regarding post #132 I was just trying to express that I feel weird about the whole thing. I’m sorry it’s upset some of you
I think I’m gay
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I’m a sexual libertarian. I couldn’t possibly care less what consenting adults do in the bedroom provided there are no children or animals being victimized. Quit feeling weird and strive to strengthen your relationship with God through Jesus Christ.
Can you pm me to discuss this further your point of view is interesting as it differs from a lot on here
It may not be as bad as it appeared. I could be wrong but she seems to be being honest about that and sometimes being honest can appear a bit crass and also I don't think she is a troll I think she really wants help but this a christian forum and people who have not been on one may not know how to speak correctly and can be a bit crude
My point of view is simple; Nothing in all of life eclipses the saving grace of Jesus Christ. If you accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior then you are a child of God, and He will perfect you in His time. Salvation comes instantly; sanctification is a lifelong process.
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Point well taken, my sister. I think it’s one thing to live a life of sexual decadence and depravity, and another thing to monogamously love someone, and I mean truly love someone, all the while placing your faith in Jesus Christ. Besides, if every man was gay except me, I’d be dating all you chicks.
FYI gay is not a life style it is a perversion. And tell a person to accept a false narrative about themselves is a great sin. Save your lecture for someone else. You know nothing of what God has me doing and how many since 1980 in the SF area and LA we have help lead to Christ who were gay and no longer today, Praise God. Until you have led homosexuals to christ during the first outbreaks of Aids when it was known as the gay curse and we minsters were the only ones going to the hospital leading them to Jesus before they died. You most likely are only speaking of sound bites and have never really helped one, just some kind luke-warm gospel feel good message so one thinks they can remain gay. That is not freedom that is not deliverance , that is not the power of God to change the life of one in bondage as I was in and others. were done.
I can't speak for her but for all we know Susanna may very well have helped plenty of gay people and honestly I don't think she was trying to be rude she is just very kindhearted and and when people say things in the way you did it can come off as hateful.
And anyways your way of helping them may not be her way, I have come across and helped plenty of gay people here and a lot of them struggle with self worth and have low self esteem especially in teens. These are the kind of people you can either make or break depending on how you handle it. God uses us in different ways according to the needs needed, your way is effective but it also may not be suited for people who are already on the verge of breaking
I respect your opinion but you did not see her pm to me and I am not doubting her honesty I am most certain she is very honest however she is still wrong and was played by this troll. IF you go back and look at the actually statement not only mine but others you will se where she accused us of being unloving and it was not I who suggest she was not leading gay to the Lord she did.
Her Idea of loving is to tell one to embraces the sexual perversion and " Be who you are" . Then when she was called on it she became rude. My comment were not directed to her, she did not speak about being naked and feeling weird . Also the troll has Pm me some very interesting comments.
Please anytime one says homosexuality is a sin and there is no such thing Biblically as a gay lifestyle that to her is hate speech .
Wrong!!!!!
Susanna's first reply to unfortunatlyasinner regarding homosexuality..
But now in post 140 susanna declares regarding homosexuality..
Homsexual lifestyle that susanna declares to not be evil is also declared by Susanne to be a hazardous lifestyle that should be put to an end?
How two faced can a person be? The homosexual lifestyle is either a hazarous lifestyle that needs to be ended OR it is Ok and not evil? It cannot be both.. Except for two faced people who have no consistency..
But now in post 140 susanna declares regarding homosexuality..
Homsexual lifestyle that susanna declares to not be evil is also declared by Susanne to be a hazardous lifestyle that should be put to an end?
How two faced can a person be? The homosexual lifestyle is either a hazarous lifestyle that needs to be ended OR it is Ok and not evil? It cannot be both.. Except for two faced people who have no consistency..
Yep and that's why she latched onto Susanna.. She wanted to be supported in her abominable lifestyle and she found a supporter of that lifestyle to tell her what she wanted to hear..
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By not “evil” I was referring to what the op said about loving someone. But feel free to twist it and call me two faced.
I believe the point being made was that condemnation does not help.
Paul asks in 1 Corinthians 5:12
What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside?
Nope i know what you said and i quote it again::
You did not say It is not evil to love someone i will pray for you to find peace.. But now you want to put it forward that you said something that you did not say.. And in the process make out that i am a unjustified bully.. a nasty person..
No i reacted to what you actually said not what you now claim to have said.. I am not going to simply stand back and allow you to throw mud at me and make out your said something you never said..
Below is the foundation of the problem with you::
Conviction of sin is the Primary way the Holy Spirit leads the meek to the grace of Jesus.. Everyone who comes to the LORD will feel condemned by the message of God because they are actually in a state of condemnation.. The Only people who harden their hearts to that condemnation are the proud ones who love their sin and hate when their sin is declared sin.. The Meek who shall inherit the earth respond to the convicting message of the Bible with contrition,, They feel ashamed,, that agree with the condemnation they are facing.. And thats why the LORD states..
Isaiah 57: KJV
15 "For thus saith the high and lofty One that inhabiteth eternity, whose name is Holy; I dwell in the high and holy place, with him also that is of a contrite and humble spirit, to revive the spirit of the humble, and to revive the heart of the contrite ones."
Everyone who ends up saved goes through the uncomfortable process of conviction of the Holy Spirit.. If a person is proud and loves their sin they will resist the conviction of the Holy Spirit and they will be given over to their perversions..
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