PRAY WOMEN! PRAY!!!!!!!

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Sweetheart it might help you understand Ramon to know he just became Christain recently and is rejoicing in his new found freedom from sin. I'm hoping he will eventually learn to converse with people instead of just at them.

Do you remember the joy and exburence you first felt when you first learned and accepted Jesus and just wanted to tell the wholewide world about it?

That is the state I see Ramon in and I guess I'm more tolerant of his outbursts because of that view. Jesus leads and guides all His children and it is only through HIS GRACE that any are saved.

Peace of the Lord be with the children of God.

I can see where you're coming from, but you gotta remember the only reason any of us eventually breaks out of that phase is because enough people drilled it into our heads that condemning, judging, and refusing to be corrected is not the way to go about things, especially if you want people to listen to you.
 
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It doesn't sound like this message is for you. You all have clearly missed. Anyway, may Jesus bless you.
It annoys me that anytime someone dares to correct you, you always assume it's because they didn't get the message, it's never because you screwed up. I hope one day it gets through to you that advising people requires LISTENING as much as it does speaking, maybe even more.
 
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Who is a virtuous woman among you!! PRAY WOMEN!!! PRAY!!!

Who is a holy woman? Which one of you has not followed vanity? Which of you are faithful and full of compassion? It is time for the prayerful women to return, and make intercessory for the people again. Which of you women have kept to be righteousness, and have held the law of the Lord very dear in the fear of the Lord!!

Which of you women, like women of old are modest and shod with mercy and bowels of compassion? PRAY WOMEN PRAY!! Return to the threshing floor!!

So many women are asking for prayer, BUT WHICH OF YOU ARE PRAYING!! Don't you know that the Lord favors those who ask him, not with selfishness, nor with bitterness, nor with vanity, but those who really really care for lost souls. Don't you know that the Lord your God is mighty and powerful. And that he loves you very dearly that he will answer your prayers? Many women of old have prayed their knees dry to the bone for many of The Church. Which of you is faithful? Who is virtuous?

I love you in Jesus Christ, May he bless and keep you. Amen!!
My first impression when reading this was not a negative one. I am actually glad that you wrote this..
 
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Sweetheart it might help you understand Ramon to know he just became Christain recently and is rejoicing in his new found freedom from sin. I'm hoping he will eventually learn to converse with people instead of just at them.

Do you remember the joy and exburence you first felt when you first learned and accepted Jesus and just wanted to tell the wholewide world about it?

That is the state I see Ramon in and I guess I'm more tolerant of his outbursts because of that view. Jesus leads and guides all His children and it is only through HIS GRACE that any are saved.

Peace of the Lord be with the children of God.

Be that as it may,I'm sorry but it does not excuse total ignorance and disrespect. It does not give him any right whatsoever to judge,condemn,try to tell others how to live,point out all their faults(should they have them) etc. In fact,it actually makes it all the more reason he doesn't have those ''rights''. He hasn't walked through fire as a Christian to the extent as most of us have apparently,because he wouldn't act like this if he had.He wouldn't say women just ask for prayer but don't pray their self,he wouldn't cast judgment,throw stones at people,and so on.

Yes of course I remember how it felt when I first learned and accepted Jesus and wanted to tell the whole world about it,and I assure you I did NOT go around acting the way he does. If he's simply that happy and trying to share with others,well he's totally going about it in the wrong manner. You don't do what he has been doing,you simply tell them where you were,what Jesus did,how it changed you,and that you accepted Him. Anyhow,the best thing anyone can do is pray for the guy,he still clearly has some issues and needs to work them out. The best and only thing to do is pray for one another.
 

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Who is a virtuous woman among you!! PRAY WOMEN!!! PRAY!!!

Who is a holy woman? Which one of you has not followed vanity? Which of you are faithful and full of compassion? It is time for the prayerful women to return, and make intercessory for the people again. Which of you women have kept to be righteousness, and have held the law of the Lord very dear in the fear of the Lord!!

Which of you women, like women of old are modest and shod with mercy and bowels of compassion? PRAY WOMEN PRAY!! Return to the threshing floor!!

So many women are asking for prayer, BUT WHICH OF YOU ARE PRAYING!! Don't you know that the Lord favors those who ask him, not with selfishness, nor with bitterness, nor with vanity, but those who really really care for lost souls. Don't you know that the Lord your God is mighty and powerful. And that he loves you very dearly that he will answer your prayers? Many women of old have prayed their knees dry to the bone for many of The Church. Which of you is faithful? Who is virtuous?

I love you in Jesus Christ, May he bless and keep you. Amen!!
are you a holy man, Ramon?
or are you in need of intercessory prayer?
 
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Sweetheart it might help you understand Ramon to know he just became Christain recently and is rejoicing in his new found freedom from sin. I'm hoping he will eventually learn to converse with people instead of just at them.

Do you remember the joy and exburence you first felt when you first learned and accepted Jesus and just wanted to tell the wholewide world about it?

That is the state I see Ramon in and I guess I'm more tolerant of his outbursts because of that view. Jesus leads and guides all His children and it is only through HIS GRACE that any are saved.

Peace of the Lord be with the children of God.
Spoken like a true Christian! God bless you abundantly for your understanding. We can all learn from this post.
 
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Sweetheart1987

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ha ha ha just stick around a while and you get tired of seeing all the bashing post this dude post. I can tolerate a LOT but not when someone acts in a foolish manner. Totally disrespects others,acts like they're totally perfect and holy,etc when they aren't cause none of us are. We won't be until we're not in the flesh and this walk of life anymore. Until we have a glorified body like Christ. Just cause people don't tolerate rudeness,wrongful acts,bashing, judging ,condemning others,etc when it's NOT any of ours place doesn't mean they aren't a true Christian. This is by far not the first time there has been a ''butting of heads'' here with him,nor will it be the last I'm sure. So many people are sick of this stuff and have said they're probably leaving the site because of this one person. How can EVERYONE else be wrong,and this one person right? it's not possible. I understood for a while,and I was tolerant and patient with the guy,but then when he just keeps on and on,and on it gets old. Not to mention,he tends to single me out of all the others that post things,and then to top it all off...he totally misses the point of what's said,and he doesn't even acknowledge things you say. Because A:he has no idea what he's talking about,and B:he gets scared and avoids talking about things when he knows he's wrong. Example:I addressed the issue of how men aren't angels...the homosexual pastors and preachers,sexually abusing KIDS IN the church,cheating on their wife,all sorts of scandals going on there. Okay first of all homosexuality is a sin,well the acts done is rather...and secondly,sexually abusing anyone,let alone children how can you just let that go oh my word,that's so horrible and sickening. I guess it's possible that it hit a nerve cause it may be happening in his own church,or may have happened to him before,or he just has no defense one. At any rate,I'm not going to defend him cause he's wrong in how he goes about things. Trying to bash people,beat them in the head with a Bible,force your beliefs and things on them,will NOT help at all,it will only turn them AWAY from God,His word,church,and anything and everything that has to do with Him. Including Christians,or so called ones,professing ones. You gotta see the point here. We can't go around sugar coating things,watering them down,feeling sorry for someone and babying them because they're a new Christian....now listen and read this carefully...we can't do that when they're trying to supposedly ''help others'' to turn from their own sins,or wrong doings. Cause hello,wake up! He is WRONG as the day is long,in his approach. Rather than trying to ''correct'' others,he needs to correct his own ways,and allow the Lord to correct him. So peace,cause obviously many on here just want to be all ''well if you aren't sugar coating things,and being extra nice,and blah blah blah,then you aren't a true Christian''. Junk like this is VERY tempting to turn even the strongest Christian away from things,because they see how wrong it is. *sigh* anyhow,it's none sense anyhow so why bother on here anymore.
 
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Well.... I do have to agree that Ramon seems to have adopted the approach that "if you throw enough of it at the wall, some of it is bound to stick". But I still believe that, as Christians, we are called to a higher position. In Luke 6, verses 36 and 37, Jesus said "Be merciful, just as your Father is merciful. Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven."

Remember, when you see his name on a thread, you are not obligated to open it. :)

 
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Sweetheart it might help you understand Ramon to know he just became Christain recently and is rejoicing in his new found freedom from sin. I'm hoping he will eventually learn to converse with people instead of just at them.

Do you remember the joy and exburence you first felt when you first learned and accepted Jesus and just wanted to tell the wholewide world about it?

That is the state I see Ramon in and I guess I'm more tolerant of his outbursts because of that view. Jesus leads and guides all His children and it is only through HIS GRACE that any are saved.

Peace of the Lord be with the children of God.
The issue with this is, that we should always rejoice in that freedom from sin which is Jesus Christ, but is this to say I do not slip? NO! Regardless of how much time a person has had, it makes me no less than them, and the gospel of Jesus should be no less rejuvenating. In fact so many people are used to idleness they have no zeal for the Lord, WHATSOEVER!

But the problem with these responses is that this post has nothing to do with condemnation. But a call to my fellow sisters in Christ to pray. So those answers I gave would have been the responses to the person who even read this post, without some preconceived mischief, so it is obvious it was not for these responders. May Jesus bless you and keep you.
 
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are you a holy man, Ramon?
or are you in need of intercessory prayer?
I would very much accept your prayers my friend. Indeed I hope the Lord sees me as a holy man. May Jesus bless you.
 
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Ramon

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My first impression when reading this was not a negative one. I am actually glad that you wrote this..
May Jesus bless you my friend. This message was for you.
 
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Ramon seriously stop all your doing is digging yourself a hole and causeing distress and besides why are you worried about them i dont think there your biggest problem. infact i think im your bigget problem i mean look at me im an unbeliver who plays and is learning to make video games, i smoke, drink do weed now and again, i have sex in one night stands and i have a "sex buddy" (a friend who you have sex with), i belive its ok to be gay and to have freedom of choice (chosing to have an abortion etc) and im here on CC surely im a big threat at influence others just by merly being here and do the work of the devil so why dont you concentrate everything on me and leave everything else on this site alone
My friend, you are no threat to me. God poses the greater threat. And God will judge us all for what we do. He will answer us according to what we said and did in this earth, and whether we obeyed his Son Jesus Christ May Jesus bless you.
 
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Sweetheart1987

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Well.... I do have to agree that Ramon seems to have adopted the approach that "if you throw enough of it at the wall, some of it is bound to stick". But I still believe that, as Christians, we are called to a higher position. In Luke 6, verses 36 and 37, Jesus said "Be merciful, just as your Father is merciful. Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven."

Remember, when you see his name on a thread, you are not obligated to open it. :)
That's my point,he's going against scripture...as far as the last statement,usually I don't see who post a thread. The title itself catches the eye,most times I just don't say anything,and if I do,it's after someone else has posted. Besides,someone needs to and has to take a stand against the wrong doings. Just saying
 
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That's my point,he's going against scripture...as far as the last statement,usually I don't see who post a thread. The title itself catches the eye,most times I just don't say anything,and if I do,it's after someone else has posted. Besides,someone needs to and has to take a stand against the wrong doings. Just saying
I agree with you. And while Ramon occasionally posts things that in my opinion are not offensive and actually have a good message, for every 1 of those, there's at least 50 that are either completely off the wall or he'll have the right idea paired with the wrong message and there's absolutely no way you can get through to him that that's the case. I think he genuinely wants to reach out and make a difference to the users on this site, I have no doubt of that. But people trying to give a message and inspire others should be able to accept it when they've made a mistake and show a little more humbleness than I've seen Ramon show. His attitude in most of his posts comes across as very, "I'm holier than you," and it's like he forgets that he's human too. And it bothers me that if you disagree with him or attempt to correct him he immediately assumes you didn't get the message because you're deceived or you just didn't get it, or whatever, and it's never that he made a mistake. People who can't see their own errors, if history has taught us anything, are people to worry about. I think if he changed his attitude he would be a great leader and even more inspirational, but until he shows that he is humble, there's not going to be a lot of people who will care or even listen to what he has to say.
 
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I agree with you. And while Ramon occasionally posts things that in my opinion are not offensive and actually have a good message, for every 1 of those, there's at least 50 that are either completely off the wall or he'll have the right idea paired with the wrong message and there's absolutely no way you can get through to him that that's the case. I think he genuinely wants to reach out and make a difference to the users on this site, I have no doubt of that. But people trying to give a message and inspire others should be able to accept it when they've made a mistake and show a little more humbleness than I've seen Ramon show. His attitude in most of his posts comes across as very, "I'm holier than you," and it's like he forgets that he's human too. And it bothers me that if you disagree with him or attempt to correct him he immediately assumes you didn't get the message because you're deceived or you just didn't get it, or whatever, and it's never that he made a mistake. People who can't see their own errors, if history has taught us anything, are people to worry about. I think if he changed his attitude he would be a great leader and even more inspirational, but until he shows that he is humble, there's not going to be a lot of people who will care or even listen to what he has to say.
What people want is a pretty message about sin, righteousness and judgment. They want falsehood, lies of peace. And as it stands there is hardly any peace between man and God, because not many people obey Jesus. Some presume they do follow but do not. Don't you judge me then? Yet I judge no one, but a warning that the Lord will indeed judge men in righteousness with justice, concerning sin. And we MUST be righteous.

There has been enough idleness in the body. And the Lord is coming soon and quick. So anyone who will hear this needs to repent of sin and follow Jesus.
 
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CoreyRyan

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i dare you, double dog dare you to read Ephesians 2. Seriously read Ephesians 2, the whole chapter. Study it very good stuff.

Ephesians 2:15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;
 
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Ramon

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i dare you, double dog dare you to read Ephesians 2. Seriously read Ephesians 2, the whole chapter. Study it very good stuff.

Ephesians 2:15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;
Very beautiful. Thank you my friend for recommending that. It is exactly true. Indeed. VERY VERY GOOD!! Thank you. May Jesus bless you.
 
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juliet84

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That's my point,he's going against scripture...as far as the last statement,usually I don't see who post a thread. The title itself catches the eye,most times I just don't say anything,and if I do,it's after someone else has posted. Besides,someone needs to and has to take a stand against the wrong doings. Just saying
which part of his original post is judging?
 
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Sweetheart it might help you understand Ramon to know he just became Christain recently and is rejoicing in his new found freedom from sin. I'm hoping he will eventually learn to converse with people instead of just at them.

Do you remember the joy and exburence you first felt when you first learned and accepted Jesus and just wanted to tell the wholewide world about it?

That is the state I see Ramon in and I guess I'm more tolerant of his outbursts because of that view. Jesus leads and guides all His children and it is only through HIS GRACE that any are saved.

Peace of the Lord be with the children of God.
That may be true, but lets face it, he's getting a bit carried away here. He's trying to sound like a preacher with an urgent message when he's really just babbling things that are not scriptural or edifiying. They are just rants about what he thinks everyone else is lacking in their faith. Its kind of annoying.

Its like someone coming up to you in a parking lot saying "YOU ARE GOING TO HELL, SINNER!!" Not exactly the way Jesus would speak now is it?

"The way of a fool seems right to him, but a wise man listens to advice"
- Proverbs 12:15 NIV


Have a nice day :)
 
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juliet84

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If I duplicate his original post, and post it in the ladies forum, you would have a different view on it, wouldnt you?