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alright, so this is what i have heard. the church i go to is really into looking at the original word in greek and what it means rather than looking at the english word because it doesn't always directly translate.
in I Cor. 6:9 Paul says that the sexually immoral, among others, will not inherit the Kingdom of God. Because of the way this has been translated in english, people often believe that this just means having sex before marriage. The word in Greek is pornea (where the english word "porn" comes from). pornea means anything or any kind of sexual activity taking place outside the sanctity of marriage. this includes but is not limited to porn, strip clubs, and masturbating.
due to this, i believe masturbation is sin. do not be discouraged though, because all things are possible with God and He will not let you be tempted beyond what you can handle. He provides a way out, always!
in I Cor. 6:9 Paul says that the sexually immoral, among others, will not inherit the Kingdom of God. Because of the way this has been translated in english, people often believe that this just means having sex before marriage. The word in Greek is pornea (where the english word "porn" comes from). pornea means anything or any kind of sexual activity taking place outside the sanctity of marriage. this includes but is not limited to porn, strip clubs, and masturbating.
due to this, i believe masturbation is sin. do not be discouraged though, because all things are possible with God and He will not let you be tempted beyond what you can handle. He provides a way out, always!
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whats wrong with it. it helps the mood seriosuly if your idea of sex is just put it in do your buiness then thats it its gona be boring effortless disappointing whats wrong with doing abit of foreplay masturbationg oral before the final goal doing these things before "planting your seed" makes it more enjoyable pleasurable fun and loveing
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sex is about alot of things but thinking sex is just for makeing babies and the pleasure is a side effect is in all honesty not a healthy way to think about lets say you have a girlfriend or because your a christian lets say a wife now the only reason that you will have sex is to have a baby and your not ready to have a kid till your say 35 so you avoid sex you avoid french kissing you avoid seeing her naked anything that tempts you from haveing sex she is gona start to think that you dont find her attractive that you dont love her and the whole kid thing is just an excuse this is an unhealthy relationship now doing some different sexual activites keeping things freash pleasureing each other show great love and affection for one another.
and by your logic of you only have sex so you can reproduce anything that cant shouldnt be together becuase whats the point of them doing it
the point is easy sex has more meaning than reproducing
now going back to the infertile business i dont see why your not against them your against gays because they have sex and cant reproduce lets call this wasted sex. you think that their ways harm your ways and drag people away from christianty and accepting it as normal ok now lets look at straight infertile people surely they are a bigger threat because they cant have children they cant do gods will they can have relationships with christians and christ they are stopping christian family being born becuase they cant give birth they shouldnt allow to have relationships whats the point they cant have family there stealing the fertile people.
can you honeslty tell me by your standard why infertile people should even bother with relationships or sex
and by your logic of you only have sex so you can reproduce anything that cant shouldnt be together becuase whats the point of them doing it
the point is easy sex has more meaning than reproducing
now going back to the infertile business i dont see why your not against them your against gays because they have sex and cant reproduce lets call this wasted sex. you think that their ways harm your ways and drag people away from christianty and accepting it as normal ok now lets look at straight infertile people surely they are a bigger threat because they cant have children they cant do gods will they can have relationships with christians and christ they are stopping christian family being born becuase they cant give birth they shouldnt allow to have relationships whats the point they cant have family there stealing the fertile people.
can you honeslty tell me by your standard why infertile people should even bother with relationships or sex
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if i knew you was gona say that i wouldnt of bothered making a long paragraph speech you just admitted that sex insist just about making babies so then what is your real problem gays have sex not for the purpose of making babies. if your gona waste sperm not making babies during sex then what is wrong with masturbating
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On the contrary, thinking about children being a 'side effect' of sex is unhealthy.
The rest of your post betrayed an error, a common one, but an error nontheless, in understanding. 'Just' or 'only' is not the same as 'primary'.
And again, there is nothing which defies the nature of sex by an infertile married couple having sex. Their infertility is accidental, whereas homosexual sex is by its very nature infertile.
The rest of your post betrayed an error, a common one, but an error nontheless, in understanding. 'Just' or 'only' is not the same as 'primary'.
And again, there is nothing which defies the nature of sex by an infertile married couple having sex. Their infertility is accidental, whereas homosexual sex is by its very nature infertile.
M
I'm not at all going back on myself. I'm really not sure what I've said that's confusing. A thing can have several purposes, but still have one purpose above the rest that is primary, to which the secondary purposes are subservient.
For instance, pleasure may be a purpose of sex, but it is subservient to the primary procreative function. So sex just for pleasure, with means taken to negate or subvert the primary procreative aspect (or if the nature of the act in question denies procreation) would be going against the nature of the sex act.
For instance, pleasure may be a purpose of sex, but it is subservient to the primary procreative function. So sex just for pleasure, with means taken to negate or subvert the primary procreative aspect (or if the nature of the act in question denies procreation) would be going against the nature of the sex act.
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