No more Pig Meat!

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Paul personally asked me why I was not living free from sin. So I know he did not teach anyone that it was ok to live the life of a sinner. 2 Peter 3:16 says: "His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction."

People can do what they want and they only harm themselves. The problem is when they harm others by approving of what they are doing: "God’s righteous decree that those who do such things are worthy of death, they not only continue to do these things, but also approve of those who practice them". (Romans 1:31)

People can do what they want but in no way should be give them our approval if what they are doing is harmful to themselves. Paul tells us MANY are weak and sick: "For anyone who eats and drinks without recognizing the body eats and drinks judgment on himself. That is why many among you are weak and sick, and a number of you have fallen asleep. Now if we judged ourselves properly, we would not come under judgment." (1Cor11:29,30) Paul said many are weak and sick and the word MANY should cause us to pay attention to what he is saying.
 

Roughsoul1991

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The Ornish program has been very well tested. Not only for heart disease but the program works for alot of other diseases like cancer and diabeties. Diet, exercise and stress control is what it takes to be healthy. As Cher said: If it came in a bottle everyone would do it.
Yes in moderation this is called a healthy diet. You will not die from eating bacon every now and then. Eating everyday then yes you will probably be doing more harm than good.
 
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Yes in moderation this is called a healthy diet. You will not die from eating bacon every now and then. Eating everyday then yes you will probably be doing more harm than good.
I like to eat the morning star veggie meat. Esp I like soy. I do not know if it is good for us or not. It is very processed but I get flavor and it is easy for me to digest.
 

Roughsoul1991

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Paul personally asked me why I was not living free from sin. So I know he did not teach anyone that it was ok to live the life of a sinner. 2 Peter 3:16 says: "His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction."

People can do what they want and they only harm themselves. The problem is when they harm others by approving of what they are doing: "God’s righteous decree that those who do such things are worthy of death, they not only continue to do these things, but also approve of those who practice them". (Romans 1:31)

People can do what they want but in no way should be give them our approval if what they are doing is harmful to themselves. Paul tells us MANY are weak and sick: "For anyone who eats and drinks without recognizing the body eats and drinks judgment on himself. That is why many among you are weak and sick, and a number of you have fallen asleep. Now if we judged ourselves properly, we would not come under judgment." (1Cor11:29,30) Paul said many are weak and sick and the word MANY should cause us to pay attention to what he is saying.
Paul has been in Heaven for almost 2000 years. He didn't speak to you.

Peter is warning us against ignorant people. Listen so you may learn. You will have explain why in Romans 14:6 he says Whoever eats meat does so to the Lord, for they give thanks to God.

Peter himself had a vision in Acts 10 where God was preparing the way for the church as no longer the ceremonial laws about unclean food would be held. A symbolic truth to a deeper truth related to the Gentiles. And how gentiles was also free from such burdens. In fact in Acts 15 the council agreed not to burden them with such laws. Except to call out pagan practices related to the consumption of food.

Roman 1:31. Good which is speaking of the things above that verse and not eating pig. Try again.

1 Corinthians 11:29-30. Is quite evidently speaking on spiritual matters related to who eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord.

You eat how you want. God gave you that freedom. Dont harass others. God gave us all that freedom. Of course with freedom comes responsibility. Everyone must eat responsibly.
 

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I like to eat the morning star veggie meat. Esp I like soy. I do not know if it is good for us or not. It is very processed but I get flavor and it is easy for me to digest.
Processed doesn't sound healthy. Best to grow your own.
 

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PULLED PORK BBQ....................... mmmmmmmmmmm goooooooooood!

 

p_rehbein

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...........or............ one could opt for...........

SMOKED BRISKET..........mmmmmmmm............goooooooooood tooooooooo!!!

 

p_rehbein

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...........or...........one could opt for the good old stand by............BBQ YARD BIRD...........mmmmmmmmmmmmm gooooood 222222

 

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The Bible says not to eat pigs or shelled fish and I don't. I warn people not to eat pork but no one pays any attention. At least not until they get grout and the doctor tells them to cut back on that stuff. Now I see they are closing down a big plant because of 300 people that have the virus. I wonder if this virus is not striking with surgical precision. This plant produces: "producing 18 million servings of food per day."

https://www.theblaze.com/news/one-o...as-ominous-warning-about-grocery-store-supply
Pork was considered unclean because it, processed outside of modern methods, literally is. The pork tapeworm causes neurocystercosis in people and is the number one cause of acquired epilepsy on earth.

https://web.stanford.edu/class/humbio103/ParaSites2001/taeniasis/solium2.html
 
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Pork was considered unclean because
Because does not really matter to me. If the Bible says not to eat it then I don't eat it. I wish I could follow all the teachings of the Bible. Even the Rabbies go beyond what the Bible teaches. But Jesus said it is enough just to do what we are told to do without going beyond that.
 
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...........or...........one could opt for the good old stand by............BBQ YARD BIRD...........mmmmmmmmmmmmm gooooood 222222

That is a sick looking bird. I like to get organic that is not filled with whatever drugs they pumped that thing full of. It is worth it to pay a dollar more to get a healthy bird.
 
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Paul has been in Heaven for almost 2000 years. He didn't speak to you.
I do not know how that works. It was not a dream so it must have been some sort of a vision. I remember it took him like 3 seconds to get there, we talked for around 6 seconds, although he did most of the talking. Then it took him about 3 seconds to get back to the area he was from. They sort of give you packets of information. Even though the Bible calls then scrolls. Paul said: "It is written" so I looked to see what was written. David used the word GOOD and Paul changed this to the word RIGHT. So my question was why did he change the word like that.

I had a dream once about a daughter I have in heaven and that was very vivid. The experience I had with Paul I was almost blind. I could barely make anything out. Even though I just knew who he was. If you think it is just my imagination that if fine. That would not change anything. The library is filled with books that are both fiction and nonfiction. So if people want to think all the books about heaven are just fiction, I do not see what difference that makes. Archetypes are universal. Even science accepts that.
 
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You eat how you want.
Science is a lot more clear then the Bible. Esp if we follow the Ornish program. I have one stint so they put me through a program to learn how to eat right so I could avoid having to go through any future operations. I tried to study up on the evolution diet once, but that did not really go anywhere.
 

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The point being that whether or not the command applies to gentiles is irrelevant. A real biblical diet would be vegan, Genesis predates Leviticus by a bit.
 

Roughsoul1991

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The point being that whether or not the command applies to gentiles is irrelevant. A real biblical diet would be vegan, Genesis predates Leviticus by a bit.
Defend this claim. In Genesis where does it say you shouldn't eat meat? Let us forget that the New Testament actually says it is okay.
 

KhedetOrthos

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Defend this claim. In Genesis where does it say you shouldn't eat meat? Let us forget that the New Testament actually says it is okay.

Genesis 9:3. The verse that gives permission to eat meat actually refers back to the vegetarian diet God gave in the garden.
 

Roughsoul1991

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Science is a lot more clear then the Bible. Esp if we follow the Ornish program. I have one stint so they put me through a program to learn how to eat right so I could avoid having to go through any future operations. I tried to study up on the evolution diet once, but that did not really go anywhere.
Science is archaic when it comes to the Bible. It took centuries just to agree that the universe did have a beginning.
 
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Defend this claim. In Genesis where does it say you shouldn't eat meat? Let us forget that the New Testament actually says it is okay.
"The cow will feed with the bear, their young will lie down together, and the lion will eat straw like the ox." (Isaiah 11:7) It would appear at some point in time we will not be eating animals. Nor will they be devouring each other.