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dcontroversal

dcontroversal

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Jesus Christ is much more than a man.

Isaiah 7:14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.

Matthew 1:22-23 Now all this took place to fulfill what was spoken by the Lord through the prophet: "BEHOLD, THE VIRGIN SHALL BE WITH CHILD AND SHALL BEAR A SON, AND THEY SHALL CALL HIS NAME IMMANUEL," which translated means, "GOD WITH US.

He died, was buried and arose from the dead to save us from our sins and to give us eternal life. He was God in the flesh come down to save His creation.
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100% agree, but we cannot deny his humanity as the son of man.... :)
 
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ChristWhoLivesInMe

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Hevosmies said:
Objection! Thats not election! Thats arminianism which I DONT AGREE WITH!

Its nothing IN US that causes God to choose us.
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I understand that we are not chosen for good works. As no one can do or be good without Christ.
eternally-gratefull said:
Well they could boast of them, yes, like the non believer or the person who thinks their works saves or maintains their salvation do, But they could also praise God that they have the opportunity to do them. and work out the lve that God has shown to them in grace and mercy, like other TRUE believers do.


Your bordering on slander, Get off your high horse and for once do not be like so many who came before you and never listen to what people are saying, Stop assuming you know.


It seems you have utterly no comprehension of what I believe or teach, and are just making a strawman argument,


No he only teaches those who have true living faith, he rejects those who reject him, Mere belief in him is the same as rejecting him. (and if you had been reading my posts you would see I ust used that same passage to prove true believers work)

Those who have true living faith do work, Matt 25 is giving you a characteristic of true faith people vs no faith people.

As john said, he who believes is not condemned, he who does not believe is condemned ALREADY.
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No high horse sir. You all contradict the Bible, or each other so much. I can tell, this is not a place for a new Christian.

Just because someone ask a question doesn't mean they are slandering. That was never even in my mind or in my heart. I am just trying to understand and learn. I ask questions when what you are saying and what I read in the Bible contradict, or I don't have a clear understanding of what you are saying compared to what the Bible says.
 
DJ3

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mailmandan said:
I see that you like to attack and judge OSAS believers. I also see that you have an uncertain hope. Now why don't you explain to the rest of us what YOU believe the Gospel of Jesus Christ IS and also what YOU believe it means to BELIEVE the Gospel? (Romans 1:16)
"I see that you like to attack and judge OSAS believers"

If your highlighted quotes are the proof-text of my "attack and judgement" than you are much too thinned skinned to be on an adult forum. I would suggest a simpler forum with less freedom of thought there are many to choose from, just google easily offended. BTW you have posted much worse.

" I also see that you have an uncertain hope."

No, my hope rather specific.

Now why don't you explain to the rest of us what YOU believe the Gospel of Jesus Christ IS and also what YOU believe it means to BELIEVE the Gospel? (Romans 1:16)

Of course. As Romans 1:16 states, it is the power of God that is used to bring the Jews first and later the Gentiles into salvation. Regardless of our sensibilities, God's order was Jews first then gentiles. On the issue of what it means to believe, Jesus states:
"Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;" John 8:31 KJV
Believing the gospel is obeying the gospel. We may differ in what is to be obeyed but not the need to obey.

On the your question of my former avatar being DJ2? I have been DJ3 since June of 2019 but I am certainly DJ2 as the exact pelican picture is being used.

I hope this answers your questions.
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VCO

VCO

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dcontroversal said:
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100% agree, but we cannot deny his humanity as the son of man.... :)
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Good News and Bad News:




miknik5,

has left the thread abruptly.

BAD NEWS

She landed on my Temple News thread and started to argue with me,
So I Warned Her, and gave her my first official WARNING.

Titus 3:10-11 (NIV)
10 Warn a divisive person once, and then warn him a second time. After that, have nothing to do with him.
11 You may be sure that such a man is warped and sinful; he is self-condemned.


Yet another person ADDICTED to agruments.
 
Lightskin

Lightskin

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ChristWhoLivesInMe said:
I understand that we are not chosen for good works. As no one can do or be good without Christ.

No high horse sir. You all contradict the Bible, or each other so much. I can tell, this is not a place for a new Christian.

Just because someone ask a question doesn't mean they are slandering. That was never even in my mind or in my heart. I am just trying to understand and learn. I ask questions when what you are saying and what I read in the Bible contradict, or I don't have a clear understanding of what you are saying compared to what the Bible says.
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You went back to 2019
 
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EleventhHour

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VCO said:
Good News and Bad News:




miknik5,

has left the thread abruptly.

BAD NEWS

She landed on my Temple News thread and started to argue with me,
So I Warned Her, and gave her my first official WARNING.

Titus 3:10-11 (NIV)
10 Warn a divisive person once, and then warn him a second time. After that, have nothing to do with him.
11 You may be sure that such a man is warped and sinful; he is self-condemned.


Yet another person ADDICTED to agruments.
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VCO you are funny!!
Enjoy being schooled :D
 
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Bbrdrd

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eternally-gratefull said:
I hear you, I left because they kept feeding the trolls, so Ed emailed me and showed me some new people where here so I came hoping. Could do some good, i hope i have, but not sure..I probably will not be here long myself
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I enjoyed our exchanges and grew because of them. Helped me hear God re-confirming an old truth I stray from.
 
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