Genesis 3:15 and what really happened in the garden of Eden

[posthuman]

As far as Proverbs is concerned that's not a part of the new covenant or new testament.

you didn't even look it up, huh.

well, one can see how a person gets such perverted & confused theology, when they don't even bother reading scripture.

 

[AmanII]

it's profoundly sad to see a person who believes salvation is through ritual sacrament administered by a mortal priest.
i am terribly sorry for you, that you think your hope of eternal life hinges on repeating a mantra while fingering some little beads made of a tree.



friend, have you never heard of The Hope and The Way?

I AM the resurrection and the life. He who believes in Me, though he may die, he shall live, and whoever lives and believes in Me shall never die. Do you believe this?​

(John 11:25-26) ​

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you thought you came here to teach us; you were deceived. don't stay that way.
perhaps you were drawn here in order to learn something, if you would humble yourself. listen to Jesus. seek Him. God is spirit, and the kingdom is not rite and liturgy, ceremony and pomp; it is life and peace, in spirit and in truth. it is not by human hands that the heart is circumcised, neither is it by the permission or works of a human that we are made partakers with Him.

Careful Jesus Himself is The True High and exalted Priest. You probably didn't even know that. See Hebrews 3:1

 

[posthuman]

Yes. Jesus gave His blessed Mother to the Church. " Woman behold your son, John behold your Mother."

oh now John = the church eh?

you really are a poor catholic. you're supposed to tell us it is Simon Peter who is 'the church' lol

on the other hand it's possible i haven't heard the latest abrogation of the word of God by the papacy. *shrug*

 

[posthuman]

Careful Jesus Himself is The True High and exalted Priest.

if this is true ((and it certainly is)) why on earth would you blaspheme His name by calling a mere man your 'priest' ?

 

[AmanII]

if this is true why on earth would you blaspheme His name by calling a mere man your 'priest' ?

Did not Jesus Himself place His hands upon Saint Peter and Saint Peter do the same on and on and on. Every lawfully ordained priest ever was confirmed by someone going all the way back to Jesus Christ. Absolutely no other faith in the world can claim that!

 

[AmanII]

oh now John = the church eh?

you really are a poor catholic. you're supposed to tell us it is Simon Peter who is 'the church' lol

on the other hand it's possible i haven't heard the latest abrogation of the word of God by the papacy. *shrug*

You might want to refer to him as Saint John. He was guardian of the Church until the assumption of the blessed Mother.

 

[posthuman]

Did not Jesus Himself place His hands upon Saint Peter and Saint Peter do the same on and on and on. Every lawfully ordained priest ever was confirmed by someone going all the way back to Jesus Christ. Absolutely no other faith in the world can claim that!

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you are not to be called ‘Rabbi,’ for you have one Teacher, and you are all brothers, and do not call anyone on earth ‘father,’ for you have one Father, and He is in heaven, nor are you to be called instructors, for you have one Instructor, the Messiah.​

(Matthew 23:8-10)​

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As for those who were held in high esteem — whatever they were makes no difference to me; God does not show favoritism — they added nothing to my message. ​

(Galatians 2:6) ​

 

[posthuman]

He was guardian of the Church until the assumption of the blessed Mother.

oh dude, i am laughing and crying at the same time for you!

you're contradicting the words of my own brother Simon Peter, did you know that?

In His great mercy He has given us new birth into a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, and into an inheritance that can never perish, spoil or fade! This inheritance is kept in heaven for you, who through faith are shielded by God’s power until the coming of the salvation that is ready to be revealed in the last time. ​

(1 Peter 1:3-5) ​

One Shepherd: the LORD Jesus Christ. ((John 10:16))
no one else guards me; no on else can.

 

[AmanII]

You might want to refer to him as Saint John. He was guardian of the Church until the assumption of the blessed Mother.

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you are not to be called ‘Rabbi,’ for you have one Teacher, and you are all brothers, and do not call anyone on earth ‘father,’ for you have one Father, and He is in heaven, nor are you to be called instructors, for you have one Instructor, the Messiah.​

(Matthew 23:8-10)​

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As for those who were held in high esteem — whatever they were makes no difference to me; God does not show favoritism — they added nothing to my message. ​

(Galatians 2:6) ​

Correct! Favoritism as far as the laity meaning those within His body.

You remind me of this movie I saw. It was the end of the world and an Angel came to warn the people. The false believer
replied to the Angel " So are you here to protect us? The Angel replied..." No not you!"

 

[AmanII]

oh dude, i am laughing and crying at the same time for you!

you're contradicting the words of my own brother Simon Peter, did you know that?

In His great mercy He has given us new birth into a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, and into an inheritance that can never perish, spoil or fade! This inheritance is kept in heaven for you, who through faith are shielded by God’s power until the coming of the salvation that is ready to be revealed in the last time. ​

(1 Peter 1:3-5) ​

One Shepherd: the LORD Jesus Christ. ((John 10:16))
no one else guards me; no on else can.

Fine. But does He know you? Because you certainly refuse to know Him.

 

[AmanII]

Fine. But does He know you? Because you certainly refuse to know Him.

You reply using words like Dude. Do you think you're on American idol?

 

[posthuman]

as far as the laity

there is no 'laity'

you don't even know what my brother Simon says? 1 Peter 2:9 -- we, who believe, are a kingdom of priests.

woe, woe, woe!

 

[AmanII]

there is no 'laity'

you don't even know what my brother Simon says? 1 Peter 2:9 -- we, who believe, are a kingdom of priests.

woe, woe, woe!

You are childlike and hell bent on false beliefs. That's your business. Saint Peter is the keystone of the Roman Catholic church.
Saint Peter is buried in Rome directly over his alter at Saint Peter's basilica. So you claim Saint Peter as your brother yet you deny his Papacy.

 

[John146]

Marry means Matrimonial and is a rite associated with motherhood.
Next question...

Soooo, how was Cain born out of wedlock? This is the next question.

 

[AmanII]

Soooo, how was Cain born out of wedlock? This is the next question.

God is everywhere in the Garden. Where He is not however is at Lucifer's portal. You understand it as the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. It was here where Cain was conceived. Conceived where Lord God had exactly forbidden.

 

[AmanII]

God is everywhere in the Garden. Where He is not however is at Lucifer's portal. You understand it as the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. It was here where Cain was conceived. Conceived where Lord God had exactly forbidden.

This out of wedlock.

 

[AmanII]

This out of wedlock.

The key word is " out" Out of the boundary of Holy Matrimony.

 

[AmanII]

The key word is " out" Out of the boundary of Holy Matrimony.

The word " wedlock" is common parlance. Personally I don't frequent the word but most people are familiar with it as compared to matrimony.

 

[John146]

God is everywhere in the Garden. Where He is not however is at Lucifer's portal. You understand it as the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. It was here where Cain was conceived. Conceived where Lord God had exactly forbidden.

So the tree is spiritual, the fruit is spiritual, eating of the fruit is spiritual, etc...when you don’t take the Bible literally, you can make it say anything you want. Hence, your private interpretation.

And it’s not Lucifer, he’s the serpent called the devil and Satan.

Adam was not deceived but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.

 

[AmanII]

So the tree is spiritual, the fruit is spiritual, eating of the fruit is spiritual, etc...when you don’t take the Bible literally, you can make it say anything you want. Hence, your private interpretation.

So the tree is spiritual, the fruit is spiritual, eating of the fruit is spiritual, etc...when you don’t take the Bible literally, you can make it say anything you want. Hence, your private interpretation.

And it’s not Lucifer, he’s the serpent called the devil and Satan.

Adam was not deceived but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.

So the tree is spiritual, the fruit is spiritual, eating of the fruit is spiritual, etc...when you don’t take the Bible literally, you can make it say anything you want. Hence, your private interpretation.

And it’s not Lucifer, he’s the serpent called the devil and Satan.

Adam was not deceived but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.

Adam was not deceived but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.

You said : And it’s not Lucifer, he’s the serpent called the devil and Satan. True but only after God pronounced His curse upon him.
Eve was cursed with labor pains and put under her husband meaning that Adam would ruled over her.
Adam was cursed for listening to his wife. He had to toil and thorn and thistle would plague him. And by his transgression the world would be under original sin.

Then you said: Adam was not deceived but the woman being deceived was in the transgression So Adam wasn't in transgression?