Why do Jesus want us to kill disobedient children?

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From Matthew, there is no doubt that Jesus criticizes the Pharisees for not killing disobedient children:

15:1 Then came to Jesus scribes and Pharisees, which were of Jerusalem, saying,
15:2 Why do thy disciples transgress the tradition of the elders? for they wash not their hands when they eat bread.
The scribes and Pharisees said to Jesus,
Why do your disciples break the tradition of the elders by not washing their hands before eating?​
15:3-9, Cf. Mk 7:6-13
15:3 But he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition?
15:4 For God commanded, saying, Honour thy father and mother: and, He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death.
Jesus replied,
Why do you break God's commandment by not killing children who curse their parents? [1]​
15:5 But ye say, Whosoever shall say to his father or his mother, It is a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me;
15:6 And honour not his father or his mother, he shall be free. Thus have ye made the commandment of God of none effect by your tradition.

I personally could not harm a child, so i wont follow this command from Jesus.

Really hope we can discuss this even if the subject is very harsh.
 
sleeper92 said:
From Matthew, there is no doubt that Jesus criticizes the Pharisees for not killing disobedient children:

15:1 Then came to Jesus scribes and Pharisees, which were of Jerusalem, saying,
15:2 Why do thy disciples transgress the tradition of the elders? for they wash not their hands when they eat bread.
The scribes and Pharisees said to Jesus,
Why do your disciples break the tradition of the elders by not washing their hands before eating?​
15:3-9, Cf. Mk 7:6-13
15:3 But he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition?
15:4 For God commanded, saying, Honour thy father and mother: and, He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death.
Jesus replied,
Why do you break God's commandment by not killing children who curse their parents? [1]​
15:5 But ye say, Whosoever shall say to his father or his mother, It is a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me;
15:6 And honour not his father or his mother, he shall be free. Thus have ye made the commandment of God of none effect by your tradition.

I personally could not harm a child, so i wont follow this command from Jesus.

Really hope we can discuss this even if the subject is very harsh.
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Actually, Jesus was teaching that sinners should refrain from judging by the letter. But twisting Jesus's meaning is what happens when atheists misinterpret scripture.
 
Actually, Jesus always taught the danger of sinners judging others by the letter of the law. But twisting Jesus's meaning is what happens when atheists comment on scripture.
 
sleeper92 said:
From Matthew, there is no doubt that Jesus criticizes the Pharisees for not killing disobedient children:

15:1 Then came to Jesus scribes and Pharisees, which were of Jerusalem, saying,
15:2 Why do thy disciples transgress the tradition of the elders? for they wash not their hands when they eat bread.
The scribes and Pharisees said to Jesus,
Why do your disciples break the tradition of the elders by not washing their hands before eating?​
15:3-9, Cf. Mk 7:6-13
15:3 But he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition?
15:4 For God commanded, saying, Honour thy father and mother: and, He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death.
Jesus replied,
Why do you break God's commandment by not killing children who curse their parents? [1]​
15:5 But ye say, Whosoever shall say to his father or his mother, It is a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me;
15:6 And honour not his father or his mother, he shall be free. Thus have ye made the commandment of God of none effect by your tradition.

I personally could not harm a child, so i wont follow this command from Jesus.

Really hope we can discuss this even if the subject is very harsh.
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It's called rhetoric. Jesus was not advocating the death of their children, but rather that no more than they wanted to kill their disobedient children did he want his to go hungry. He is more merciful than them and would have his children eat rather than go hungry because limited water for washing hands. His point is that the law was never intended to prevent the doing of good nor to cause harm but was for their benefit.
By doing so he also pointed out their hypocrisy.
If it comes down to the strictest sense of the law, then God by his own law should have destroyed all man kind not save them.
 
sleeper92 said:
From Matthew, there is no doubt that Jesus criticizes the Pharisees for not killing disobedient children:

15:1 Then came to Jesus scribes and Pharisees, which were of Jerusalem, saying,
15:2 Why do thy disciples transgress the tradition of the elders? for they wash not their hands when they eat bread.
The scribes and Pharisees said to Jesus,
Why do your disciples break the tradition of the elders by not washing their hands before eating?​
15:3-9, Cf. Mk 7:6-13
15:3 But he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition?
15:4 For God commanded, saying, Honour thy father and mother: and, He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death.
Jesus replied,
Why do you break God's commandment by not killing children who curse their parents? [1]​
15:5 But ye say, Whosoever shall say to his father or his mother, It is a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me;
15:6 And honour not his father or his mother, he shall be free. Thus have ye made the commandment of God of none effect by your tradition.

I personally could not harm a child, so i wont follow this command from Jesus.

Really hope we can discuss this even if the subject is very harsh.
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Paul says God aimed the OT Law at wicked unbelievers and their children.

“But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully; Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;” 1 Timothy 1:8–10 (KJV 1900)

All were under threat of death for disobedience. So they were breaking the law by not killing the disobedient. Kids were no exception.
 
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sleeper92 said:
From Matthew, there is no doubt that Jesus criticizes the Pharisees for not killing disobedient children:

15:1 Then came to Jesus scribes and Pharisees, which were of Jerusalem, saying,
15:2 Why do thy disciples transgress the tradition of the elders? for they wash not their hands when they eat bread.
The scribes and Pharisees said to Jesus,
Why do your disciples break the tradition of the elders by not washing their hands before eating?​
15:3-9, Cf. Mk 7:6-13
15:3 But he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition?
15:4 For God commanded, saying, Honour thy father and mother: and, He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death.
Jesus replied,
Why do you break God's commandment by not killing children who curse their parents? [1]​
15:5 But ye say, Whosoever shall say to his father or his mother, It is a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me;
15:6 And honour not his father or his mother, he shall be free. Thus have ye made the commandment of God of none effect by your tradition.

I personally could not harm a child, so i wont follow this command from Jesus.

Really hope we can discuss this even if the subject is very harsh.
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An atheist new member . The Skeptics Annotated book is their source for the above.In fairness though at least the owner of that site has the courage to also include the Skeptics Koran and Book of Mormon.

Two out of three won't issue a death warrant. One however... Fatwa descending on Steve Wells of the SAK in 10, 9, 8, ....."religion of peace" , 7, 6, ....
 
sleeper92 said:
From Matthew, there is no doubt that Jesus criticizes the Pharisees for not killing disobedient children:

15:1 Then came to Jesus scribes and Pharisees, which were of Jerusalem, saying,
15:2 Why do thy disciples transgress the tradition of the elders? for they wash not their hands when they eat bread.
The scribes and Pharisees said to Jesus,
Why do your disciples break the tradition of the elders by not washing their hands before eating?​
15:3-9, Cf. Mk 7:6-13
15:3 But he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition?
15:4 For God commanded, saying, Honour thy father and mother: and, He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death.
Jesus replied,
Why do you break God's commandment by not killing children who curse their parents? [1]​
15:5 But ye say, Whosoever shall say to his father or his mother, It is a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me;
15:6 And honour not his father or his mother, he shall be free. Thus have ye made the commandment of God of none effect by your tradition.

I personally could not harm a child, so i wont follow this command from Jesus.

Really hope we can discuss this even if the subject is very harsh.
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Jesus is talking about the death of their flesh not their physical lives.
 
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