How would I know, I said they put their pants on like anyone else .. If they did are they greater than the ones needed help and would they truly want the recognition or would they be like Peter when Cornelius fell at his feet to worship him .. I've had people try to thank me as if it wasn't Jesus in me and told them to thank Jesus, If it wasn't for Him I probably wouldn't give 2 shats about them ..
Catholicism vs Protestantism
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I was too Bro, I don't know them from Adam's housecat, why would anybody pray to them when they may have in reality been as bad as these priests today ? Good for them but outside what's written in the Bible I could care less about their history .. I'm sure there were some good ones probably but some could have .............. for all I know .. There's the big difference , If it's not in the Word it don't get in my heart or mind as God .. The RCC has always made up their own rules for their own good forever .. Remember, I don't believe Peter was ever even in Rome and many RCC teachings were never in the Bible ..
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Same as any , I fish for them with patience, overlook insults when I need to and try to win them, when It's over I know and move on.... I started out thinking I had to save everybody but now I realized ''to some we are sent for salvation and to others we are condemnation'', it's their choice .. Like basketball ,I play hard and tenacious but try my best to not foul
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Well perhaps one of the mods could call off the protestant lynch-mob that reared it's ugly head in the other thread?
I don't think the poster in question wants to defend idolatry. But the motives of his heart and his salvation were being judged and ridiculed. And that isn't a proper Christian attitude.
I'm not an apologist for Catholicism btw.
But the very suggestion that Catholics are Christians should not be met with fury and endless lists of all the errors and history of everything the Catholic Church has ever done wrong.
I don't think the poster in question wants to defend idolatry. But the motives of his heart and his salvation were being judged and ridiculed. And that isn't a proper Christian attitude.
I'm not an apologist for Catholicism btw.
But the very suggestion that Catholics are Christians should not be met with fury and endless lists of all the errors and history of everything the Catholic Church has ever done wrong.
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I would think starting with the law of the fathers as oral traditions of men that make God's cared tradition "sola scriptura the word of God" without effect.
It becomes two sources of faith called sacred one of the key words to sell the idea of a law of the fathers .
two different sources. One source salt water. The law of the fathers that they must call apostles succession which destroys the meaning of the word and the living water of the word Scripture. .there written law of the father simply say both are divine and they work together. But we know no man can serve two masters. The oral traditions of the fathers and God's sacred tradition as it is written.
I would think the nerve of the written law of the fathers (verse #80) That the pew Catholic must abide. a very dark place.
The fathers even added the idea of a sacred tradition of corrupted mankind as first in order what they call divine order sacred scripture, becomes under the feet of the fathers .
Puffing up the apostles a succession of fleshly men above that which is written rejecting the faith that comes as it is written in the bible .And not their own private book.The book of the law of the fathers .
God knew that beforehand that Satan needed a body to sell his lies and the Holy Spirit gave us his understanding that no man can serve two masters .the things of men the temporal and those of God the eternal. Peter the Catholics choice their personal Holy Father, Holy See, High priest learned that lesson the hard way in Mathew 16
1 Corinthians 4:6 And these things, brethren, I have in a figure transferred to myself and to Apollos for your sakes; that ye might learn in us not to think of men above that which is written, that no one of you be puffed up for one against another.
They simply must ignore that warning to the believers showing others they seek the approval of men and things that come with corrupted mankind .
The Catholic book of the sacred law, reads verse 80 ..... . 80" "Sacred Tradition and Sacred Scripture, then, are bound closely together, and communicate one with the other. For both of them, flowing out from the same divine well-spring, come together in some fashion to form one thing, and move towards the same goal."
James 3:12 Can the fig tree, my brethren, bear olive berries? either a vine, figs? so can no fountain both yield salt water and fresh.
Sola scriptura, God's witness is the reforming authority in any generation or family matter. whenever two or three are gather under his name as it is written he is their working with them. Catholicism simply wear a ashy sign of the cross on their forehead to support the law of the fathers. They do it proudly some more humbly as it is written a picture of the gospel to the world, of our living hope.
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You start with Jesus. Because they believe in Jesus. We have that in common. Protestants need to acknowledge that.
If you start by trying to show them all the errors of Catholic practice you're likely to just hit a wall of resistance.
Don't forget people were raised from early childhood with all these things. The Holy Spirit convicts when the time is right
If you start by trying to show them all the errors of Catholic practice you're likely to just hit a wall of resistance.
Don't forget people were raised from early childhood with all these things. The Holy Spirit convicts when the time is right
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The way you would evangelize any person, no different
Knowing their faulty dogma is important... however, thinking they acknowledge Jesus as God or Saviour as being is helpful, is more often a barrier than any kind of common ground.
Each person has a different level of understanding .... however, most often, the more knowledge, and being entrenched into their false dogma the more difficult.
Typical of people entrenched in "religion"
Knowing their faulty dogma is important... however, thinking they acknowledge Jesus as God or Saviour as being is helpful, is more often a barrier than any kind of common ground.
Each person has a different level of understanding .... however, most often, the more knowledge, and being entrenched into their false dogma the more difficult.
Typical of people entrenched in "religion"
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I would agree they can be the generous and loving group. Only God can see into the hearts of all men.
I have asked many times when I did participate in a Catholic Protestant discussion board (10 plus years) .Who is it that forbids them from seeking the approval of God according to loving commandment of his living word ? Or was it just a suggestion?
2 Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
Who told them they can only seek their succession of father's approval , the temporal as that seen ?
I would suggest if a person wishes to discuss where the rubber meets His highWay. we do it carefully defending the faith of Christ that works in us as the armor of God with prayer.
Sola scripture, all things written in the law and prophets the two witnesses of God working as one. The reforming, restoring authority of any generation or denomination . Rather than obeying God or hearing God they must seek the approval of their fathers.Much prayer is needed.
Sure that will work.
1. View yourself as superior
2. Focus on perceived faulty dogma rather than Jesus Christ.
3. View yourself as superior
Let me fix that for you. Catholics are already Christians.
Speak to them on the essential core beliefs of Christianity where they are in agreement with the other denominations.
Respect them as fellow believers. If you can't do that, you should repent.
1. View yourself as superior
2. Focus on perceived faulty dogma rather than Jesus Christ.
3. View yourself as superior
Let me fix that for you. Catholics are already Christians.
Speak to them on the essential core beliefs of Christianity where they are in agreement with the other denominations.
Respect them as fellow believers. If you can't do that, you should repent.
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I believe all who love God and hold to the eternal promise of hope in Christ will be in Heaven. That would include Catholics. Not all mind you who attached that Denomination to themselves. Because as we know there are some truly ruthless people who will also claim they ascribe to a faith. However, all who love God in Jesus Christ are known by God. And God knows a great deal more than we who think to judge for him that Catholics are not in His light.
I think it best if those of us who do that recall that God shall judge us for that. Worry about our own souls, not those of others. Nor judge those one thinks are not worthy of the Lamb. Because in doing so, in my opinion, one then makes themselves appear so.
God has never needed our help. God believes in us.
I think it best if those of us who do that recall that God shall judge us for that. Worry about our own souls, not those of others. Nor judge those one thinks are not worthy of the Lamb. Because in doing so, in my opinion, one then makes themselves appear so.
God has never needed our help. God believes in us.
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Already Christians could be stretching ?.
The Bible informs us there must be heresies, another world for denomination as those who share similar private interpretations as personal commentaries among us who do walk by faith the unseen . We can share our opinions called heresy with judgement with the exception to one. That which does despite to the grace of God making the fullness thereof without effect. In the end blasphemy. .
The catholic fathers by making the strange woman (natural unconverted mankind) the Holy Mother of Mercy the exclusive one having her alone to be filled will the fullness of grace .While the rest of the creation gets a unknown remnant of grace and have another unknown time of suffering that must be performed with a unknown amount of pain .
That philosophy, not theology of men simply does despite the the fullness of "Christ grace". He does not give unknown remnants and say your on you own . . ask Mother Mary she as Queen of heaven is full.
That kind I would think we could judge as to the need of the light of the gospel . It must be very dark. The suffering so intent that they beat themselves with whips, sleep on rocks suffer to the point of death and a continuation in what they call purgatory for another unknown . . .
2 Peter 2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
1 Corinthians 11:19 For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you.
Hebrews 10:29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?
The Bible informs us there must be heresies, another world for denomination as those who share similar private interpretations as personal commentaries among us who do walk by faith the unseen . We can share our opinions called heresy with judgement with the exception to one. That which does despite to the grace of God making the fullness thereof without effect. In the end blasphemy. .
The catholic fathers by making the strange woman (natural unconverted mankind) the Holy Mother of Mercy the exclusive one having her alone to be filled will the fullness of grace .While the rest of the creation gets a unknown remnant of grace and have another unknown time of suffering that must be performed with a unknown amount of pain .
That philosophy, not theology of men simply does despite the the fullness of "Christ grace". He does not give unknown remnants and say your on you own . . ask Mother Mary she as Queen of heaven is full.
That kind I would think we could judge as to the need of the light of the gospel . It must be very dark. The suffering so intent that they beat themselves with whips, sleep on rocks suffer to the point of death and a continuation in what they call purgatory for another unknown . . .
2 Peter 2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
1 Corinthians 11:19 For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you.
Hebrews 10:29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?
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I believe all who love God and hold to the eternal promise of hope in Christ will be in Heaven. That would include Catholics. Not all mind you who attached that Denomination to themselves. Because as we know there are some truly ruthless people who will also claim they ascribe to a faith. However, all who love God in Jesus Christ are known by God. And God knows a great deal more than we who think to judge for him that Catholics are not in His light.
I think it best if those of us who do that recall that God shall judge us for that. Worry about our own souls, not those of others. Nor judge those one thinks are not worthy of the Lamb. Because in doing so, in my opinion, one then makes themselves appear so.
God has never needed our help. God believes in us.
I think it best if those of us who do that recall that God shall judge us for that. Worry about our own souls, not those of others. Nor judge those one thinks are not worthy of the Lamb. Because in doing so, in my opinion, one then makes themselves appear so.
God has never needed our help. God believes in us.
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