"Not by works" - false!

[eternally-gratefull]

Just for the record, again. I began saying that his people keep his commandments in this thread. It is a truth. I stand by it.

But I...

Never said perfectly.

Never said for salvation.

Never said to assist in salvation.

Never said we are saved by these.

Yet, the simpleton tribe attacked over it. Let's see "self-righteous" "works-preacher" and other derogatory names, championed by several others.

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I guarantee none of you would step up to me running your mouth like that in person. The internet affords you the opportunity to show your true selves behind your monitors.

And? God judges according to truth.

You called me a coward and your gonna go this low?

once again you do not practice what you preach

and if you called me a coward in personal I would get right in your face.

you opened a can of worms when you should have just kept it quiet. Now your complaining and angry because I have not backed down.

its on you man, your getting your own Medicine
as usual, you can give it out, but you can’t take it.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

One is a coward who has me on ignore so he can in safely sling mud. s.

yet I have been responding to you for two days now, and you have not said a word, or told the lie you accused me of.

you are reported again

 

[eternally-gratefull]

i also believe we are free. that we were in fact set free for freedom. free, indeed.
but we should not use this freedom as an occasion for the flesh. that would be stupid & counterproductive to our hope.

Amen

paul made this clear

 

[Judges1318]

Yes I agree...but that is the job of the Holy Spirit...he has changed my life beyond recognition......once I stopped working to try and change it myself that is.

I rely on God for everything...

And so it isn't a matter of whether faith can be 'alone' (it can't) but rather what is motivating works.
That's a legitimate point of discussion.
But because of bad teaching in the church we have to talk about if works are even required in the first place.

 

[preacher4truth]

You called me a coward and your gonna go this low?

once again you do not practice what you preach

and if you called me a coward in personal I would get right in your face.

you opened a can of worms when you should have just kept it quiet. Now your complaining and angry because I have not backed down.

its on you man, your getting your own Medicine
as usual, you can give it out, but you can’t take it.

Of course I called you this. When you tell someone they are on ignore, then call them a liar, other names, sling mud? That's a coward. Tell me that's not cowardly behavior.

And no, you wouldn't step to my face. I already invited to meet you in Westerville, OH, you're in Columbus, relatively the same, and you avoided answering my request.

Instead of putting me on ignore, then running your mouth about me, be a man, and take me off ignore. Better yet, get with me in PM and we can arrange things.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Of course I called you this. When you tell someone they are on ignore, then call them a liar, other names, sling mud? That's a coward. Tell me that's not cowardly behavior.

And no, you wouldn't step to my face. I already invited to meet you in Westerville, OH, you're in Columbus, relatively the same, and you avoided answering my request.

Instead of putting me on ignore, then running your mouth about me, be a man, and take me off ignore. Better yet, get with me in PM and we can arrange things.

When you continually attack and belittle anyone who questions what you believe, you can expect to be ignored, don’t blame the person who refuses to play your games because they want no part of it.. then when others call you out also, don’t blame the person who is chosing to not respond to you if he happens to agree with them
when it comes to slinging mud, your the master, look at you here proving how much of a bully you are you think fighting will solve all the problems and prove once and for all your right, that’s what we did in high school man. Why don’t you grow up and act your age. Or is that how your church thinks things are solved, with the fist.

as I said vengence is mine sage the lord. Jesus also said turn the other cheek. I guess acting christlike is foreign to you? You remind me of my father and his church, if people do not see it your way, attack, belittle mock, sling mud throw stones, throw fists, whatever you need to do to force them to submit to your will

i will decide if I will put you on ignore (god kn you deserve it) but I will do is keep reporting ever time you bash or throw mud at someone who does not agree with you, and slander them with lies

once again, you claimed I lied about you. PROVE IT!

 

[preacher4truth]

When you continually attack and belittle anyone who questions what you believe, you can expect to be ignored, don’t blame the person who refuses to play your games because they want no part of it.. then when others call you out also, don’t blame the person who is chosing to not respond to you if he happens to agree with them
when it comes to slinging mud, your the master, look at you here proving how much of a bully you are you think fighting will solve all the problems and prove once and for all your right, that’s what we did in high school man. Why don’t you grow up and act your age. Or is that how your church thinks things are solved, with the fist.

as I said vengence is mine sage the lord. Jesus also said turn the other cheek. I guess acting christlike is foreign to you? You remind me of my father and his church, if people do not see it your way, attack, belittle mock, sling mud throw stones, throw fists, whatever you need to do to force them to submit to your will

i will decide if I will put you on ignore (god kn you deserve it) but I will do is keep reporting ever time you bash or throw mud at someone who does not agree with you, and slander them with lies

once again, you claimed I lied about you. PROVE IT!

Oh, blah blah blah! You're so disingenuous it's sickening.

Look, you had me on ignore, then ran your mouth about me. Right?

That's cowardly behavior. I called you on it. Now tell me how that isn't cowardly behavior, to keep on calling a person names, belittling them, calling them a liar and the other juvenile things you've done, after putting them on ignore. That's not the behavior of a coward?????

Read 1 Corinthians 16:13.

Find one place where I "slandered" a person for disagreeing with me. You won't, because it never happened, so what you've said is the slander.

Now, can I find posts of yours while you had me on ignore, calling me names, slandering, like a coward? Yep. Many.

Furthermore you describe yourself. Many Reformed on here can testify how you slammed them, lied about their beliefs, mocked and ridiculed them, told them you were putting them on ignore, called them silly names, told them what they believe when they showed you that it isn't true, no matter to you though, you just kept it up. Some are still here and can testify to it.

Feel free to put me on ignore, I don't care, it's cowardly as well. But I will tell you this, you start your juvenile name calling again afterwards, I'm going to call you what you are.

 

[1ofthem]

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Of course I called you this. When you tell someone they are on ignore, then call them a liar, other names, sling mud? That's a coward. Tell me that's not cowardly behavior.

And no, you wouldn't step to my face. I already invited to meet you in Westerville, OH, you're in Columbus, relatively the same, and you avoided answering my request.

Instead of putting me on ignore, then running your mouth about me, be a man, and take me off ignore. Better yet, get with me in PM and we can arrange things.

I'm just going to say it...This is horrible. No need for this type of behavior. You need to chill dude...just saying....

 

[preacher4truth]

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I'm just going to say it...This is horrible. No need for this type of behavior. You need to chill dude...just saying....

No, he needs to chill, and so do you, and learn to mind your own business, this isn't about you, and your judgment is imbalanced as I will show you lastly.

I offered an olive branch to meet him. Nope. Not going to do it. It's easier for him to continue his campaign and sling mud.

What does he do instead? Continues the juvenile name calling and slander while having me on ignore. That's cowardly behavior, and he was called on it.

He has no evidence of my alleged slander because it doesn't exist, and he's been saying this for years now. His entire post is fabricated nonsense, but I can find many of his posts where he's done exactly what I stated,

Now, if you were being honest, you'd call him out for his behavior. But, you have a crowd to please instead of honesty to practice.

 

[JamOn]

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Oh, blah blah blah! You're so disingenuous it's sickening.

Look, you had me on ignore, then ran your mouth about me. Right?

That's cowardly behavior. I called you on it. Now tell me how that isn't cowardly behavior, to keep on calling a person names, belittling them, calling them a liar and the other juvenile things you've done, after putting them on ignore. That's not the behavior of a coward?????

Read 1 Corinthians 16:13.

Find one place where I "slandered" a person for disagreeing with me. You won't, because it never happened, so what you've said is the slander.

Now, can I find posts of yours while you had me on ignore, calling me names, slandering, like a coward? Yep. Many.

Furthermore you describe yourself. Many Reformed on here can testify how you slammed them, lied about their beliefs, mocked and ridiculed them, told them you were putting them on ignore, called them silly names, told them what they believe when they showed you that it isn't true, no matter to you though, you just kept it up. Some are still here and can testify to it.

Feel free to put me on ignore, I don't care, it's cowardly as well. But I will tell you this, you start your juvenile name calling again afterwards, I'm going to call you what you are.

Keep talking, every time you prove me right

good day sir

i have more important things to do

my threat was no threat, when you do it, (attack,people,who,disagree with you, I will report you

 

[eternally-gratefull]

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I'm just going to say it...This is horrible. No need for this type of behavior. You need to chill dude...just saying....

It is sad..

 

[eternally-gratefull]

No, he needs to chill, and so do you, and learn to mind your own business, this isn't about you, and your judgment is imbalanced as I will show you lastly.

I offered an olive branch to meet him. Nope. Not going to do it. It's easier for him to continue his campaign and sling mud.

What does he do instead? Continues the juvenile name calling and slander while having me on ignore. That's cowardly behavior, and he was called on it.

He has no evidence of my alleged slander because it doesn't exist, and he's been saying this for years now. His entire post is fabricated nonsense, but I can find many of his posts where he's done exactly what I stated,

Now, if you were being honest, you'd call him out for his behavior. But, you have a crowd to please instead of honesty to practice.

see you can’t help yourself! You get so angry when people call you out

again you accuse me of slander but have no proof.

 

[EleventhHour]

No, he needs to chill, and so do you, and learn to mind your own business, this isn't about you, and your judgment is imbalanced as I will show you lastly.

I offered an olive branch to meet him. Nope. Not going to do it. It's easier for him to continue his campaign and sling mud.

What does he do instead? Continues the juvenile name calling and slander while having me on ignore. That's cowardly behavior, and he was called on it.

He has no evidence of my alleged slander because it doesn't exist, and he's been saying this for years now. His entire post is fabricated nonsense, but I can find many of his posts where he's done exactly what I stated,

Now, if you were being honest, you'd call him out for his behavior. But, you have a crowd to please instead of honesty to practice.

You make public statements call us simpletons and fools and then want us to mind our own business.

You slander as well.. and I do not apologize for my stance the salvation is a gift .. no strings attached...and no submission is not part of the requirement to be saved.

I was in your school of thought for many years and it was the most joyless christian walk I ever experienced.

If you are happy there good for you, does not mean the rest of us are wrong or that we lead lives of debauchery that is just shameful to keep throwing that up to our faces.

 

[preacher4truth]

@EleventhHour I've called you all what you in fact are. Secondly, you've offered the same, but dishonestly and with baseless ridicule and accusations.

I don't have you on ignore, but you will be ignored.

Second moniker of yours, second time, you've earned ignore with both of them. Sadly and frankly in your two monikers on here you haven't grown in grace, knowledge, or maturity.

Get your last word in, but you'll be ignored, you always end up the same in the end, ridiculing, mocking, slandering.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

lol

the double standard he is amazing

 

[EleventhHour]

@EleventhHour I've called you all what you in fact are. Secondly, you've offered the same, but dishonestly and with baseless ridicule and accusations.

I don't have you on ignore, but you will be ignored.

Second moniker of yours, second time, you've earned ignore with both of them. Sadly and frankly in your two monikers on here you haven't grown in grace, knowledge, or maturity.

Get your last word in, but you'll be ignored, you always end up the same in the end, ridiculing, mocking, slandering.

Such irony...

The endless search for proof of salvation

If you had stood firm against DuBarrage"s false gospel, I might have retained some respect for you...but instead you seized the opportunity to try to prove your superiority over another true brother in Christ.

 

[EleventhHour]

@EleventhHour I've called you all what you in fact are. Secondly, you've offered the same, but dishonestly and with baseless ridicule and accusations.

I don't have you on ignore, but you will be ignored.

Second moniker of yours, second time, you've earned ignore with both of them. Sadly and frankly in your two monikers on here you haven't grown in grace, knowledge, or maturity.

Get your last word in, but you'll be ignored, you always end up the same in the end, ridiculing, mocking, slandering.

I will not put you on ignore ...I think that would be rather cowardice of me.

 

[Sackcloth-N-Ashes]

I'm just going to say it...This is horrible. No need for this type of behavior. You need to chill dude...just saying....

He did extend an olive branch and was ignored...pardon the pun.

 

[Judges1318]

where's that verse where Jesus says "whoever changes their behavior will have eternal life, even if they die, they will live" ?

hmm or maybe i'm thinking of another "believe" verse.

Believing in Christ's forgiveness for eternal life is evidenced by a change in behavior.

47 "...I tell you, her many sins have been forgiven—as her great love has shown. But whoever has been forgiven little loves little.”

50 Jesus said to the woman, “Your faith has saved you; go in peace.”

Luke 7:47,50

Her faith saved her. Not her works.
Her works of love were just the evidence of her faith.
Her love is what showed her to be forgiven in Christ.
Ultimately, you can't separate changed behavior from having your sins forgiven.