"Not by works" - false!

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Yeah, when the OP gets banned and the title is unbiblical, what do you expect??!!

If someone wants to do better, they should call their post "BY MY WORKS" James 2:18. Maybe I should, but I don't have the time to do it now!! LOL!
lol..I will get the popcorn out if you do it!
 
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Titus 3:5
not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to His mercy He saved us, through the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Spirit,

Is this a completed action. or is it in the future?
Past tense completed action and eternally GIVEN BY FAITH without works!!
 
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I think you will find it was Jesus who overcame the world.....what part did we play?
The person you are addressing in this post absolutely denies eternal security, denies JESUS finishes and completes faith in us and flatly states WE must ________ or lose salvation....!
 
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The person you are addressing in this post absolutely denies eternal security, denies JESUS finishes and completes faith in us and flatly states WE must ________ or lose salvation....!
Everybody who believes in Christ is eternally secure in Christ. That's why you should continue to believe in the finished work of Christ.

2By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain." - 1 Corinthians 15:2

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The person you are addressing in this post absolutely denies eternal security, denies JESUS finishes and completes faith in us and flatly states WE must ________ or lose salvation....!

Oh dear....how can we lose being born again.....oh well...I guess I need to respect their belief...but I certainly donā€™t have to agree with it....
 
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Oh dear....how can we lose being born again.....
...by not having a heart in which the word is firmly and deeply rooted:

"13Those on the rocky ground are the ones who receive the word with joy when they hear it, but they have no root. They believe for a while, but in the time of testing they fall away." - Luke 8:13

Only in the good and noble heart where the word is retained and flourishing in continued believing is salvation retained:

"15But the seed on good soil stands for those with a noble and good heart, who hear the word, retain it, and by persevering produce a crop." - Luke 8:15

The condition of your heart determines if you're going to persevere in the faith and remain saved, or fall away in unbelief and be lost.
 
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...by not having a heart in which the word is firmly and deeply rooted:

"13Those on the rocky ground are the ones who receive the word with joy when they hear it, but they have no root. They believe for a while, but in the time of testing they fall away." - Luke 8:13

Only in the good and noble heart where the word is retained and flourishing in continued believing is salvation retained:

"15But the seed on good soil stands for those with a noble and good heart, who hear the word, retain it, and by persevering produce a crop." - Luke 8:15

The condition of your heart determines if you're going to persevere in the faith and remain saved, or fall away in unbelief and be lost.


If a person loses salvation...then they were never saved in the first place.

Who ever the Father gives to Jesus.....he will never lose one...not one...
 
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...by not having a heart in which the word is firmly and deeply rooted:

"13Those on the rocky ground are the ones who receive the word with joy when they hear it, but they have no root. They believe for a while, but in the time of testing they fall away." - Luke 8:13

Only in the good and noble heart where the word is retained and flourishing in continued believing is salvation retained:

"15But the seed on good soil stands for those with a noble and good heart, who hear the word, retain it, and by persevering produce a crop." - Luke 8:15

The condition of your heart determines if you're going to persevere in the faith and remain saved, or fall away in unbelief and be lost.

Only in the good and noble heart where the word is retained and flourishing in continued believing is salvation retained:
I guess heaven is empty of "humans" except for the one who went to sit at the right hand of the Father.
 
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John:6:37:40 All that the Father gives me will come to me and I will never drive away.
For I have come down from heaven not to do my will but to do the will of him who sent me,that I shall lose none of all that he has given me,but raise them up at the last day.
For my Fatherā€™s will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life,and I will raise him up at the last day.
 
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We were given to Jesus by God almighty...he knew and knows the born agains ,we are his children....which is the biggest honour anyone can receive!......Praise His Holy Name!
 
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...by not having a heart in which the word is firmly and deeply rooted:

"13Those on the rocky ground are the ones who receive the word with joy when they hear it, but they have no root. They believe for a while, but in the time of testing they fall away." - Luke 8:13

Only in the good and noble heart where the word is retained and flourishing in continued believing is salvation retained:

"15But the seed on good soil stands for those with a noble and good heart, who hear the word, retain it, and by persevering produce a crop." - Luke 8:15

The condition of your heart determines if you're going to persevere in the faith and remain saved, or fall away in unbelief and be lost.
Jesus gives the born again believer a new heart.... they are a new creation.

2 Corinthians 5:17
Therefore if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation. The old has passed away. Behold, the new has come!
 

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Peter said to ā€œaddā€ to your faith.

2 Peter 1:5,10
[5] And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith ...[10] Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall

Was he a so-called ā€œlordship salvationistā€.

He also said you could cease from sin:

1 Peter 4:1
[1] Forasmuch then as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves likewise with the same mind: for he that hath suffered in the flesh hath ceased from sin
Does "adding to our faith" increase our chance of salvation or does one with no works become unsaved despite what 1 Corinthians 3:14-15 states? If what has been built survives, the builder will receive a reward. If it is burned up, the builder will suffer loss but yet will be saved--even though only as one escaping through the flames.
 
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Everybody who believes in Christ is eternally secure in Christ. That's why you should continue to believe in the finished work of Christ.

2By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain." - 1 Corinthians 15:2

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We all know what you believe....a self maintained losable salvation not found in scripture!!
 
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John:6:37:40 All that the Father gives me will come to me and I will never drive away.
For I have come down from heaven not to do my will but to do the will of him who sent me,that I shall lose none of all that he has given me,but raise them up at the last day.
For my Fatherā€™s will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life,and I will raise him up at the last day.
He will say he believes that and then say salvation can be lost if WE DO NOT MAINTAIN our own faith while denying JESUS begins, finishes and COMPLETES the work of faith in us!
 
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Jesus gives the born again believer a new heart.... they are a new creation.

2 Corinthians 5:17
Therefore if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation. The old has passed away. Behold, the new has come!
He will say he believes that and then say salvation can be lost if WE DO NOT MAINTAIN our own faith while denying JESUS begins, finishes and COMPLETES the work of faith in us!

He can say what he likes....but I donā€™t have to agree with him.....a born again can never lose their salvation...I certainly wonā€™t argue over it.........God gave me that truth to my spirit and no one will ever convince me otherwise.......itā€™s a great security we have in our wonderful Father......Praise His Holy Name.