Why Millennialism Remains.
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I’m not getting off course. I’ve refuted this many times. Let’s stick with the kingdom discussion.
The world ends during his attack.Yes, he attacks the future physical kingdom on earth. You’re finally coming around.
John 18
35 Pilate answered, Am I a Jew? Thine own nation and the chief priests have delivered thee unto me: what hast thou done?
36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.
Do you see that? Now is my kingdom not from here. It was, but no longer because his own nation rejected him and delivered him up. The spiritual kingdom would be built up from mostly Gentiles. When the fullness of the Gentiles be come in, the Lord resumes His physical program with His physical people Israel. Their physical promises included land. There’s a reason their land has been a battleground from Genesis 12 to the present and will continue to be until Revelation 20.
Dave, why do you continue to post on subjects for which you have no understanding? Since the Kingdom of God DID NOT ARRIVE at the time of the Roman empire, it is obvious that Daniel was saying no such thing.
If you don't like the Millennium, you can ask the Lord Jesus Christ right now to shut you out of it. It is that simple.
Probably because he has no clue that the LXX was THOROUGHLY CORRUPTED. And every non-canonical book was added to it to increase the corruption.
The Millennium a unknown amount of time. We walk by faith the unseen time period ,
The kingdom of God is in the new creature. We have that power in us. It as it is written is simply not of us. lest any falsely boast as a evil. We are the temporal new temples. In the new order no need of a temple. The old as a abomination of desolation lost it power to deceive all the nation when the veil was rent.
It has nothing to do with Rome and some fleshly battle 70 years later. The time of reformation marks the beginning of the last days .A great tribulation one like never before or ever again
Jesus' coming is a perfect fulfillment of Nebuchadnezzar's dream in Daniel 2. Perhaps you see that differently.
The Roman Empire was not the final beast kingdom. The final beast kingdom, the kingdom which in the idol of man is the toes, partly iron and partly clay, partly strong and partly weak, is still to emerge. This final kingdom is described in Daniel 11 as being two kingdoms, North and South, that war with eachother and falsely unify by lies. Just as iron does not mix with clay, so the two kingdoms that make up the final kingdom of lies, shall not cleave to eachother.
Actually Daniel saw it differently also. So let's go back to Daniel 2:35:
Then was the iron, the clay, the brass, the silver, and the gold, broken to pieces together, and became like the chaff of the summer threshing floors; and the wind carried them away, that no place was found for them: and the Stone that smote the image became a great mountain, and filled the whole earth.
What is this metaphorical stone, and how did it become a great mountain filling the whole earth? It is quite clear that this verse is speaking about the destruction of all the kingdoms of the world, and the establishment of the Kingdom of God (the Great Mountain) on earth under Christ (who is the Stone, and the Rock). Babylon (gold) was succeeded by Medo-Persia (silver), which was succeeded by Greece (brass), which was succeeded by Rome (iron).
Clay (mixed with iron) represents the nations of the former Roman empire ( all the countries surrounding the Mediterranean). But the wind did not carry them away in the first century. The Roman and then the Byzantine empires remained on earth until the 15th century. And then the Holy Roman Empire remained until the 19th century.
However, Daniel saw Christ establishing His future Kingdom on earth (which includes the Millennium) as follows (Dan 7:13,14) and this will happen after the Second Coming of Christ:
I [Daniel] saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of Man [Christ] came with the clouds of Heaven, and came to the Ancient of Days [God the Father], and they brought Him [Christ] near before Him. And there was given Him dominion, and glory, and a Kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: His dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his Kingdom that which shall not be destroyed.
Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen. (Rev 1:7) [Note: In both passages *clouds* represent the clouds of saints and angels which will surround Christ at His Second Coming.]
Read Daniel. Christ's kingdom was to arrive during the time of the Roman Empire. It did but the spiritually blind continue to look for it. Even rewriting scripture in their blindness.
Jesus was taking David's throne in heaven in his resurrection. The whole world is now David's kingdom as foretold.
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Jesus was cut off his time was cut off. His time will be fulfilled in the millennium.
You don't rule with a rod of iron in the spiritual. The earth is to be restored read Isaiah.
Go back and read what John the Baptist preached.
The deserts become lush and waters will flow.
It's all physical not spiritual.