How many of you believe COVID 19 is a biological weapon?

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Is COVID 19 a biological weapon?

  • Yes

    Votes: 19 59.4%
  • No

    Votes: 13 40.6%

  • Total voters
    32

KhedetOrthos

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I do not think it was intentionally released. I think via the Chinese incompetence it escaped from their labs by accident, and because oriental cultures tend to encourage lying in order to maintain face (appearances), they will just never admit it, nor allow investigation, even if it was just a mere accident.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wuhan_Institute_of_Virology
 
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EleventhHour

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Roughsoul1991

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Why not "'If No list evidence and Credible sources..."" Seems like you're level of suppot for one positon is very high while the other positon requiors now backign at all..

Anyway here is a report dealing putting forward arguments as to why it may be a biological weapon..

Nope just asking. Assuming my thoughts has nothing to do with the question.
 

Roughsoul1991

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Why not "'If No list evidence and Credible sources..."" Seems like you're level of suppot for one positon is very high while the other positon requiors now backign at all..

Anyway here is a report dealing putting forward arguments as to why it may be a biological weapon..

I saw this the other day which contains many of the stories that have been circulating. Good documentary as far as I can tell. Granted I haven't checked his sources or cross examined his evidence.
 

Roughsoul1991

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Read these articles...there really is no question at this point that this virus was engineered and did not evolve naturally. The only remaining question is whether it was released intentionally.

A Logical and Technical Exploration Into the Origin of Wuhan Coronavirus

The Covid-19 Pandemic and Gain of Function Research
I was first skeptical but the more that is released. I am pretty much convinced. Just waiting for the officials or our government to say it.
 

Adstar

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From what i have heard.. It was not an intentional release but an accadental release from the Lab.. This scenaro conformes more to the outcome..

To have a succesful biological warfare weapon you must first genetically engineer the new and deadly virus and then before you can use that weapon you must develop a vaccine.. So you can imunise your own people against the contagin and then release the virus upon your enemy..

Seems that the Chinese had not yet developed the vaccine for this weapon..

Also the vaccine seems to have been engineered to kill elderly people and people with chronic health conditions like diabetes and asthma.. So it seems the virus may have been engineered to wipe out the second of the population that cost the Communist Party of China government the biggest tax burden.. Evey retiree who dies lessens by 1 the number of people you need to pay a pension too.. And every person who dies who as a chronic health problem is one less person as a burden on your national health system..

China with it's one child policy that was active for about 40 years (( not sure if i am accurate with the 40 years figure if not someone correct me)) this policy has created a demographic time bomb for China where they do not have enough young tax payers to support the very large retiring population..

So maybe this virus was designed by the CCP to attack it's own population.. It would be also interesting to see how many of the elders in the Chinese politburo and other governing elites have died from contracting this disease?? As far as i have heard none of the elderly elites of China have died.. So maybe they have a vaccine that they have given to their political elites???

Anyway this virus seems to be way to well targeted to a specific demographic to be just a natural virus..
 
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EleventhHour

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From what i have heard.. It was not an intentional release but an accadental release from the Lab.. This scenaro conformes more to the outcome..

To have a succesful biological warfare weapon you must first genetically engineer the new and deadly virus and then before you can use that weapon you must develop a vaccine.. So you can imunise your own people against the contagin and then release the virus upon your enemy..

Seems that the Chinese had not yet developed the vaccine for this weapon..

Also the vaccine seems to have been engineered to kill elderly people and people with chronic health conditions like diabetes and asthma.. So it seems the virus may have been engineered to wipe out the second of the population that cost the Communist Party of China government the biggest tax burden.. Evey retiree who dies lessens by 1 the number of people you need to pay a pension too.. And every person who dies who as a chronic health problem is one less person as a burden on your national health system..

China with it's one child policy that was active for about 40 years (( not sure if i am accurate with the 40 years figure if not someone correct me)) this policy has created a demographic time bomb for China where they do not have enough young tax payers to support the very large retiring population..

So maybe this virus was designed by the CCP to attack it's own population.. It would be also interesting to see how many of the elders in the Chinese politburo and other governing elites have died from contracting this disease?? As far as i have heard none of the elderly elites of China have died.. So maybe they have a vaccine that they have given to their political elites???

Anyway this virus seems to be way to well targeted to a specific demographic to be just a natural virus..
That only works if no on travels out of China...so I have to wonder if that was the purpose.

Also any virus will hit those with a weakened immune system harder so did not have to be engineered to do that.
 
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EleventhHour

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I was first skeptical but the more that is released. I am pretty much convinced. Just waiting for the officials or our government to say it.
I doubt they will... I would be very surprised.
 
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EleventhHour

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I saw this the other day which contains many of the stories that have been circulating. Good documentary as far as I can tell. Granted I haven't checked his sources or cross examined his evidence.
I like your style ...so much more thoughtful.

I am so dismayed how some have taken no time at all to understand this virus and just call it a hoax.
 

Nehemiah6

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The only remaining question is whether it was released intentionally.
Whether or not it was released intentionally, it did the job of a biological weapon from China -- it brought the rest of the world to its knees. The Communist bosses must be extremely pleased that while Trump tried to level the playing field with tariffs against China, China literally leveled America with a virus and attacked the Constitution at the same time.

But the Western media are is collusion with Communist China is preventing the truth to come out. The deaths reported by China are a fraction of the true death count, but the MSM have no interest in digging out the truth. The defective medical equipment supplied by China resulted in more deaths in Europe, and there are calls for a Nuremberg-like trial against the Chinese government. The disappearance of Chinese whistleblowers at the beginning tells us that China was making every effort to prevent the truth from coming out, while cooking up biological weapons in Wuhan (with the help of Geroge Soros). The WHO and CDC were also in collusion with China by projecting MILLIONS OF DEATHS and praising China for its efforts.

The Democrat party should be held directly responsible for preventing a better response from the USA. Just when the outbreak occurred, they began their SHAM IMPEACHMENT effort against Donald Trump. That distracted everyone and kept peoples' attention on the total nonsense being perpetrated in Washington by the Dems.

Now CNN's Chris Cuomo (who was infected) has finally woken up and said that he has been “trafficking in things that I think are ridiculous.” This is the same guy who has attacked Trump day after day, and become a partisan hack for the Democrats at the same time.

The media have a huge responsibility to report real news and facts. But instead they have chosen to promote Fake News and mislead people.
 

Nehemiah6

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"Not one of the principals in this fiasco – Pelosi, Adam Schiff, Jerry Nadler, or the rest of them gave a single thought to the potential threat of the disease emanating from China. There is no record of any of them even mentioning it until the economic shutdown brought it to their attention.

But for calling Trump 'xenophobic' when he banned flights from China, none of them registered the virus as dangerous to the U.S. Once it became clear it was a serious threat, they all got on board to blame it on the president, to spread the lie that he was late to recognize it and is thus to blame, as Barbra Streisand put it, for 20k deaths.

What abhorrent nonsense. Pelosi is the de facto leader of a liars' club. And just as when the same bunch went after then-Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh, there is not one bit of truth to their accusations and they all know it. This is how malevolent Pelosi and her disciples are. No plot to destroy this president is too wicked to employ"

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/04/nancy_pelosi_and_her_democrats_unending_shame.html
 
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Whether or not it was released intentionally, it did the job of a biological weapon from China -- it brought the rest of the world to its knees. The Communist bosses must be extremely pleased that while Trump tried to level the playing field with tariffs against China, China literally leveled America with a virus and attacked the Constitution at the same time.

But the Western media are is collusion with Communist China is preventing the truth to come out. The deaths reported by China are a fraction of the true death count, but the MSM have no interest in digging out the truth. The defective medical equipment supplied by China resulted in more deaths in Europe, and there are calls for a Nuremberg-like trial against the Chinese government. The disappearance of Chinese whistleblowers at the beginning tells us that China was making every effort to prevent the truth from coming out, while cooking up biological weapons in Wuhan (with the help of Geroge Soros). The WHO and CDC were also in collusion with China by projecting MILLIONS OF DEATHS and praising China for its efforts.

The Democrat party should be held directly responsible for preventing a better response from the USA. Just when the outbreak occurred, they began their SHAM IMPEACHMENT effort against Donald Trump. That distracted everyone and kept peoples' attention on the total nonsense being perpetrated in Washington by the Dems.

Now CNN's Chris Cuomo (who was infected) has finally woken up and said that he has been “trafficking in things that I think are ridiculous.” This is the same guy who has attacked Trump day after day, and become a partisan hack for the Democrats at the same time.

The media have a huge responsibility to report real news and facts. But instead they have chosen to promote Fake News and mislead people.

How could you possibly know what is on the news if you don't watch. See for yourself instead of taking Trump's word for it on a tweet...
 

Nehemiah6

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How could you possibly know what is on the news if you don't watch. See for yourself instead of taking Trump's word for it on a tweet...
What makes you think I follow only Trump's tweets (in fact I don't even bother with Twitter or Facebook)? There are a dozen or more conservative news sources which are accessible to all (including myself). So here is a new story which has just been published on Breitbart News.

Donald Trump: ‘China Will Find Out’ Consequences for Coronavirus Misinformation

President Donald Trump said Monday at the White House that there would be consequences for China’s misinformation about the coronavirus, but he declined to share them with the media.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...-consequences-for-coronavirus-misinformation/

Why did the President decline to share this with the media? For the simple reason that the media are working for China, NOT the USA. The media and the Democrats want to see the destruction of Trump and America, and Lindsey Graham had something to say about that as published by Breitbart also.

So please go and check out those news stories, rather than the garbage broadcast by CNN, CBS, NBC, etc. and the NY Times and Washington Post.
 
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What makes you think I follow only Trump's tweets (in fact I don't even bother with Twitter or Facebook)? There are a dozen or more conservative news sources which are accessible to all (including myself). So here is a new story which has just been published on Breitbart News.

Donald Trump: ‘China Will Find Out’ Consequences for Coronavirus Misinformation

President Donald Trump said Monday at the White House that there would be consequences for China’s misinformation about the coronavirus, but he declined to share them with the media.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...-consequences-for-coronavirus-misinformation/

Why did the President decline to share this with the media? For the simple reason that the media are working for China, NOT the USA. The media and the Democrats want to see the destruction of Trump and America, and Lindsey Graham had something to say about that as published by Breitbart also.

So please go and check out those news stories, rather than the garbage broadcast by CNN, CBS, NBC, etc. and the NY Times and Washington Post.
So you do watch Trump's daily news conferences ...Yesterday he stated that he has the sole authority over the States. That was funny. A reporter had to correct him. And she asked where he got his info from. A reporter had to get "the President of the U.S".up to speed on the Constitution of The United States. I'm talking about real words out of Trump's mouth. Not the " Fake news."...This does'nt alarm you? But I know. He just has to start talking about "the wall" and you all will soon forget about His incompetence . This worries me to no end...
 

blueluna5

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U.S. Embassy officials warned in January 2018 about inadequate safety at the Wuhan Institute of Virology lab and passed on information about scientists conducting risky research on coronavirus from bats, The Washington Post reported Tuesday.

Also according to the article the wet market didn't even sell bats.

Always seemed shady to me and deeper than they were letting on. Seems they are uncovering more already.

Full News article:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/coronavirus-wuhan-lab-china-compete-us-sources
 
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U.S. Embassy officials warned in January 2018 about inadequate safety at the Wuhan Institute of Virology lab and passed on information about scientists conducting risky research on coronavirus from bats, The Washington Post reported Tuesday.

Also according to the article the wet market didn't even sell bats.

Always seemed shady to me and deeper than they were letting on. Seems they are uncovering more already.

Full News article:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/coronavirus-wuhan-lab-china-compete-us-sources
There was no story in The Washington post that said any of this. So how did this go from there to fox news...
 

blueluna5

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There was no story in The Washington post that said any of this. So how did this go from there to fox news...
Well Washington Post is liberal so they probably took it down.

It was mentioned to the president by a reporter today as well. Apparently (according to the reporter) it was a woman who was patient 0 and she worked in a laboratory. She gave the virus to her boyfriend. He went to the wet market and we know the rest.

I'm sure more will come out soon, but I've seen or heard it mentioned twice today.
 
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Well Washington Post is liberal so they probably took it down.

It was mentioned to the president by a reporter today as well. Apparently (according to the reporter) it was a woman who was patient 0 and she worked in a laboratory. She gave the virus to her boyfriend. He went to the wet market and we know the rest.

I'm sure more will come out soon, but I've seen or heard it mentioned twice today.

So you're saying that , Like a movie, a rough reporter ran this story without anyone's permission the boss which is a Liberal pulled the story?