Closing the Gap in Dispensationalism

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Keeping the law was walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord. Remember, the sacrificial system was part of the law.

Galatians 2:16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.
But doing nothing kept the Law. Doing something meant to bring a blood sacrifice for your sins. Only when in a coma, people cease sinning outwardly.
 
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Its a forceful catching up. The only difference is that God told us that the next one will be universal. "Behold I tell you a mystery, we will not all sleep"....and our resurrection happens at the universal rapture.
But we will be changed, like Christ for we will see him as he is.
 

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But doing nothing kept the Law. Doing something meant to bring a blood sacrifice for your sins. Only when in a coma, people cease sinning outwardly.
What's your point? Scripture calls the law a work. Scripture calls faith not a work.
 
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What's your point? Scripture calls the law a work. Scripture calls faith not a work.
But free will turns sinful human belief (of the flesh) into a work people trust in instead of Jesus.
 

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But free will turns sinful human belief (of the flesh) into a work people trust in instead of Jesus.
Again, opinions without Scripture. Faith in the Lord Jesus Christ is not a work of the law. Read Romans 4.
 

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Again, opinions without Scripture. Faith in the Lord Jesus Christ is not a work of the law. Read Romans 4.
I like that. #opinionswithoutscripture

Whats funny is that it's not even immature, its outright the truth
 
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Again, opinions without Scripture. Faith in the Lord Jesus Christ is not a work of the law. Read Romans 4.
People buy used cars on flesh belief. They think salvation works the same way. This is why 3/4 of the converts in the parable of the sower wash out.
 

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Ignorance of scripture should be included as a fault of the hearer.
Scripture should be included in correction:
"All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness" -1 Tim 3:16
 
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Scripture should be included in correction:
"All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness" -1 Tim 3:16
But only the born again can understand it? Why so many conflicting beliefs you ask?
 

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@Dave-L
If you don't want to provide Scripture with all your complaints about our comments, then we don't value your comments as Biblically weighty.

"If anyone thinks he is a prophet or spiritual, let him recognize that the things which I write to you are the Lord’s commandment. But if anyone does not recognize this, he is not recognized " -1 Cor 14:37-38
 

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But only the born again can understand it? Why so many conflicting beliefs you ask?
The reason there are conflicting beliefs is because Christianity is a narrow path. This is especially true of doctrine. Since it's easier to do....Most people tend to lean too far one way or another and jumping to conclusions because the seeming contradictions (Biblical tensions) are too much for them to handle.

If we emphasize the Law, we become judiazers. If we emphasize too much grace, we turn it into licentiousness (Jude 4).
If we emphasize to much faith, we become bad stewards. If we emphasize too much stewardship, we become self-sufficient.
If we emphasize free will, we don't give God credit. If we emphasize election, we forfeit abandon our responsibility.
In this case, one may emphasize the Kingdom as spiritual or physical...and both are in error. Because its not one or the other.

These are all good and true things, but without a balanced view of Scripture our doctrine will be inconsistent and wrong.
We have to hold doctrine in balance and let the tension linger in your mind until you see the resolve. If you aren't diligent in the Word, they will remain as a mystery to you. But if you "present yourself approved to God....accurately handling the Word of Truth".....you will believe and present the Word consistently and faithfully.

We need to be on the narrow path practically and doctrinally.
 

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That is easily proven. All one has to do is see from THE WORDS OF CHRIST that the Rapture is imminent. It could happen at any time with no connection to a Tribulation period or any other event. And the parable of the Ten Virgins is an outstanding example.

Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom... Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of Man cometh.

This is corroborated several times:

Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come. (Mt 24:42)

Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of Man cometh. (Mt 24:44)

After a long time the lord of those servants cometh, and reckoneth with them. (Mt 25:19)

All this is addressed to believers (servants of Christ) -- the disciples -- and then to us. As we know from other Scriptures, this is NOT the Second Coming of Christ, which is to judge the world, when He comes with all His saints and angels.

Now that it has been proven, will you believe it or continue with your false doctrines?
 

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That is easily proven. All one has to do is see from THE WORDS OF CHRIST that the Rapture is imminent. It could happen at any time with no connection to a Tribulation period or any other event. And the parable of the Ten Virgins is an outstanding example.

Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom... Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of Man cometh.

This is corroborated several times:

Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come. (Mt 24:42)

Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of Man cometh. (Mt 24:44)

After a long time the lord of those servants cometh, and reckoneth with them. (Mt 25:19)

All this is addressed to believers (servants of Christ) -- the disciples -- and then to us. As we know from other Scriptures, this is NOT the Second Coming of Christ, which is to judge the world, when He comes with all His saints and angels.

Now that it has been proven, will you believe it or continue with your false doctrines?
he will probably just tell you that "you're wrong" or that he "does't agree with your false interpretation"
....and of course without any Scripture. Its what he does when he's stumped.
"I've heard it all before" "I don't need to explain. You don't understand because you're ignorant".

Its doctrinal laziness
 

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People buy used cars on flesh belief. They think salvation works the same way. This is why 3/4 of the converts in the parable of the sower wash out.
Biblical faith is being fully persuaded that God is able to perform what He said.

Romans 4
20 He staggered not at the promise of God through unbelief; but was strong in faith, giving glory to God;
21 And being fully persuaded that, what he had promised, he was able also to perform.
 

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Biblical faith is being fully persuaded that God is able to perform what He said.

Romans 4
20 He staggered not at the promise of God through unbelief; but was strong in faith, giving glory to God;
21 And being fully persuaded that, what he had promised, he was able also to perform.
Great definition! Reminds me of Hebrews 11:11