Dr. Birx and Dr Fauci should be fired for fear-mongering

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Nehemiah6

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These two so called experts are now throwing out number like 100,000 to 200,000 deaths from the Wuhan virus when so many measures have been put in place to reduce contact and also to provide effective drugs. Dr. Zelenko has been having almost a 100% success rate with his combination of drugs. They should be immediately fired and replaced with Dr. Ben Carson, a Christian, a renowned surgeon, and a calm man who would speak the truth.

UPDATE: Dr. Zelenko Has Now Treated 699 Coronavirus Patients with 100% SUCCESS RATE -- Using Hydroxychloroquine, Zinc and Z-Pak

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...rate-using-hydroxychloroquine-zinc-and-z-pak/

Now if you want the truth about deaths in the states, here are the latest numbers from Johns Hopkins interactive website (which is accessible to anyone):

MONTANA -- ZERO DEATHS
NORTH DAKOTA -- ZERO DEATHS
WYOMING -- ZERO DEATHS
NEBRASKA -- ZERO DEATHS

WEST VIRGINA -- ZERO DEATHS
ALASKA -- ZERO DEATHS
HAWAII -- ZERO DEATHS
UTAH -- 1 DEATH
MAINE - 1 DEATH
NEW HAMPSHIRE - 1 DEATH
NEW MEXICO - 1 DEATH
ALABAMA - 1 DEATH
IDAHO - 3 DEATHS
IOWA - 3 DEATHS
MISSISSIPPI - 3 DEATHS

In view of this those doctors who have been undermining Trump should be sent home and their mouths should be quarantined. That goes for the mainstream media also.

BTW Belarus (near Russia) has announced that it will not have any shut downs, and that people should continue drinking vodka and enjoying themselves!
 
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Correct evolving DATA OF THE DEAD AT THE START OF THE UPWARD EXPONENTIALLY GROWING CURVE

MONTANA -- ZERO DEATHS FOUR
NORTH DAKOTA -- ZERO DEATHS TWO
WYOMING -- ZERO DEATHS
NEBRASKA -- ZERO DEATHS TW0
WEST VIRGINA -- ZERO DEATHS ONE
ALASKA -- ZERO DEATHS TWO
HAWAII -- ZERO DEATHS
UTAH -- 1 DEATH THREE
MAINE - 1 DEATH THREE
NEW HAMPSHIRE - 1 DEATH TWO
NEW MEXICO - 1 DEATH TWO
ALABAMA - 1 DEATH NINE
IDAHO - 3 DEATHS SIX
IOWA - 3 DEATHS SIX
MISSISSIPPI - 3 DEATHS SIXTEEN
 
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New York 67,325 +6,646 1,342 DEAD today +279
 

Nehemiah6

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Correct evolving DATA OF THE DEAD AT THE START OF THE UPWARD EXPONENTIALLY GROWING CURVE
Mississippi has 14 NOT 16 deaths.
Montana has 1 death NOT 4
Check out the interactive map as of March 30,2020.

I am not going to bother fixing all your other numbers. You are either over-inflating numbers for your own evil agenda (which is fear-mongering), or you are not using the Johns Hopkins interactive map.

THERE ARE ONLY 2,486 DEATHS IN ALL OF THE USA. NOT 248,600!

Drs. Birx and Fauci are simply throwing out WILD GUESSES in order to create worrY, fear, and panic. And no Christian should be supporting their evil agenda. There is no EXPONENTIAL GROWTH CURVE!
 
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Mississippi has 14 NOT 16 deaths.
Montana has 1 death NOT 4
Check out the interactive map as of March 30,2020.

I am not going to bother fixing all your other numbers. You are either over-inflating numbers for your own evil agenda (which is fear-mongering), or you are not using the Johns Hopkins interactive map.

THERE ARE ONLY 2,486 DEATHS IN ALL OF THE USA. NOT 248,600!
Drs. Birx and Fauci are simply throwing out WILD GUESSES in order to create worrY, fear, and panic. And no Christian should be supporting their evil agenda. There is no EXPONENTIAL GROWTH CURVE!
Wrong

WorldoMeters more up to date than John Hopkins and they post their source so it can be confirmed

Mississippi has had 16 deaths, confirmed by their own website.

https://msdh.ms.gov/msdhsite/_static/14,0,420.html#Mississippi

Nothing you have posted is even close to factual on any thread

I find it completely laughable you deny the exponential growth of this virus already proven by the data in Italy and a simple Excel spreadsheet which I have ....

You deny basic science and math of this virus to protect an idol it seems

WILD GUESSES
completely bizarre

.......like living in the "dark ages" (metaphor) when no one understood plagues and the rich escaped to the country side leaving the poor to die in the gutters.
 
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These two so called experts are now throwing out number like 100,000 to 200,000 deaths from the Wuhan virus when so many measures have been put in place to reduce contact and also to provide effective drugs. Dr. Zelenko has been having almost a 100% success rate with his combination of drugs. They should be immediately fired and replaced with Dr. Ben Carson, a Christian, a renowned surgeon, and a calm man who would speak the truth.

UPDATE: Dr. Zelenko Has Now Treated 699 Coronavirus Patients with 100% SUCCESS RATE -- Using Hydroxychloroquine, Zinc and Z-Pak

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...rate-using-hydroxychloroquine-zinc-and-z-pak/

Now if you want the truth about deaths in the states, here are the latest numbers from Johns Hopkins interactive website (which is accessible to anyone):

MONTANA -- ZERO DEATHS
NORTH DAKOTA -- ZERO DEATHS
WYOMING -- ZERO DEATHS
NEBRASKA -- ZERO DEATHS

WEST VIRGINA -- ZERO DEATHS
ALASKA -- ZERO DEATHS
HAWAII -- ZERO DEATHS
UTAH -- 1 DEATH
MAINE - 1 DEATH
NEW HAMPSHIRE - 1 DEATH
NEW MEXICO - 1 DEATH
ALABAMA - 1 DEATH
IDAHO - 3 DEATHS
IOWA - 3 DEATHS
MISSISSIPPI - 3 DEATHS

In view of this those doctors who have been undermining Trump should be sent home and their mouths should be quarantined. That goes for the mainstream media also.

BTW Belarus (near Russia) has announced that it will not have any shut downs, and that people should continue drinking vodka and enjoying themselves!
Say what in the states you only mentioned 15 that’s a little cherry picking, to push should be fired, we will see after a few more months if the meds help curb the deaths, that may or may not happen, if it turns out it does then yes there will be far less deaths.

Montana has 4 from corona that have been tested to actually be infected with coronavirus could have been more they were not testing for it until recently,

I don’t believe the outbreak started in late dec. 2019 a few months off I suspect.
FALSE.

59,568 CONFIRMED CASES AND ONLY 965 TOTAL DEATHS.
where you getting your info, a couple of days ago those where the numbers not today.
 
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Of the fifty two are without deaths, Hawaii and Wyoming, you posted a old report
 
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Wrong

WorldoMeters more up to date than John Hopkins and they post their source so it can be confirmed

Mississippi has had 16 deaths, confirmed by their own website.

https://msdh.ms.gov/msdhsite/_static/14,0,420.html#Mississippi

Nothing you have posted is even close to factual on any thread

I find it completely laughable you deny the exponential growth of this virus already proven by the data in Italy and a simple Excel spreadsheet which I have ....

You deny basic science and math of this virus to protect an idol it seems



completely bizarre

.......like living in the "dark ages" (metaphor) when no one understood plagues and the rich escaped to the country side leaving the poor to die in the gutters.
Yea he posted only 15 states and old reports, the agenda here is cherry picking who does that only post the lowest reported stats then say hey lookie here the numbers are low I find that bizarre.
 
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Yea he posted only 15 states and old reports, the agenda here is cherry picking who does that only post the lowest reported stats then say hey lookie here the numbers are low I find that bizarre.
Denouncing facts and science, but lets trust politicians.

What a time to be alive!! LOL
 

gb9

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Denouncing facts and science, but lets trust politicians.

What a time to be alive!! LOL
here is something current- in ga, there has been , very sadly, 128 deaths.

of those, only 5 have died from the virus that have not had any underlying conditions, with the vast majority of the others being people over the age of 70 with underlying conditions .

so, it is also safe to say that a lot of those would have also passed away if they had got the regular flu, or pneumonia , or bronchitis , or any other serious infection that would normally be bad news for an elderly person in bad health.

just some context for the numbers.
 
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so, it is also safe to say that a lot of those would have also passed away if they had got the regular flu, or pneumonia , or bronchitis ,
No this definitely is not true by any means.
We have antibiotics to treat pneumonia caused by a flu.

This is an inflammation of the lungs caused by the virus, antibiotics can not treat this virus.
 
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Hmm today I heard a aircraft carrier in the open sea has coronavirus cases how does that happen and China has it under control, are they lying or something else, it’s getting odd how it’s popping up everywhere yet no other place in China has it but two cities I’m not buying that.
 

gb9

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No this definitely is not true by any means.
We have antibiotics to treat pneumonia caused by a flu.

This is an inflammation of the lungs caused by the virus, antibiotics can not treat this virus.
so, you are saying that elderly people do not typically pass away from those things??

any type of serious viral infection can be fatal for elderly people in bad health.

this virus seems to be more so, but is unclear exactly how much.
 
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so, you are saying that elderly people do not typically pass away from those things??

any type of serious viral infection can be fatal for elderly people in bad health.

this virus seems to be more so, but is unclear exactly how much.
Regular flu leads to bacterial pneumonia because of the fluid sitting in the lungs where bacteria will grow, this is treated with antibiotics, typically in one section of the lung only.

This SARS virus causes the lungs to become inflamed so that breathing is difficult, the virus itself attacks the lung tissues
The damage is spread out throughout the entire lung.
This cannot be treated with antibiotics, that is why people need ventilators and they stay on them for along time.

Elderly by their very nature of being older have a weaker immune system, generally after 70 our immune system begins to decline more rapidly.
 
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Regular flu leads to bacterial pneumonia because of the fluid sitting in the lungs where bacteria will grow, this is treated with antibiotics, typically in one section of the lung only.

This SARS virus causes the lungs to become inflamed so that breathing is difficult, the virus itself attacks the lung tissues
The damage is spread out throughout the entire lung.
This cannot be treated with antibiotics, that is why people need ventilators and they stay on them for along time.

Elderly by their very nature of being older have a weaker immune system, generally after 70 our immune system begins to decline more rapidly.
There’s been reports it can take out 30% of lung production that is not reversible even with mild symptoms I’ve read, I don’t know if SARS did that but this virus is stealthy and dangerous
 
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There’s been reports it can take out 30% of lung production that is not reversible even with mild symptoms I’ve read, I don’t know if SARS did that but this virus is stealthy and dangerous
This is a SARS virus.

The first was far more deadly but not as transmissible this one less deadly but high rate of transmission.

The actual name of this virus is SARS CoVid - 2
 
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This is a SARS virus.

The first was far more deadly but not as transmissible this one less deadly but high rate of transmission.

The actual name of this virus is SARS CoVid - 2
right I mean it’s happening also with this virus, I know it’s in the same family of viruses like the common flu is a type of corona virus. this site says don’t no how long the effect will last but lung damage usually doesn’t repair,

scar tissue I think that is what is left after having coughs and chest pains etc yet not server enough to be hospitalize, the virus has hooks that latch on to tissue probably creating a scar that doesn’t heal I assume pure guess on that one lol.

https://www.sciencealert.com/even-t...ona-can-be-left-gasping-for-breath-afterwards
 
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As of now just having the virus can be life changing rather mild or not, simple breathing might be for ever changed. mine has I was vaping about six months ago and got something that still hasn’t healed doubt it will though that is my fault for vaping. then again I wonder about all those lung infections with vaping about 5 months ago isn’t a lot of that stuff made in China.