Truth And Misconceptions

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Wisdom comes from the Lord and so in reading His words, we should trust Him to enable us to receive the edification in the knowledge of Him so that our love may abound more and more. Anything that shifts the hope and focus off of Jesus to yourself or some other means... is doing what it is.. taking your eyes and hopes off of Jesus. May He help you to see the difference.

Believers have a tendency to use scripture to put an emphasis on something to lead us away from resting in Jesus for salvation. They will believe it and so feel the need to be judgmental ( as in condemning and not the correctional kind of being judgmental done in love) because they think that if they do not show the severity of their
"interpretation", then they are not loving you enough in telling the truth, but... in all things... no matter what is shared, one has to take it to Jesus in prayer for wisdom comes from the Lord.


Proverbs 20:11Even a child is known by his doings, whether his work be pure, and whether it be right. 12The hearing ear, and the seeing eye, the LORD hath made even both of them.

Proverbs 2:For the LORD giveth wisdom: out of his mouth cometh knowledge and understanding.

Some example of overzealousness on the scriptures that are bringing misconceptions in regards to salvation.......

Some believe that water baptism is essential for salvation. There are verses that declares it... for the Jews. That is the one thing that is being overlooked. When the Gentiles in the Book of Acts got saved, they were hearing these words below and then as they believed, they received the Holy Ghost before water baptism as the Jews were astonished at this.

Acts 10:34Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:

35But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.
36The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ: (he is Lord of all:)
37That word, I say, ye know, which was published throughout all Judaea, and began from Galilee, after the baptism which John preached;
38How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.
39And we are witnesses of all things which he did both in the land of the Jews, and in Jerusalem; whom they slew and hanged on a tree:
40Him God raised up the third day, and shewed him openly;
41Not to all the people, but unto witnesses chosen before God, even to us, who did eat and drink with him after he rose from the dead.
42And he commanded us to preach unto the people, and to testify that it is he which was ordained of God to be the Judge of quick and dead.
43To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.
44While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.
45And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.
46For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter,
47Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we? 48And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.

Note verse 43. That was the purpose of water baptism for the Jews, and yet for the Gentiles in verse 43, by believing in Jesus, the Gentiles have received the remission of sin, becoming a new creature in Christ and thus were ready to be filled, sealed, and saved by Jesus Christ with the baptism of the Holy Ghost.

This is the reference for the water baptism for the remission of sins in order for the Jews to receive the Holy Ghost given below:

Acts 2: 37Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do? 38Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. 39For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the LORD our God shall call.

Why the difference? The Jews represented God in according to the Old Covenant by the deeds of the Law so for them to declare the New Covenant, the Jews had to show that they were moving away from the Old Covenant and entering the New by showing that they belive Jesus is the Christ and thus water baptism in Jesus' name was significant as a step of faith and public witness that they were now believers in Jesus.

Now noting references from Acts 10:34-48, we can see another misconception being spread around by some believers that signs follow believers in order to know that they are saved. Not so. Jesus did say that signs will follow the believers, but the signs will not lead the believers in knowing that they are saved. Signs are not what saves us. Believing in Jesus is. Signs are for unbelievers.. for believers to seek after a sign to know that they are saved is to be labouring in unbelief away from the rest provided by the Bridegroom..... by offering another invitation for these signs but not towards Jesus Christ... and forgetting what the signs are for.

1 Corinthians 14: 21In the law it is written, With men of other tongues and other lips will I speak unto this people; and yet for all that will they not hear me, saith the Lord. 22Wherefore tongues are for a sign, not to them that believe, but to them that believe not: but prophesying serveth not for them that believe not, but for them which believe.

Matthew 16:4A wicked and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given unto it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas. And he left them, and departed.


Believers in Jesus Christ should know they are saved because the Spirit is given by promise.. not by our effort. Salvation wasn't received by our effort so why should the Spirit? Salvation is a gift of God as the Holy Spirit is a promise from God. They are not mutually exclusive. They are intertwined and together for coming to and believing in Jesus Christ.

Matthew 9: 17Neither do men put new wine into old bottles: else the bottles break, and the wine runneth out, and the bottles perish: but they put new wine into new bottles, and both are preserved.

Ephesians 1: 12That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ. 13In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, 14Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory. 15Wherefore I also, after I heard of your faith in the Lord Jesus, and love unto all the saints,

Hebrews 11: 1Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen..... 6But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.

Galatians 3:14That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.... 26For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.

We are not proven to be children of God by signs... but by faith in Jesus Christ.

So by the two examples of misconceptions, we can see how they take away our hope and rest in Jesus by placing an emphasis on ourselves for salvation or for some assurrances that we are saved.

If anyone doubts their salvation.. just go over the promises of God in Christ Jesus.

2 Corinthians 1: 19For the Son of God, Jesus Christ, who was preached among you by us, even by me and Silvanus and Timotheus, was not yea and nay, but in him was yea. 20For all the promises of God in him are yea, and in him Amen, unto the glory of God by us. 21Now he which stablisheth us with you in Christ, and hath anointed us, is God;

John 3:16For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

Ephesians 2: 8For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9Not of works, lest any man should boast. 10For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.




So when we walk in the Spirit as the Lord Jesus Christ leads us as Our Good Shepherd, He will help us to live the christian life so our hope and faith are still on Jesus.

Galatians 2: 20I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

So whenever you come across scriptures that causes doubts as overzealous wayward believers emphasize some merit on your part to do God's work in you, may He remind you of this: does it lead you away from Him and your rest in Him or.... not?

John 5: 39Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. 40And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.


John 6:28Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God? 29Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.

Galatians 3:14That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.... 26For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.

Romans 10:8But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach; 9That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. 10For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

Now go and enjoy your relationship with God for He shall be with you always. Amen.
 
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Dude, why are all your posts so long? I can be done reading War& Peace in the time it takes to get through your exhaustive threads!!
 
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Why the difference? The Jews represented God in according to the Old Covenant by the deeds of the Law so for them to declare the New Covenant, the Jews had to show that they were moving away from the Old Covenant and entering the New by showing that they belive Jesus is the Christ and thus water baptism in Jesus' name was significant as a step of faith and public witness that they were now believers in Jesus.
A misconception is your reference to 'The Jews' representing God in accordance to the Old Covenant. It is the Israelites who were under the Old Covenant that was given to them on Mt Sinai, now in no way has the modern word "Jew" ever been by definition an Israelite. The word translated as "Jew" in modern English Bibles is the Greek word Iouda or Ioudaios.

Strong's Exhuastive Concordance:

Jew:

Greek #2453. 'Ioudaios, ee-oo-dah'-yos; from 2448 (in the sense of 2455 AS A COUNTRY); Judean, i.e. belonging to Jehudah:-Jew (-ess), OF JUDEA.

Greek #2448. Iouda, ee-oo-dah'; of Heb. or [3063 or perh. 3194]; Judah (i.e. Jehudah or Juttah), A PART OF (or place in) Pal.:-JUDEAN.

An Etymological Dictionary of the English Language. Walter W. Skeat:

Jew:

Greek. 'Ioudaios, an inhabitant of JUDEA.

A 'Jew' according with the historical definition of the word means an inhabitant of the geographical area of biblical Judea or modern day Palestine, it does not mean a Israelite or a Hebrew.

"A brief History of the Terms for Jew" in the 1980 Jewish Almanac is the following statement: 'Strictly speaking it is incorrect to call an ancient Israelite a 'Jew' or to call a contemporary Jew an Isrealite or a Hebrew.' (1980 Jewish Almanac, p.3)
 
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A misconception is your reference to 'The Jews' representing God in accordance to the Old Covenant. It is the Israelites who were under the Old Covenant that was given to them on Mt Sinai, now in no way has the modern word "Jew" ever been by definition an Israelite. The word translated as "Jew" in modern English Bibles is the Greek word Iouda or Ioudaios.

Strong's Exhuastive Concordance:

Jew:

Greek #2453. 'Ioudaios, ee-oo-dah'-yos; from 2448 (in the sense of 2455 AS A COUNTRY); Judean, i.e. belonging to Jehudah:-Jew (-ess), OF JUDEA.

Greek #2448. Iouda, ee-oo-dah'; of Heb. or [3063 or perh. 3194]; Judah (i.e. Jehudah or Juttah), A PART OF (or place in) Pal.:-JUDEAN.

An Etymological Dictionary of the English Language. Walter W. Skeat:

Jew:

Greek. 'Ioudaios, an inhabitant of JUDEA.

A 'Jew' according with the historical definition of the word means an inhabitant of the geographical area of biblical Judea or modern day Palestine, it does not mean a Israelite or a Hebrew.

"A brief History of the Terms for Jew" in the 1980 Jewish Almanac is the following statement: 'Strictly speaking it is incorrect to call an ancient Israelite a 'Jew' or to call a contemporary Jew an Isrealite or a Hebrew.' (1980 Jewish Almanac, p.3)

I think it is you that may have the misconception:

2ki 16:6At that time Rezin king of Syria recovered Elath to Syria, and drave the JEWs from Elath: and the Syrians came to Elath, and dwelt there unto this day.

Ezr 6:7Let the work of this house of God alone; let the governor of the JEWs and the elders of the JEWs build this house of God in his place.

[SIZE=+1]ydwhy [/SIZE]Y@huwdiy (yeh-hoo-dee'); Noun Masculine, Strong #: 3064

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'Strictly speaking it is incorrect to call an ancient Israelite a 'Jew' or to call a contemporary Jew an Isrealite or a Hebrew.' so I guess we know what you think about the Bible, I would be very careful on this ground you are treading on, saying that the Word of God is incorrect :

Ezr 5:5But the eye of their God was upon the elders of the JEWs, that they could not cause them to cease, till the matter came to Darius: and then they returned answer by letter concerning this matter.



 
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Very Good post, Baruch. It's all God

1ch 16:35And say ye, Save us, O GOD of our SALVATION, and gather us together, and deliver us from the heathen, that we may give thanks to thy holy name, and glory in thy praise.


Tit 2:11For the grace of GOD that bringeth SALVATION hath appeared to all men,
 
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A misconception is your reference to 'The Jews' representing God in accordance to the Old Covenant. It is the Israelites who were under the Old Covenant that was given to them on Mt Sinai, now in no way has the modern word "Jew" ever been by definition an Israelite. The word translated as "Jew" in modern English Bibles is the Greek word Iouda or Ioudaios.

Strong's Exhuastive Concordance:

Jew:

Greek #2453. 'Ioudaios, ee-oo-dah'-yos; from 2448 (in the sense of 2455 AS A COUNTRY); Judean, i.e. belonging to Jehudah:-Jew (-ess), OF JUDEA.

Greek #2448. Iouda, ee-oo-dah'; of Heb. or [3063 or perh. 3194]; Judah (i.e. Jehudah or Juttah), A PART OF (or place in) Pal.:-JUDEAN.

An Etymological Dictionary of the English Language. Walter W. Skeat:

Jew:

Greek. 'Ioudaios, an inhabitant of JUDEA.

A 'Jew' according with the historical definition of the word means an inhabitant of the geographical area of biblical Judea or modern day Palestine, it does not mean a Israelite or a Hebrew.

"A brief History of the Terms for Jew" in the 1980 Jewish Almanac is the following statement: 'Strictly speaking it is incorrect to call an ancient Israelite a 'Jew' or to call a contemporary Jew an Isrealite or a Hebrew.' (1980 Jewish Almanac, p.3)

I have heard of people who would argue with a stop sign , now I have heard of a person that will argue with a dictionary;

Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913 + 1828)

ARTFL > Webster's Dictionary > Searching for jew:
Displaying 1 result(s) from the 1828 edition:
JEW, n. [a contraction of Judas of Judah.] A Hebrew or Israelite.
 
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Baruch

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Dude, why are all your posts so long? I can be done reading War& Peace in the time it takes to get through your exhaustive threads!!
LOL!

I am wondering about what the people had thought when they heard Jesus' Sermon on the Mount, but I believe they had listened.

I can only hope that God causes the increase since I do have a weakness of getting too involved in sharing the talents the Lord has given me.. and not always too clearly, either, but I believe He is bigger than me. I am leaning on Him to help me take a backseat to "getting the point across" by letting Him work in causing the increase.

Sorry if I wore you out. :)
 
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Baruch

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Very Good post, Baruch. It's all God

1ch 16:35And say ye, Save us, O GOD of our SALVATION, and gather us together, and deliver us from the heathen, that we may give thanks to thy holy name, and glory in thy praise.


Tit 2:11For the grace of GOD that bringeth SALVATION hath appeared to all men,
Thanks for the words of encouragement, Pastor Keith.

I do have a tendency to get too involved in correcting a wayward brother that I go beyond the "once and twice rebuke" guideline. Only God can cause the increase, and I have to know when to let go of a discourse with someone when it becomes an argument (as if I can win someone by a persuasion of my speech by reasoning through the scriptures as if by common sense). I am trusting Him to help me serve Him better.

Thanks again for the words of encouragment. :)
 
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Dude, why are all your posts so long? I can be done reading War& Peace in the time it takes to get through your exhaustive threads!!
Same here....
 
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I think it is you that may have the misconception:

2ki 16:6At that time Rezin king of Syria recovered Elath to Syria, and drave the JEWs from Elath: and the Syrians came to Elath, and dwelt there unto this day.

2 Kings 16:6 is a verse that I would use to further support my statements that I made in response to the misconception that the "Jews" are the ancient Israelites, the Word of God does not define the "Jews" as Israelites.

2 Kings 16:1 - "In the seventeenth year of Pekah the son of Remaliah Ahaz the son of Jotham king of Judah began to reign" Now we read here in keeping with the distinction God makes between Israel and Judah at this time Pekah becomes king of Israel and Ahaz becomes king of Judah.

2 Kings 16:5 - "Then Rezin king of Syria and Pekah son of Remaliah king of Israel come up to Jerusalem to war: and they besieged Ahaz, but could not over come him" Here we read that Pekah who was king of Israel and Rezin king of Syria were allies at war with the king of Judah and were besieging Jerusalem.

2 Kings 16:6 - "At that time Rezin king of Syria recovered Elath to Syria, and drove out the Jews from Elath and the Syrians came to Elath, and dwelt there unto this day" This is the first time the english word "Jews" is used in the Bible and it refers to people who were dwelling in Elath, the first time we here of a people called "Jews" and they are dwelling in a seaside port on the Red Sea and they are at war with Syria and Israel! Elath was captured by King David and King Solomon built a fleet at Ezion Geber which is next to Elath on the shore of the Red Sea, in the land of Edom (1 Kings 9:26)

Being as it is that Elath was a city that was captured by King David it was originally a foreign city of strategic importance in the land of Edom, when the city was possessed by the Kingdom of Judah the city and the people therein became known as subjects of Judah for they were under Judah juristriction. Elath was not a city inhabited by decendents of Judah only or Israelites it was a captured Edomite city!

2 Kings 25:25 - "But it came to pass in the seventh month, that Ismael the son of Netaniah, the son of Elishama, of the seed royal, came, and ten men with him, and smote Gedaliah, that he died, and the Jews and the Chaldees that were with him at Mizpah." Gedaliah was made govorner over the land of Judah by Nebuchadnezzar after the people of the tribe of Judah were taken into captivity (2 Kings 25:21) next verse; "And as for the people that remained in the land of Judah, whom Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon had left, even over them he made Gedaliah the son of Ahikam, the son of Shphan, ruler" The tribe of Judah taken away but those who remained were other people not of Judah.

The Bible tells us at this stage the english word "Jews" is not used to describe the tribe of Judah carried off into captivity but rather those people that were inhabitants of the land of Judah that remained, it is also notable that those left behind were also Chaldees, the linguistic origin of the word "Jews" is in fact Chaldean! Seeming the first reference in the Bible to these "Jews" is that they were from Elath (2 Kings 16:16 in the land of Edom. Abraham, Isaac or Jacob in the Old Testament are never descibed with this word "Jews" whose origin is neither Hebrew or Israelite but Edomite.

First understand that the verse is taken from a decree made by Darius who spoke Chaldean and we see that he uses the Chaldean word 'Yehuwdiy' which means a Judahite #3064 Strong's, consider that the word "Jew" is a 17th Century English translation and consder as Ezra tells us that there were many peoples other then the tribe of returned Judah in the land of Judah, Darius says 'governor' and a governor has legal authority over a state which in this case is Judah, those under this authority are subjects of the land of Judah and Darius would only know them as Judahites given that the Bible tells us that they were of mixed ethnic origin. There are decendants of Judah in the land because they had returned, but remember in 2 Kings the Bible says that Judah was taken into captivity but the "jews" and Chaldees and other peoples remained. When Darius also says 'Elders of the Jews', Darius means those in charge as elders of the Judahites to rebuild God's temple are elders of the 'Judahites', which is a subject of the land of Judah or a decendant of Judah, Darius uses the Chaldean word as this is the only word he has to use to descibe those in Judea or the land of Judah which in Chaldee is 'Yehuwd' which of course cannot and does not from a Babylonian perspective distinguish between ethnicity but is linguistically proven to relate to the geographical location of Judea or Judah.

'Strictly speaking it is incorrect to call an ancient Israelite a 'Jew' or to call a contemporary Jew an Isrealite or a Hebrew.' so I guess we know what you think about the Bible, I would be very careful on this ground you are treading on, saying that the Word of God is incorrect :
According to the Bible itself 'it is incorrect to call an ancient Israelite a 'Jew' or to call a contemporary Jew an Israelite or a Hebrew.' And I have made reference to the fact that in Rabbinical writings the Jews themselves agree with this.


Again the word in this verse is of Chaldean origin and according to Strong's Exhaustive Concordance; #3064 Yehuwdah (Chald.); patrial from #3061; a Judahite, i.e. Jew:-Jew.

#3061. Yehuwd (Chald.), yeh-hood; contra. from aq form corresp. to 3063; prop Judah, hence, Judea:- Jewry, Judah, Judea.

So we go back to 2 Kings 16:16 where the Chaldean name 'Yehuwd' originally meant a subject of the captive city of Elath that was at war with Israel! So why do we have the same word used when it is not an accurate description, well the answer is in the translation and the etymological evolution of the English word Jew and how it has come to be used - falsely. If I read in the oldest Old Testament manuscripts and then translate from Koine Greek into English as can be found in many Bible's still today I read verse that affirms my statements further, for example:

Ezra 5:5: "But the eyes of God were upon the captivity of Judah, and they did not cause them to cease till the decree was brought to Darius; and then was sent by the tribute gatherer concerning this"

Or as in Rotherham's Translation: Ezra 5:5 "Nevertheless the eye of their God was upon the elders of Judah, and they did not forbid them, until the matter unto Darius should come, and then answer be returned by letter, concerning this"

I could go through dozens of Bible translations for you that would all like the KJV prove more or less that it is indeed incorrect to refer to ancient Israelites or Hebrews by the modern English word "Jews".
 
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Baruch

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...but... but... you are wearing your seatbelt. Weren't you expecting a long ride? *snicker*

Whoah.. a short post. Guess you will not need your seatbelt for this one. :)

You are welcome. :)
 
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1ch 16:35And say ye, Save us, O GOD of our SALVATION, and gather us together, and deliver us from the heathen, that we may give thanks to thy holy name, and glory in thy praise.


Tit 2:11For the grace of GOD that bringeth SALVATION hath appeared to all men,
In expounding on those verses above, I have agreed with another brother in another forum that because the Temple fell, the representative of the Jewish people towards the Old Covenant is gone and thus no more necessity for the water baptism for the Jews as a public witness to be saved... since after His appearing, there will be 144,000 witnesses that God will pour out His Spirit on, and I do not believe He will be insisting they all be water baptized first just so He can do that.

Plus.. there are these verses below in expounding on the ones you had provided above as verse 12 levels the field for all the new converts with the declared promise in verse 13.

Romans 10:8But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach; 9That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. 10For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. 11For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. 12For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. 13For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. 14How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher? 15And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things! 16But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?

Makes me wonder if Romans was written after the fall of Jerusalem.
 
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I too back up the comment that your posts are lengthy. But also I have problem with your sentence of "Believers have a tendency to use scripture...." In that statement you are generalizing and accusing all, when perhaps all are not at fault.
 
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I too back up the comment that your posts are lengthy. But also I have problem with your sentence of "Believers have a tendency to use scripture...." In that statement you are generalizing and accusing all, when perhaps all are not at fault.
Thank you for your correction. There was a premise stated before that though, but I should have said "some" to clarify.

Wisdom comes from the Lord and so in reading His words, we should trust Him to enable us to receive the edification in the knowledge of Him so that our love may abound more and more. Anything that shifts the hope and focus off of Jesus to yourself or some other means... is doing what it is.. taking your eyes and hopes off of Jesus. May He help you to see the difference.

Believers have a tendency to use scripture to put an emphasis on something to lead us away from resting in Jesus for salvation.
Unfortunately ... the edit button is not available after two minutes past posting. Thanks again for the correction. Sorry for not being clear in my OP.
 
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