Jesus AND the Bible came into time as a SEED - by G. John Rov

[biker]

To you both, I am not denying anything we already have, I just am asking isn't it possible some Books were rejected that should be in our Bible this moment?

Is it really difficult to answer this ^ question?

 

[biker]

30For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven. 31But as touching the resurrection of the dead, have ye not read that which was spoken unto you by God, saying, 32I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of

1 Enoch 15:5-7:

5. Therefore have I given them wives also that they might impregnate them, and beget children by them, that thus nothing might be wanting to them on earth. 6. But you were ⌈formerly⌉ spiritual, living the eternal life, and immortal for all generations of the world. 7. And therefore I have not appointed wives for you; for as for the spiritual ones of the heaven, in heaven is their dwelling.

Enoch is discussing what we already know concerning the Nephilim. And Jesus is explaining we are like the Angels in Heaven who are not permitted to marry. 2 different idealisms here.

 

[biker]

that is just stupid

Have you ever been interrogated by the police? If you had, you would know this is far from stupid.

 

[CS1]

To you both, I am not denying anything we already have, I just am asking isn't it possible some Books were rejected that should be in our Bible this moment?

I don't think you are at all denying anything.

I am just pointing out I think what we see as the 66 books were collected as God ordained to be. Those what were not seen as the authoritative word of God is because God did not want it to be so.

Now what we do have is very much supported by many truths and witnesses.


example:

1. The five books of the law given to Moses by God greater than Enoch books
2. The synoptic Gospels are greater than the Gnostic gospels.
3. The Letters of paul greater than the writings of the church fathers Unless they are eyewitnesses of Jesus and The "Apostles" and were repeating what was already said by the 12 Apostles.

 

[CS1]

Enoch is discussing what we already know concerning the Nephilim. And Jesus is explaining we are like the Angels in Heaven who are not permitted to marry. 2 different idealisms here.

that id my point GEN 6 has nothing to do with angels taking earthly wives as some have translated .

 

[CS1]

Enoch is discussing what we already know concerning the Nephilim. And Jesus is explaining we are like the Angels in Heaven who are not permitted to marry. 2 different idealisms here.

remember many uses, Enoch, to suggest angel did, in fact, marry earthly women and had sex with them. They tie in Jude too.

 

[biker]

I don't think you are at all denying anything.

I am just pointing out I think what we see as the 66 books were collected as God ordained to be. Those what were not seen as the authoritative word of God is because God did not want it to be so.

Now what we do have is very much supported by many truths and witnesses.


example:

1. The five books of the law given to Moses by God greater than Enoch books
2. The synoptic Gospels are greater than the Gnostic gospels.
3. The Letters of paul greater than the writings of the church fathers Unless they are eyewitnesses of Jesus and The "Apostles" and were repeating what was already said by the 12 Apostles.

I love my Bible and live by it like my life and soul count on it. But I have read the other missing Books and don't see why some of them were rejected. Especially the ones we read Joshua (leader of the Hebrew people) and David (the Lineage which God chose to come as the Messiah from) use. For the life of me, I do not feel the Holy Spirit tugging at me for reading these materials like He would if I was watching porn (just using as example). I do not see why they were denied other than personal human choice.

 

[biker]

remember many uses, Enoch, to suggest angel did, in fact, marry earthly women and had sex with them. They tie in Jude too.

We know they did. Even Goliath was the result of such. God had the Hebrews wipe them out and those Fallen Sons of God are locked away now.

 

[CS1]

I love my Bible and live by it like my life and soul count on it. But I have read the other missing Books and don't see why some of them were rejected. Especially the ones we read Joshua (leader of the Hebrew people) and David (the Lineage which God chose to come as the Messiah from) use. For the life of me, I do not feel the Holy Spirit tugging at me for reading these materials like He would if I was watching porn (just using as example). I do not see why they were denied other than personal human choice.

There is nothing wrong with reading them. I read them too as I do The writings of Josephus and the early church fathers.


But I think the 66 are the foundational truth by which we must build. No different than a pastor who speaks we must look at what is said by the 66 books.

 

[7seasrekeyed]

Have you ever been interrogated by the police? If you had, you would know this is far from stupid.

no reason to

your experience is not universal

 

[biker]

There is nothing wrong with reading them. I read them too as I do The writings of Josephus and the early church fathers.


But I think the 66 are the foundational truth by which we must build. No different than a pastor who speaks we must look at what is said by the 66 books.

I agree!

All I am pointing out is that I think some Books should not have been rejected. That is all I am stating. If there never was a council, we would have all of those Books.

 

[biker]

We know they did. Even Goliath was the result of such. God had the Hebrews wipe them out and those Fallen Sons of God are locked away now.

From the Hebrew which Amos wrote:

1 And it came to pass when man commenced to multiply upon the face of the earth, and daughters were born to them.
אוַֽיְהִי֙ כִּֽי־הֵחֵ֣ל הָֽאָדָ֔ם ָרֹ֖ב עַל־פְּנֵ֣י הָֽאֲדָמָ֑ה וּבָנ֖וֹת יֻלְּד֥וּ לָהֶֽם:

That the sons of the nobles saw the daughters of man when they were beautifying themselves, and they took for themselves wives from whomever they chose.
בוַיִּרְא֤וּ בְנֵי־הָֽאֱלֹהִים֙ אֶת־בְּנ֣וֹת הָֽאָדָ֔ם כִּ֥י טֹבֹ֖ת הֵ֑נָּה וַיִּקְח֤וּ לָהֶם֙ נָשִׁ֔ים מִכֹּ֖ל אֲשֶׁ֥ר בָּחָֽרוּ:

 

[biker]

KJV:

1 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,

2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

 

[biker]

Enoch was correct then

 

[biker]

no reason to

your experience is not universal

I never said I was ever interrogated.

 

[CS1]

I agree!

All I am pointing out is that I think some Books should not have been rejected. That is all I am stating. If there never was a council, we would have all of those Books.

the context and Harmony of all scriptures also known as the unity of Scriptures. The gnostic gospels were not, in fact, Paul addressed the error of them. After the "Apostles" have died Gnosticism tried yet again to interject their writings again as authoritative.

They attacked(gnostic gospels) the word of God and the foundational truth for example:

1. the death of Jesus and HIS literal resurrection
2. false narratives of Jesus having a wife
3. The deity of Christ

The church fathers in much prayer and seeking God took what was already written and a measuring rod formed in truth to know what was inspired. They Built of Jesus and the Eyewitnesses, the Prophets and the law. they rest fall short to meet the standard that GOD set up not man.

 

[7seasrekeyed]

I never said I was ever interrogated.

you don't have to

 

[CS1]

Enoch was correct then

Enoch was wrong at lest HIS writing and please remember there is nothing to prove the Book of Enoch was the Genesis Enoch.

 

[biker]

the context and Harmony of all scriptures also known as the unity of Scriptures. The gnostic gospels were not, in fact, Paul addressed the error of them. After the "Apostles" have died Gnosticism tried yet again to interject their writings again as authoritative.

They attacked(gnostic gospels) the word of God and the foundational truth for example:

1. the death of Jesus and HIS literal resurrection
2. false narratives of Jesus having a wife
3. The deity of Christ

The church fathers in much prayer and seeking God took what was already written and a measuring rod formed in truth to know what was inspired. They Built of Jesus and the Eyewitnesses, the Prophets and the law. they rest fall short to meet the standard that GOD set up not man.

That is why I am not mentioning Book of Thomas and many others. But the Book of Jasher makes no sense not being in the Bible since both Joshua and king David read it and I would bet they read it to those they were over. I would also think if David read it, so did the Prophet of God who was over David.

 

[biker]

Enoch was wrong at lest HIS writing and please remember there is nothing to prove the Book of Enoch was the Genesis Enoch.

The issue with Enoch is due to how the parchment was made. 1 portion dates close to Moses' Law and the other portion dates to after Jesus ascended. No doubt it was added to. That later addition definitely should be trashed.