord GOD has sent me and His Spirit.” (Isaiah 48:16) (HCSB)

gb9 · Mar 8, 2020

Dave-L said:

keep in mind- whispered thinks that one has to keep the Sabbath to be saved.

this is where the theology of this person goes way wrong.

r1xlx · Mar 8, 2020

GOD said Jesus is His son. Jesus said he is GOD's son.
None of you are your children or your parents.
This is obviously above your understanding.

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