Hope in Coronavirus.

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Lanolin

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the biggest underground church on earth is IN CHINA.
 

Lanolin

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your computer which you are typing on is probably assembled by Chinese workers. The railroad was built by chinese workers. The toilet paper people are madly buying is probably packaged in plastic made in china. The clothes and ripped jeans you wear are made by people in China.

the compass was invented in China. Paper was invented in China. the fireworks americans let off to celebrate fourth of July were invented in China. Is anyone thankful for how much China has given us? tea, silk, porcelain...
 

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It is interesting .... 60 million had H1N1 in the USA and 12,000 people died.
There was some alarm but certainly not like this?

I worry about the actual real agenda behind this.
The actual real agenda regarding COVID 19 is control and money.
 

tourist

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I’m at Kroger right now and half the shelves are empty. No water, canned goods, bread or paper products. Frozen food and meats are mostly empty to.
Same experience at my local super Walmart this morning, totally wiped out - everything. Had better luck at my local Publix. Clean store, stocked shelves except for toilet paper of course. I was thinking about stealing a roll from their men's restroom. Yeah, its coming down to that.
 
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The actual real agenda regarding COVID 19 is control and money.
Maybe so but it does not mean that virus it not real and serious... the USA is not in a good place, they do not haveenough testing kits, they have no idea how many are infected, where they tested the number grew significantly, ... stay home if you can.. people over 70 are at high risk for pneumonia.
 
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Same experience at my local super Walmart this morning, totally wiped out - everything. Had better luck at my local Publix. Clean store, stocked shelves except for toilet paper of course. I was thinking about stealing a roll from their men's restroom. Yeah, its coming down to that.
The supply chain is not the problem... the problem is health care system and its ability to deal with thousands of sick people, it will not be able to .. simple as that.
 
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Hope in Coronavirus comes from the scripture "Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you, ..." James 4:8 (KJV)

Coronavirus is no greater than any other affliction known to man (in God's eyes). Plus, because it has not reached all areas yet, we still have a window of opportunity to choose how to prepare, choose where to put our faith, and also to choose how close to God we would like be as it passes by.

If anyone wants to have God closer, I'm fairly certain God is all for that. When Jesus wept over Jerusalem, he said "If thou hadst known...at least in this, thy day..." Meaning they didn't have to have lived a perfect life all the way through. Only one day of finding out what God had available for them would have made a huge difference.

I'm fairly certain some (many?) on here will suggest some negative reason for this posting. That's their business. But if you really want God to be near you as this wave passes over, there is hope and you are encouraged to seek God to find out what he's willing to do for those who diligently seek him.

Love in Jesus,
Kelby
I look at how it is working for our good. According to Paul, it is. And how God prepared us over the last year or so to deal with it. Totally surprised when it began to hit.
 

Lanolin

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it is only because there is really no cure for the common cold. How many peoole have caught a cold or flu and survived? for some men they simply cannot handle it. in winter it is a fact of life that you will fall sick if you work with lots of children.

I remember the AIDS panic in the eighties and nineties. People were saying use a condom.
still people spread it round anyway. Now much of africa is infected. And yes people still die from HIV. But the easiest way to transmit it is sexual contact. The thing is if we dont know how to be hygienic, and a surprising number of people dont...well this means you are going to learn.
 

Lanolin

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caring for someone who is sick or even dying is something we all need to learn to do.
 

1ofthem

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who is we.

are you saying you are not from China? everyone is human. even the Chinese people are human. People forget that.
Wow that is a little bit of an over dramatized statement you made there. I mean he just explained to you who we are, and was commenting on the fact that he had nothing against the Chinese...so why all the judgement? We... can mean any people in a group, not meaning that the other groups of people are subhuman or anything. Well that's what I thought it meant anyhow.

Anyhow let me clarify, We, the people of the United States of America, do not think we are the only people on earth. Is that statement alright or should we rip up our constitution since it starts with "We the people of the United States of America.";)
 

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Wow that is a little bit of an over dramatized statement you made there. I mean he just explained to you who we are, and was commenting on the fact that he had nothing against the Chinese...so why all the judgement? We... can mean any people in a group, not meaning that the other groups of people are subhuman or anything. Well that's what I thought it meant anyhow.

Anyhow let me clarify, We, the people of the United States of America, do not think we are the only people on earth. Is that statement alright or should we rip up our constitution since it starts with "We the people of the United States of America.";)
Then again, who knows, maybe I'm the one being dramatic with that post...:)
 
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Then again, who knows, maybe I'm the one being dramatic with that post...:)
I don’t think so, we the people of the United States are made up of vast cultural and ethnic backgrounds some from China some from India some from Ireland. the big melting pot :)
 
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not the little children under 5 that are dying, I suspect most are not of natural causes either.
It is up to the parents to provide a protective cover for the children. My dad served our community as a Pediatrician for over 50 years. This was an ongoing discussion and debate between us. He felt everything was random and no one was ever to blame for an illness. We do not blame people, we just say they have power and authority available to them and they need to be enabled to use what God makes available for them to use. Even we are told: ""Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you were not willing." (Matthew 23:37) Clearly it is God's desire to shelter and protect us. People are not always willing to allow Him to do that.
 
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It is up to the parents to provide a protective cover for the children. My dad served our community as a Pediatrician for over 50 years. This was an ongoing discussion and debate between us. He felt everything was random and no one was ever to blame for an illness. We do not blame people, we just say they have power and authority available to them and they need to be enabled to use what God makes available for them to use. Even we are told: ""Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you were not willing." (Matthew 23:37) Clearly it is God's desire to shelter and protect us. People are not always willing to allow Him to do that.
well after I looked into some of things the children under 5 is every 5 seconds, I’ve found there is a high amount dying from malaria.

a lot of children don’t have parents and that may or may not be the parents fault as in if parents died.
some countries is harsh living and a lot of these deaths come from areas that are not as advanced as other nations, and or remote locations.
 
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caring for someone who is sick or even dying is something we all need to learn to do.
The question is are we going to follow Science, the Bible or perhaps both. Science does not always have answers or solutions. God always has answers for every question and a solution for every problem. Even abundantly above and beyond all that we could ever ask and think. If Science had all the answers and solutions then I would devote my life to serve Science. God has answers and solutions so this is why I devote my life to serve God. With God death can be a victory or a defeat. We fight the good fight to run the race set out before us. So we can finish the work, plan and purpose that God has for us.
 
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new research has come out, cloraquin something like that, a medicine to treat malaria, is showing promising effects on treated corona, as well medicine for lupus and a few other medications that has been out for awhile. at least these are showing great help in keeping a lot of the symptoms at bay which that can save lives as well. if the symptoms can be limited that can have a lot of impact on the survival rate.
 
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a lot of children don’t have parents and that may or may not be the parents fault as in if parents died.
The most effective means of preventing malaria is sleeping under a mosquito net, specifically a long-lasting insecticide treated net (LLIN). Each net costs about $2.00, lasts for 3-4 years, and protects, on average, two people. Clearly there is something parents can do to protect their children.

Here in America they provide free prenatal health care for mothers. A lot if not most of the problems that they test for are a direct result of the mothers high risk lifestyle. Women over 35 are considered to be high risk just based on her age. My wife had her baby at 35 because she knew her biological clock was ticking and that there is a cut off date for when women should conceive.

The Bible says: "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge" (Hosea 4:6) Parents can provide substantial protection for their child with a $2 investment. Perhaps they are not aware of that and lack understanding.

Again we are not looking for fault or blame. WE are trying to empower people through giving them knowledge and understanding. For example I use to sell knives. Sometimes people would ask me about a knife they could use to protect themselves. I would explain to them that what they need for protection is something like tear gas, not a knife. So there was lot of teaching involved in what I was doing. When a father buys his son their first knife there is a lot of teaching that goes along with that.
 

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Sadly this virus is no small matter yes it is very much like the flu however unlike the flu it can attack a vital organ which I cant really recall which one it is only that we only have one and it is incurable. many people are freaking out stores here in okc are constantly having to restock because people are buying everything out for fear of what is to come and even in my own house we have to begin to ration because it is much harder to get things fear and constant worry is rampant people are wearing masks and preparing for an apocalyptic scenario.

I myself am much more likely to get it because of my history with cancer diebetes and my low immune system but we have to understand that we were told things like this would occure in the last days especially so as we near the tribulation but it does no good to fear and worry because we are to have our eyes on the heavenly things and trust in him.

It is of course foolish to not have caution like washing our hands covering our mouths when we cough sneeeze or even yawn because even if the symptions do not show at first one could have already contracted the virus and risk spreading it. I am not one for germs to begin with so I always cover my mouth with my arms even before this happened but now it is an absolute must and my family is getting sick of me (nagging) when they don't cover their mouths.

My mom works at a home for the elderly and my older sister is a nurse so I worry for them even today a lady at my moms work got the flue and was quarantined people are not taking this lightly and for good reason. I have been talking to God about it a lot because it isn't me I worry for it others I even asked him that if anyone in my family or any friends or loved ones were going to get it to allow me to take their place because I would much rather I suffer and perhaps die than them even though something tells me he wouldn't let me I simply can't help asking.

I have been basically quarantined for years anyways since I am unable to go anywhere or do anything on my own and because of my past I am no stranger to illness and suffering and I don't fear death so I would much rather have to go through it than for anyone else to but this virus doesn't seem to be going anywhere anytime soon and so it is even more important than ever to have faith and trust in him. in this time of worry and fear people need hope and his light and we are the bearer's of his hope and light so more than anything our faith in him is vital we cannot submit to fear and worry in this dark season because after all the light shines brightests in the dark.
 
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its weird how people are laying blame on China when they are actually being their own worst enemy.
The issue with China has to do with their disregard for human life.
 
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The most effective means of preventing malaria is sleeping under a mosquito net, specifically a long-lasting insecticide treated net (LLIN). Each net costs about $2.00, lasts for 3-4 years, and protects, on average, two people. Clearly there is something parents can do to protect their children.

Here in America they provide free prenatal health care for mothers. A lot if not most of the problems that they test for are a direct result of the mothers high risk lifestyle. Women over 35 are considered to be high risk just based on her age. My wife had her baby at 35 because she knew her biological clock was ticking and that there is a cut off date for when women should conceive.

The Bible says: "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge" (Hosea 4:6) Parents can provide substantial protection for their child with a $2 investment. Perhaps they are not aware of that and lack understanding.

Again we are not looking for fault or blame. WE are trying to empower people through giving them knowledge and understanding. For example I use to sell knives. Sometimes people would ask me about a knife they could use to protect themselves. I would explain to them that what they need for protection is something like tear gas, not a knife. So there was lot of teaching involved in what I was doing. When a father buys his son their first knife there is a lot of teaching that goes along with that.
well malaria isn’t all that common in the U.S. the places that are most effected are Large areas of Africa and South Asia and parts of Central and South America, the Caribbean, Southeast Asia, the Middle East, considered areas where malaria transmission occurs. the United States can have some impact on those nations and how they treat the disease as far as business affairs and what people can afford is probably out of another’s nations control, we have to respect people’s sovereignty as a nation, some don’t want help it’s their right as a nation.