JOHN MACARTHUR ABOUT ASSURANCE
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I see it now.
I see myself responding in the perfection of Christ in many situations.
Don't you?
Of course, I will be totally perfect when I leave this body.
Just as you will be.
I see myself responding in the perfection of Christ in many situations.
Don't you?
Of course, I will be totally perfect when I leave this body.
Just as you will be.
To be under the Law is to be subject to the penalty of transgressing the Law.. and the price of sin is death...
So while the Law is good and serves it's purpose and we should strive to follow it. We are not under the Law but under Grace..
Romans 6: KJV
14 "For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace."
So while the Law is good and serves it's purpose and we should strive to follow it. We are not under the Law but under Grace..
Romans 6: KJV
14 "For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace."
“Listen then to what the parable of the sower means: 19 When anyone hears the message about the kingdom and does not understand it, the evil one comes and snatches away what was sown in their heart. This is the seed sown along the path. 20 The seed falling on rocky ground refers to someone who hears the word and at once receives it with joy. 21 But since they have no root, they last only a short time. When trouble or persecution comes because of the word, they quickly fall away. 22 The seed falling among the thorns refers to someone who hears the word, but the worries of this life and the deceitfulness of wealth choke the word, making it unfruitful. 23 But the seed falling on good soil refers to someone who hears the word and understands it. This is the one who produces a crop, yielding a hundred, sixty or thirty times what was sown.”
Matthew 13. With Jesus himself saying that you can fall away from the faith and lose your salvation, there really is no room for the concept of eternal security.
Matthew 13. With Jesus himself saying that you can fall away from the faith and lose your salvation, there really is no room for the concept of eternal security.
Why would God judge those who have admitted they are guilty before the moral law and sought His grace? If He would yet judge what is the meaning of admitting guilt & seeking grace?
Judgement as you pointed out is for those who deny they moral law or deny they aren't guilty and/or refuse to seek grace through Christ's blood.
You are differentiating from an act and sin. An act becomes sinful if not covered by His grace.
These were the points they put forth.
What concerns are you focussing on?
Judgement as you pointed out is for those who deny they moral law or deny they aren't guilty and/or refuse to seek grace through Christ's blood.
You are differentiating from an act and sin. An act becomes sinful if not covered by His grace.
These were the points they put forth.
What concerns are you focussing on?
We are going around in circles.. If a person agrees with God that engaging in sexual relationship outside of marriage is wrong then they will at lest make an effort to avoid engaging in such sinful activity in the future.. By your description of what is happening they are making no effort to bring to an end their sinning.. This is demonstrating to the congregation that they are not genuine in their repentance.. It's not hard to get married.. And it takes a day for one of them to move out of shared accommodation..
True.. But these two are by their refusal to either marry or separate demonstrating that they are only giving lip service to the moral law..
Murder is sin and remains sin irrespective if it is covered by grace or not.. The covering of the Blood of Jesus does not make sin no longer sin.. It covers the sin and pays the penalty for that sin..
True.. But these two are by their refusal to either marry or separate demonstrating that they are only giving lip service to the moral law..
Murder is sin and remains sin irrespective if it is covered by grace or not.. The covering of the Blood of Jesus does not make sin no longer sin.. It covers the sin and pays the penalty for that sin..
A (Adstar): If a person agrees with God that engaging in sexual relationship outside of marriage is wrong then they will at lest make an effort to avoid engaging in such sinful activity in the future
M (Me): They make no effort to avoid engaging in their live in relationship because they don't continue under law. It is the moral law which tells it is evil. Law has led them to grace.
A: By your description of what is happening they are making no effort to bring to an end their sinning.
M: If it is yet considered sinning, there is no meaning of grace covering & rendering sin unaccounted.
A: This is demonstrating to the congregation that they are not genuine in their repentance.
M: Under law, repentance is to turn from doing evil to doing good. But under grace, repentance is turning from trusting in the law to be justified to trusting in His atonement to be justified.
A: It's not hard to get married. And it takes a day for one of them to move out of shared accommodation.
M: The issue is not getting married, but doing so without understanding grace covers & renders sin unaccounted is a false repentance. It a self-deception to think our repentance & plans/efforts to live holy makes us special in comparison to the live-in couple & enables us to not need the same grace they need or need it lesser.
A: But these two are by their refusal to either marry or separate demonstrating that they are only giving lip service to the moral law.
M: True they are only giving lip service to the moral law, if they continue to remain under the moral law. Moral law has showed they can never be sinless & live before God and therefore led them to grace.
A: Murder is sin and remains sin irrespective if it is covered by grace or not.
M: Jael murdered Sisera & David/Joshua murdered thousands. How? They were covered by grace or else they would be in hell.
A: The covering of the Blood of Jesus does not make sin no longer sin.. It covers the sin and pays the penalty for that sin.
M: Atonement not only forgives & covers sin. You carefully avoided the "rendering sin unaccounted" work of His atonement of grace.
M (Me): They make no effort to avoid engaging in their live in relationship because they don't continue under law. It is the moral law which tells it is evil. Law has led them to grace.
A: By your description of what is happening they are making no effort to bring to an end their sinning.
M: If it is yet considered sinning, there is no meaning of grace covering & rendering sin unaccounted.
A: This is demonstrating to the congregation that they are not genuine in their repentance.
M: Under law, repentance is to turn from doing evil to doing good. But under grace, repentance is turning from trusting in the law to be justified to trusting in His atonement to be justified.
A: It's not hard to get married. And it takes a day for one of them to move out of shared accommodation.
M: The issue is not getting married, but doing so without understanding grace covers & renders sin unaccounted is a false repentance. It a self-deception to think our repentance & plans/efforts to live holy makes us special in comparison to the live-in couple & enables us to not need the same grace they need or need it lesser.
A: But these two are by their refusal to either marry or separate demonstrating that they are only giving lip service to the moral law.
M: True they are only giving lip service to the moral law, if they continue to remain under the moral law. Moral law has showed they can never be sinless & live before God and therefore led them to grace.
A: Murder is sin and remains sin irrespective if it is covered by grace or not.
M: Jael murdered Sisera & David/Joshua murdered thousands. How? They were covered by grace or else they would be in hell.
A: The covering of the Blood of Jesus does not make sin no longer sin.. It covers the sin and pays the penalty for that sin.
M: Atonement not only forgives & covers sin. You carefully avoided the "rendering sin unaccounted" work of His atonement of grace.