Not By Works

[EleventhHour]

SDA doctrine

SDA?

 

[walknlight]

Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, EVEN AS HE is righteous.
(1Jn 3:7 KJV)

Ever get tired of "piece mealing" scripture?
It must be exhausting.

Keep 1 John in context.

How was he righteous?

1John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
1John 2:23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.
1John 2:24 Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father.
1John 2:25 And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life.

Hint.... Jesus said at one time " He doeth the work"

Holy Spirit does "the work" through man.
1John 2:20 But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things.

Holy Spirit does "the work" through man. Not man in and of himself, that's the flesh "doing"

Who was He?

I told ya - Holy Spirit.

 

[walknlight]

It proves he loves her.

Exactly, that's how The Father loves us. Agape.

 

[preacher4truth]

So now the argument is not that I have made a statement that you bring strife and that you said they are false . It’s now I need to look for a safe space from your and your SDA doctrine. Interring . This statement goes to prove that what you stated that I made a false accusations about you are false , or better put you lied 🤥 .
P.S. Oh I can’t stand crayons 🖍 more of a pen and ink guy .
Bill

I was not aware he is SDA.

 

[Phoneman-777]

So now the argument is not that I have made a statement that you bring strife and that you said they are false . It’s now I need to look for a safe space from your and your SDA doctrine. Interring . This statement goes to prove that what you stated that I made a false accusations about you are false , or better put you lied 🤥 .
P.S. Oh I can’t stand crayons 🖍 more of a pen and ink guy .
Bill

Bro, when you post irrefutable truth, carnal feathers are bound to get ruffled. I'm only a problem for those who take exception to what I believe because I slaughter their logic with the Sword of truth. The only ones complaining are the OSAS folks. IMAGINE THAT!

 

[Lightskin]

So you believe "formerly forgiven" is an oxymoron?

You said formally saved, not formally forgiven.

 

[Lightskin]

You still ain't gettin it. I'm no more "flippant" in my criticism of OSAS as any other is of Conditional Salvation.

Now when it comes to showing respect, tell me who mostly keeps his cool and who does all the insulting, posting facepalms, mocking laughter, etc.? How about a little objectivity, please?

I look forward to being proven wrong as time goes by and will definitely apologize.

 

[EleventhHour]

Bro, when you post irrefutable truth, carnal feathers are bound to get ruffled. I'm only a problem for those who take exception to what I believe because I slaughter their logic with the Sword of truth. The only ones complaining are the OSAS folks. IMAGINE THAT!

Are you Seventh Day Adventist?

I slaughter their logic with the Sword of truth.

More funny.....

 

[Phoneman-777]

SDA?

For years...we hold from the Bible that the saints can fall from grace.

 

[walknlight]

You mean satan. I understand your displeasure and lack of any real content. His spirit in you must be a terrible thing to deal with. Give yourself to God and His Son Jesus Christ and He will rid you of your demon.

Child of the devil actually. Sad
You should call all your cohorts. Call them by name; Legion

This is how you draw people to Christ?

 

[Phoneman-777]

You said formally saved, not formally forgiven.

It's want I meant to say.
Let's say the saints are able to fall away and be lost...does that bother you, and if so, why?

 

[EleventhHour]

For years...we hold from the Bible that the saints can fall from grace.

Not a straight answer ... listen I will not hold it against you.. just gives a reference point

btw ... falling from grace is not loosing salvation.. that is speaking to our practical experience of our union with God

You have lots to learn

 

[Phoneman-777]

Are you Seventh Day Adventist?



More funny.....

C'mon, darlin, you know it's true. I totally picked apart your claim that Matthew 24:13 is referring to "physical life during the tribulation" by showing you the context of 13 is established in 12, which is spiritual life. The enduring that we must accomplish is spiritual endurance, not trying to save our skins.

 

[Bbrdrd]

As I said, it’s easy to see why living peaceably requires work for you. Doesn’t make you good, bad or indifferent. It simply is.

Are you saying you've never had a situation where someone has commited some injustice against you and you had to swallow your pride and accept that there is injustice for the sake of peace? Seems to me that this would be a universal experience, but you're so saintly that you do it without even a smidge of worldliness. Who is it that is acting like they don't sin, exactly?

 

[azamzimtoti]

SDA?

Nooooooo, say it ain't so.

 

[EleventhHour]

So is there life outside of the Not By Works thread???

I would not know, I have been here all day!

 

[Phoneman-777]

btw ... falling from grace is not loosing salvation..

If we're not in God's grace,then where does that leave us?

 

[VCO]

I believe you genuinely believe what you believe in good conscience before God. Both sides believe that they are right which is why the responses can be so strong. I just hope that your doctrinal persuasion came from an honest pure reading of scripture and not by man.

God bless!

Thanks for you input.
But the other side is mostly contend with telling LIES about what We Believe, or Rumors.

Proverbs 14:25 (HCSB)
25 A truthful witness rescues lives, but one who utters lies is deceitful.

Micah 6:12 (HCSB)
12 For the wealthy of the city are full of violence, and its residents speak lies; the tongues in their mouths are deceitful.


So to ASSUME you know what someone teaches, without checking in with that Person, and blurting OUT those falsehoods, as IT THE WERE TRUE, is just plain UNCHRISTIAN. It seems they are so ANXIOUS to PUT DOWN OSAS that they just do not care if it is true or NOT.

For example, I know you are pretty much on the opposite side of the Fence on this issue, than I am, but I think we could have a disagreement, and we could just agree to disagree, without it becoming a Major issue. I cannot tell you how often some one just on this thread, has HURLED at me, "Your OSAS Beliefs are of SATAN or Antichrist." And it is OBVIOUS that they do not KNOW what they are talking about."

 

[EleventhHour]

C'mon, darlin, you know it's true. I totally picked apart your claim that Matthew 24:13 is referring to "physical life during the tribulation" by showing you the context of 13 is established in 12, which is spiritual life. The enduring that we must accomplish is spiritual endurance, not trying to save our skins.

More funny...

Again avoiding the question!

 

[VCO]

I believe you genuinely believe what you believe in good conscience before God. Both sides believe that they are right which is why the responses can be so strong. I just hope that your doctrinal persuasion came from an honest pure reading of scripture and not by man.

God bless!

I believe that my Doctrinal Position, is absolutely confirmed by the HOLY SPIRIT in me.