God must save us so we can believe and be holy.Lol, once we are in Christ, we will become holy. That’s our destination. We’re not there yet. Not until we are conformed to the image of Jesus. That’s the future adoption, the redemption of our body.
God must save us so we can believe and be holy.Lol, once we are in Christ, we will become holy. That’s our destination. We’re not there yet. Not until we are conformed to the image of Jesus. That’s the future adoption, the redemption of our body.
“For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.” Philippians 2:13 (KJV 1900)
“The king’s heart is in the hand of the LORD, as the rivers of water: He turneth it whithersoever he will.” Proverbs 21:1 (KJV 1900)Paul’s speaking to those who are already in Christ.
“The king’s heart is in the hand of the LORD, as the rivers of water: He turneth it whithersoever he will.” Proverbs 21:1 (KJV 1900)
Dave, the only way a person can come to THE FATHER, is through THE SON...This does not hold up. Saying God is ignorant = saying he is not omniscient. = Not God.
Why doesn´t what John said to you, hold up? That one has to come to THE FATHER through THE SON? Iḿ not sure why you are arguing this TRUTH...This does not hold up. Saying God is ignorant = saying he is not omniscient. = Not God.
God is not ignorant, never was.Why doesn´t what John said to you, hold up? That one has to come to THE FATHER through THE SON? Iḿ not sure why you are arguing this TRUTH...
What you are saying, is that GOD foreknew...this is true...but HE will point all men to HIS SON...those who believe will be marked as belonging to HIM...in, by and through HIS SON...the SON is THE SON over HIS FATHER´ś HOUSE...and THE SON will present back to THE FATHER...THE HOUSE
“No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.” John 6:44 (KJV 1900)Dave, the only way a person can come to THE FATHER, is through THE SON...
I'm saying he controls our destinies.What’s the point of this? Is this your attempt to show God’s knowledge?![]()
I am not a proponent of the term free will. I prefer the term self willI think people deny the power of God when they proclaim free will. God saves, free will does not.
self-will is bound by sin.I am not a proponent of the term free will. I prefer the term self will![]()
Man's will is constrained by his nature.self-will is bound by sin.
which is desperately wicked.Man's will is constrained by his nature.
In the natural state, yes. Though people are capable of doing good things, none of it is good enough to warrant salvation aside from that which God has mandated.which is desperately wicked.
I'm saying he controls our destinies.
Are you saying God is merely a spectator learning as he goes?By that one verse, you create a whole doctrine?![]()
Are you saying God is merely a spectator learning as he goes?
So he was blind and ignorant as the eternal Spirit too?Your descriptions kill me. What saith the scriptures? Ever read Hebrews. We’re told that God learned what it was like living in a body of flesh, to be tempted, to suffer, to thirst, to hunger, to be weary, to experience physical pain.
So he was blind and ignorant as the eternal Spirit too?