nephilim

[Moses_Young]

The daughters of men are purely human originated from Adam and Eve. The mentioned sons of God are the fallen angels that became humans as Nephilims and they were descendants of Cain, they are the "serpent seeds".

Can you explain where else scripture uses the term "sons of God" to describe humans? If these "sons of God" were ordinary men, why does scripture make a reference to their offspring (but no other offspring) being "the heroes of old, men of reknown"? How does this make sense with Jude, where he compares sodomy to the sin of angels, and indicates that God provided special punishment for those angels?

Why don't you believe that the most straightforward reading of the text is that angels took their wives from among Earthly women?

 

[garee]

Gobbledegook and bafflegab!

First, you really need to take a class in basic written English. Your "word groups" are largely nonsensical.

Second, you really need to do some more homework on this matter. You are making your argument on secondary issues and out-of-context references.

Secondly you are making a primary issue "sons of God as gods" as to the context. . secondary. . . making it out-of-order.

First things first.

Who are the sons of God as gods ? Seeing God is not a man?

 

[Dino246]

Secondly you are making a primary issue "sons of God as gods" as to the context. . secondary. . . making it out-of-order.

First things first.

Who are the sons of God as gods ? Seeing God is not a man?

Where do you get the phrase, "sons of God as gods"? I didn't use it, so I don't know what you mean.

 

[cv5]

would someone like t weigh in on who the " daughters of men " and " sons of God " are in Genesis 6:1-4?

The daughters of men are the daughters of Adam. The sons of god are the bene Elohim which are always created angelic beings. The offspring of this union were the Nephilim.

 

[tanakh]

The daughters of men are purely human originated from Adam and Eve. The mentioned sons of God are the fallen angels that became humans as Nephilims and they were descendants of Cain, they are the "serpent seeds".

The daughters of men are purely human originated from Adam and Eve. The mentioned sons of God are the fallen angels that became humans as Nephilims and they were descendants of Cain, they are the "serpent seeds".

The Nephilim were the offspring of women who had intercourse with fallen Angels not the Angels themselves. Nowhere does it say
in scripture that the women were all Cains decendants.

 

[cv5]

Or we can go on according to that as it is written. Not looking to the temporal things of this world but rather the eternal things not seen as those revealed by work of the faithfulness of God.



Yes those angels like all angels are not subject to salvation. They cannot procreate with each other or with daughters of men (humans) They are missing a few items called substance. They are simply a legion of lying spirits without baby lying spirits .

In that way what God calls separate they call together and vise versa. They as counterfeit simply turn God's Spirit of truth upside down. He says they cannot procreate they say yes we can Satan was a murder from the garden .when he spoke he spoke a lie as the father of lies. He has no form needed to do the shift changing . He put his lying words in a creature who was there.

The reference in Genesis 6 is men as sons of God. Not once any mention of the word angel. The word men is used 16 times. The other kind of creation ones that were not formed from the molecules as rudiment of this world. Angels in that way are never considered of the renown giants of faith.

1 John 3:1Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.



They could not of been utterly destroyed if they were men of renown moved by the finger of God as giants of faith .They were still there after as there are believers as sons of God today which would include your own self.

Those sons of God ended up with offspring which Scripture refers to as nephilim or renoun . Giants of faith like David in whom Goliath looked like a grasshopper to the Spirit of Christ that lived in David Rehab or Deborah and Mary

There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown. Genesis 6



Yes bound by the gospel key. literal chanis could never hold the spirit of lies


sons of God . . . .God the source.
sons of men . Flesh and blood the source.
Sons of angels . . . (Son of Lucifer). . The Hollywood source.

It is simply a doctrine of men. I would suggest having nothing to do with the gospel. More to do with maximum height requirements .Some would call the mark of the beast. . giving short people a reason to live.

"facepalm"

 

[presidente]

The daughters of men are purely human originated from Adam and Eve. The mentioned sons of God are the fallen angels that became humans as Nephilims and they were descendants of Cain, they are the "serpent seeds".

During the flood, the Bible says eight were saved by water.

 

[garee]

Can you explain where else scripture uses the term "sons of God" to describe humans? If these "sons of God" were ordinary men, why does scripture make a reference to their offspring (but no other offspring) being "the heroes of old, men of reknown"? How does this make sense with Jude, where he compares sodomy to the sin of angels, and indicates that God provided special punishment for those angels?

Why don't you believe that the most straightforward reading of the text is that angels took their wives from among Earthly women?

The renown as sons of God were messengers of God as apostles and prophets . We are considered sons of God sent out as apostles .According to first John. We do not know what we will be when we do receive our new bodies.

The heroes of renown are the men God used mightily working in them to perform His good will . mighty men is a synonym for the world renown.

The word renown is not used to represent evil

The Spiritual seed Christ was in jeopardy. Believers like today were mingling with unbelievers (daughter of men) .

A parable using David can be used as another example of the use of mighty men of renown like Noah used to preserve the preserve the incoruutped seed .

There it shows us how that when we hear the understanding. We then can see how the seed is self preserving and defends self. . providing us with that armor that guards the seed. In that way we are the temple of the renown sending out two by two. .

And David was then in an hold, and the garrison of the Philistines was then in Bethlehem. And David longed, and said, Oh that one would give me drink of the water of the well of Bethlehem, which is by the gate! And the three mighty men brake through the host of the Philistines, and drew water out of the well of Bethlehem, that was by the gate, and took it, and brought it to David: nevertheless he would not drink thereof, but poured it out unto the Lord.And he said, Be it far from me, O Lord, that I should do this: is not this the blood (spirit) of the men that went in jeopardy of their lives? therefore he would not drink it. These things did these three mighty men.2 Samuel 23: 14 -17

By comparing the two parables. Noah and David, it would seem another safeguard for keeping the integrity of his unseen authority. . preserve the seed. That in which we can guard with all our new heart soul and mind. We are the temporal ark as earthen vessel that does have the treasure of His power in us. We simply would never say it is of us...

David refused to dishonor the unseen father and poured out the work that was attributed to the hands or will of mankind. The renown .He knew who was behind it.

Onan is just the opposite he poured out the seed that represents the work of Christ .like Esau seeing no value in the things not seen, the spiritual .

 

[just_truth]

The Nephilim were the offspring of women who had intercourse with fallen Angels not the Angels themselves. Nowhere does it say
in scripture that the women were all Cains decendants.

I did not say that the women or daughters of men are decendants of Cain, but the Nephilims are the descendants of Cain.

 

[garee]

"facepalm"

 

[just_truth]

Can you explain where else scripture uses the term "sons of God" to describe humans? If these "sons of God" were ordinary men, why does scripture make a reference to their offspring (but no other offspring) being "the heroes of old, men of reknown"? How does this make sense with Jude, where he compares sodomy to the sin of angels, and indicates that God provided special punishment for those angels?

Why don't you believe that the most straightforward reading of the text is that angels took their wives from among Earthly women?

Take note... "the heroes of old, men of reknown", that means the Nephilims have already the ancestors were the Nephilims originated. These Nephilims were wipe out during the flood of Noah's time, and later they were visited by Christ they are "spirit in prisons"(read 1 Peter 3:18–20).

 

[Dino246]

Take note... "the heroes of old, men of reknown", that means the Nephilims have already the ancestors were the Nephilims originated. These Nephilims were wipe out during the flood of Noah's time, and later they were visited by Christ they are "spirit in prisons"(read 1 Peter 3:18–20).

A few things to consider in your responses...

Using all bold-face type makes it look like you are shouting.

"Nephilim" is a plural word; there is no need to add an 's' on the end.

Finally, I'd encourage you to read your first "sentence" carefully; it doesn't make sense. Many people here struggle with English; for some it is a second language, some stopped learning early on, and some just don't care. If you want to communicate clearly, take the time to proofread your posts before clicking "Post reply".

 

[just_truth]

A few things to consider in your responses...

Using all bold-face type makes it look like you are shouting.

"Nephilim" is a plural word; there is no need to add an 's' on the end.

Finally, I'd encourage you to read your first "sentence" carefully; it doesn't make sense. Many people here struggle with English; for some it is a second language, some stopped learning early on, and some just don't care. If you want to communicate clearly, take the time to proofread your posts before clicking "Post reply".

Okay, thanks for your reminders. Anyway, I am not use to proofread, and I am not good in English...

 

[garee]

I did not say that the women or daughters of men are decendants of Cain, but the Nephilims are the descendants of Cain.

Nephilim are men of renown, mighty men in whom God worked in and with to both will and do his good pleasure a prophets.

Daughter can represent literal daughters to represent mankind or daughters of the spiritual understanding just as the word sons is used

Like the word mother, applies to both genders .The church is the mother of us all .Like with the example of Paul signified as the surrogate womb preaching the gospel seed, hoping Christ will form as a new creation applied to Timothy who is called the chaste virgin bride.

As new creatures we are not to reconcile male or female when reasoning in the word. . .

I think if could turn the two around the meaning would not change. Daughters of God. Sons of man.

Daughters of Job provides an interesting study in lieu that we are identified as the bride. It could be like the reference sons of God using Job to signify the work of the unseen father.

The determining factor I would offer is "of men" in Adam all die. . or as in the Spiritual, eternal, not seen. "of God" all live.

Sons is used to represent mankind as a whole . As Sons of God it speaks of the unseen power that moves mankind.

 

[cv5]

Nephilim are men of renown, mighty men in whom God worked in and with to both will and do his good pleasure a prophets.

Daughter can represent literal daughters to represent mankind or daughters of the spiritual understanding just as the word sons is used

Like the word mother, applies to both genders .The church is the mother of us all .Like with the example of Paul signified as the surrogate womb preaching the gospel seed, hoping Christ will form as a new creation applied to Timothy who is called the chaste virgin bride.

As new creatures we are not to reconcile male or female when reasoning in the word. . .

I think if could turn the two around the meaning would not change. Daughters of God. Sons of man.

Daughters of Job provides an interesting study in lieu that we are identified as the bride. It could be like the reference sons of God using Job to signify the work of the unseen father.

The determining factor I would offer is "of men" in Adam all die. . or as in the Spiritual, eternal, not seen. "of God" all live.

Sons is used to represent mankind as a whole . As Sons of God it speaks of the unseen power that moves mankind.

Is that why Moses and the Israelites, The Edomites, Joshua, and David and his men set forth to destroy them? Come to think of it I believe Chedorlaomer killed some on the way home.

 

[cv5]

Is that why Moses and the Israelites, The Edomites, Joshua, and David and his men set forth to destroy them? Come to think of it I believe Chedorlaomer killed some on the way home.

Gen 14:5

In the fourteenth year Chedorlaomer and the kings who were with him came and defeated the Rephaim in Ashteroth-karnaim, the Zuzim in Ham, the Emim in Shaveh-kiriathaim,

 

[Magenta]

Take note... "the heroes of old, men of reknown", that means the Nephilims have already the ancestors were the Nephilims originated. These Nephilims were wipe out during the flood of Noah's time, and later they were visited by Christ they are "spirit in prisons"(read 1 Peter 3:18–20).

Giants appear later in Scripture as well, under a variety of names.

 

[reneweddaybyday]

The daughters of men are the daughters of Adam. The sons of god are the bene Elohim which are always created angelic beings. The offspring of this union were the Nephilim.

The Nephilim were the offspring of women who had intercourse with fallen Angels not the Angels themselves.

Yes ... in agreement.

 

[reneweddaybyday]

Giants appear later in Scripture as well, under a variety of names.

yes.

And God's Word tells us there would be further outbreaks of these nephilim:

Genesis 6:4 There were giants [Hebrew nephilim] in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which [were] of old, men of renown.

Whenever the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, the result was nephilim and, as you state, nephilim are known by other names.

 

[cv5]

Num 13:33

And there we saw the Nephilim (the sons of Anak, who come from the Nephilim), and we seemed to ourselves like grasshoppers, and so we seemed to them.”