Catholicism vs Protestantism

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Lafftur

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You know, I think Yeshua/Jesus would just simply say to all of us.....

There is a way that seems right to a man, but the end thereof is death. Follow Me.” :love:(y)
Even Mary said, “Whatever He (Jesus) tells you to do, do it!”
 

Lafftur

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#42
Absolutely correct.

Which is why obedience to scripture is paramount.

Great point!
But, tell me about love for God.... tell me why you love Him.... tell me about His love for you.... tell me about the heart of God.....

Love so amazing..... all of Heaven worships God not because of His splendor or power or majesty....that’s their habitat - they live in and breathe God’s splendor and majesty, but they worship God because all of Heaven is in AWE OF HIS LOVE...:love:(y)
 
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pottersclay

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The Catholic Church as a whole is a anti-christ. I believe there are some that are saved but why they keep their place in the church when the Lord comanded us to come out from among them is puzzling to me.
 
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Even Mary said, “Whatever He (Jesus) tells you to do, do it!”
Jesus said:

The hour comes, and now is, when the true worshipers shall worship the Father is spirit and in truth: for the Father seeks such to worship him. God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth (John 4:23-24).

And this brings us back to the scripture:

Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth (John 17:17).

Wherewithal shall a young man cleanse his way? by taking heed thereto according to thy word (Psalm 119:9).

A man does not cleanse his way by proper interpretation, or having a correct view of scripture, but by taking heed unto it.

Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition he received of us. (2 Thessalonians 3:6).

And this tradition is from the apostles in their inspired letters, the scriptures. He does not tell us to withdraw from every brother who does not properly interpret the scriptures. He does not say withdraw from every brother with the wrong view of scripture. He says withdraw from every brother who walks disorderly. Hence, not obeying the commandments of the Lord delivered by the apostles.

For ye know what commandments we gave you by the Lord Jesus (1 Thessalonians 4:2).
 

JaumeJ

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#45
Learn who the Great Harlot is. Then learn who her daughters are. Now learn who is to be (or is) called out of her (and her daughters too.)

Learn the above and yo will have no need to ask the title question.
 

bojack

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#46
Then there should be a Christian church or true Christian church that holds to the doctrine of scripture. Yes or no? Who is right? Which group? I am guessing your view of scripture is correct, right? So if someone contradicts your view then they are on the bad list that leads to Hell?
I think denominations are good and necessary , those who teach sound doctrine .. The cults , not so much .. And I would think there's many true Christians in the RCC, at least I think so that quietly don't believe the rcc bunk .. I had a guy from up north, a complete stranger to me I took in for 3 days who claimed he was brought up RC but he never once mentioned the RCC as his authority, he was strictly Jesus ,faith only with no-nonsense, come to go out witness Jesus and invite people to our Baptist revival , he had received a last minute miracle and I believe salvation on his deathbed in the hospital so wonderful that I wouldn't repeat it here .. Two others who claimed they were Catholic I come to know attending different denomination revivals and they spoke in tongues too .. Never heard either of them push the RCC stuff, just Jesus .. Me, I can't see me in any RCC .. I think they are anti-Christ and the RCC hierarchy still want to kill protestants ..


18 But now hath God set the members every one of them in the body, as it hath pleased him.
19 And if they were all one member, where were the body?
20 But now are they many members, yet but one body.
 

Nebuchadnezzer

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Where do they differ and why?
True Catholicism is the recognition that their popes are true apostles in succession from Peter or other Apostle.
Not listening to or accepting the instructions of the Popes is the same as not listening to or accepting the instructions of Apostles Peter and Paul.

True Protestantism is a rejection of the Catholic Popes because they are not apostles, but are false prophets. Because they are false you must not follow their instructions.
 

Lafftur

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#48
Jesus said:

The hour comes, and now is, when the true worshipers shall worship the Father is spirit and in truth: for the Father seeks such to worship him. God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth (John 4:23-24).

And this brings us back to the scripture:

Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth (John 17:17).

Wherewithal shall a young man cleanse his way? by taking heed thereto according to thy word (Psalm 119:9).

A man does not cleanse his way by proper interpretation, or having a correct view of scripture, but by taking heed unto it.

Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition he received of us. (2 Thessalonians 3:6).

And this tradition is from the apostles in their inspired letters, the scriptures. He does not tell us to withdraw from every brother who does not properly interpret the scriptures. He does not say withdraw from every brother with the wrong view of scripture. He says withdraw from every brother who walks disorderly. Hence, not obeying the commandments of the Lord delivered by the apostles.

For ye know what commandments we gave you by the Lord Jesus (1 Thessalonians 4:2).
I highly recommend we focus on loving God truly with all our heart, mind, body, soul and strength and love others...... especially when it comes down to commandments....:love:


And one of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together, and perceiving that he had answered them well, asked him, Which is the first commandment of all?

And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord: And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment. And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these. And the scribe said unto him, Well, Master, thou hast said the truth: for there is one God; and there is none other but he: And to love him with all the heart, and with all the understanding, and with all the soul, and with all the strength, and to love his neighbour as himself, is more than all whole burnt offerings and sacrifices. And when Jesus saw that he answered discreetly, he said unto him, Thou art not far from the kingdom of God. And no man after that durst ask him any question.
Mark 12:28-34 - https://www.biblegateway.com/passage?search=Mark 12:28-34&version=KJV
 

Lafftur

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#49
@Roughsoul1991 - there is no one true denomination that has it all right.

However, the true Church - the Bride of Christ is scattered all over the globe, sprinkled amongst all denominations. You’ll know His disciples by the love they have for one another.
 
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The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord: And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment. And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.
Amen!

And we should take heed to this scripture and not debate on views and interpretations of it.

Anything more than simply obeying the word is an attempt to justify ourselves.

But he [a lawyer], willing to justify himself, said unto Jesus, And who is my neighbor? (Luke 10:29).
 

Lafftur

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Amen!

And we should take heed to this scripture and not debate on views and interpretations of it.

Anything more than simply obeying the word is an attempt to justify ourselves.

But he [a lawyer], willing to justify himself, said unto Jesus, And who is my neighbor? (Luke 10:29).
So, who was his neighbor?

Was his neighbor of the same “denomination”? :unsure:
 

Jackson123

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The Catholic Church as a whole is a anti-christ. I believe there are some that are saved but why they keep their place in the church when the Lord comanded us to come out from among them is puzzling to me.
I am sure It is

Pope promote one world government and one world government is the antichrist government in rev 13

So pope work for Lucifer
https://www.sermonaudio.com/new_details.asp?ID=51749
 
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Locoponydirtman

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Catholic and Protestant are not the only options. There is Orthodox, and Lutheran, and Presbyterians.
 

bojack

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#54
So, who was his neighbor?

Was his neighbor of the same “denomination”? :unsure:
The Jesuits are the biggest bunch of criminals, manipulaters and murderers ever were imo but there were some good ones to set a tone .. If the Bible or Jesus said kill your neighbor, I'd be on it, but He didn't , that was the other guy says that.. Jesus said love your neighbor, but to trust Him . I'm not going to play the devils game .. ''I put down my gun first and then you'll put down yours'' ain't gonna happen unless you're the police, I belong to Jesus and I'm charged to provide/defend for my family or I'm worse than an infidel .... I told about 5 goth indignant young men who kept getting bolder one night, after they asked would I turn the other cheek if they smacked me, I said if you are cut and offended by the Word of Jesus then yes I would gladly turn the other cheek but if you smacked me because you perceive weakness and simply thought you could, I got closer in his face with a little grin then pointed my finger and said ''I'll backhand you and your buddies across that road, over that sidewalk, and up those courthouse steps '', then went right back to being humble and non threatening .. After that I couldn't get away from them and they asked questions for another what seemed an hr about Jesus and the Bible .. I have faith they or some went on to get saved when Jesus said ''that's enough, leave them thirsty'', We had a ball and they knew I was loving them .. Every time I'd act like I had to go they would follow me and I already knew every question they wanted to ask ..

16 Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.
17 But beware of men: for they will deliver you up to the councils, and they will scourge you in their synagogues;
 

Lafftur

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#55
Denominations divide believers. Just focus on loving God and others as yourself.

Find a denomination that you enjoy the people and can love God and others, but DO NOT separate yourself from loving other believers in Christ just because you are not the same denominations.

Remember the Samaritan caring for the Jew.
 

Lafftur

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The Jesuits are the biggest bunch of criminals, manipulaters and murderers ever were imo but there were some good ones to set a tone .. If the Bible or Jesus said kill your neighbor, I'd be on it, but He didn't , that was the other guy says that.. Jesus said love your neighbor, but to trust Him . I'm not going to play the devils game .. ''I put down my gun first and then you'll put down yours'' ain't gonna happen unless you're the police, I belong to Jesus and I'm charged to provide/defend for my family or I'm worse than an infidel .... I told about 5 goth indignant young men who kept getting bolder one night, after they asked would I turn the other cheek if they smacked me, I said if you are cut and offended by the Word of Jesus then yes I would gladly turn the other cheek but if you smacked me because you perceive weakness and simply thought you could, I got closer in his face with a little grin then pointed my finger and said ''I'll backhand you and your buddies across that road, over that sidewalk, and up those courthouse steps '', then went right back to being humble and non threatening .. After that I couldn't get away from them and they asked questions for another what seemed an hr about Jesus and the Bible .. I have faith they or some went on to get saved when Jesus said ''that's enough, leave them thirsty'', We had a ball and they knew I was loving them .. Every time I'd act like I had to go they would follow me and I already knew every question they wanted to ask ..

16 Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.
17 But beware of men: for they will deliver you up to the councils, and they will scourge you in their synagogues;
Yes! Excellent! You were right on!

They needed to know that being a believer in Yeshua/Jesus is NOT a weak position. It is LOVE with AUTHORITY.

No wonder they couldn’t get enough of you! :giggle::love:(y)

To the forward, God shows Himself forward. Amen!
 

bojack

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Denominations divide believers. Just focus on loving God and others as yourself.

Find a denomination that you enjoy the people and can love God and others, but DO NOT separate yourself from loving other believers in Christ just because you are not the same denominations.

Remember the Samaritan caring for the Jew.
You ever been to a small town church league softball game where everybody knows each other ? Home team leads the prayer , then you play to win and with way more passion and fights than any other leagues I've ever played in .. Then you laugh and talk about who got the craziest at work until next game .. And the stands are full some games were standing room only or used to be in the late 70's .. Then in any community function, crises or sickness they all pull together as Christians and you can't tell them apart ..
 

bojack

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Yes! Excellent! You were right on!

They needed to know that being a believer in Yeshua/Jesus is NOT a weak position. It is LOVE with AUTHORITY.

No wonder they couldn’t get enough of you! :giggle::love:(y)

To the forward, God shows Himself forward. Amen!
Thanx, But I think it's more ''give Jesus something to work with'' either way, that Jesus put the fear in them, all I did was be willing to act in faith .. All Glory to God .. I've seen it time and time again in all kinds of ways .. And from the other side when I didn't believe
 

Lucy-Pevensie

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Learn who the Great Harlot is. Then learn who her daughters are. Now learn who is to be (or is) called out of her (and her daughters too.)

Learn the above and yo will have no need to ask the title question.
The idea that Babylon The Great is the Catholic Church is more Biblical commentary than Biblical. It may be an early shadow of the BTG but not the ultimate fulfilment.
 

JaumeJ

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Catholics, remember your church is but one, albeit the largesst, of many denominations. Do not take it personally when people understand the Harlot on seven hills is the RCC,. There are many harlots spawned from her………….....

All in the Savior, Jesus-Yeshua, are family…..do not cling to voted-in doctrines...Listen to our Father.