Not By Works

[Duskey]

The memory of the wicked shall be forgotten <-bible

Then I say to them:
Adios Muchachos and Muchachas. They can’t say they were not warned over and over again.

 

[Duskey]

It is? I guess lack of sleep can be a good thing.

Your lack of sleep or mine? 😁

 

[dcontroversal]

So true.
Thank you... I was trying to put my finger on this ... you have nailed it exactly!

The turnip wagon done turned over....!!!!!!

 

[Duskey]

I pray you soften their hearts Lord...in Jesus Name....Amen.

I know my heart needs to be softened so I thank you for your prayers. In return I pray your eyes are opened to the truth regarding false teachers and the fact that we’re trying to help you.

 

[jackrosie]

Hi @DorothyMae .....did you say that Jesus did not take all of mankind’s sin on the cross?

Did you say he didn’t die for you?

He did for me and I still weep for giving up his life...for a revolting sinner that I was .
No one would lay their life on the line as he did.
That is why only he is worthy of Praise and Worship.

 

[dcontroversal]

I know my heart needs to be softened so I thank you for your prayers. In return I pray your eyes are opened to the truth regarding false teachers and the fact that we’re trying to help you.

I have a soft heart when it needs to be soft....dealing with false teachers and those that coddle them, embrace them and by default help them promote their heresies.....not happening!

 

[Duskey]

I have a soft heart when it needs to be soft....dealing with false teachers and those that coddle them, embrace them and by default help them promote their heresies.....not happening!

I totally agree. I’ll never lay down to false teachers. I’m trying to let JR see that our intentions for her are heartfelt.

 

[EleventhHour]

Hi @DorothyMae .....did you say that Jesus did not take all of mankind’s sin on the cross?

Did you say he didn’t die for you?

He did for me and I still weep for giving up his life...for a revolting sinner that I was .
No one would lay their life on the line as he did.
That is why only he is worthy of Praise and Worship.

Right here you have demonstrated why Jesus warned about false teachers.

 

[EleventhHour]

I have a soft heart when it needs to be soft....dealing with false teachers and those that coddle them, embrace them and by default help them promote their heresies.....not happening!

Amen... we have seen the disastrous result of coddling, promoting in churches.

Talk about bad fruit...

 

[Guojing]

We do not support dogma that denigrates/denies the cross.

Where is your stance?

Your friend @DorothyMae asserts Jesus did not atone for all sins.

Do you think it is okay to deny Jesus to support a friend in their false teaching?

Well, you also agree that the sin of taking the mark of the beast, during the Tribulation, was not atoned by Jesus correct?

 

[dcontroversal]

Amen... we have seen the disastrous result of coddling, promoting in churches.

Talk about bad fruit...

Not one time did Jesus embrace false teaching and or coddle false teachers...!! He told them the truth, and sometimes very harshly and fully expected them to embrace it and disassociate themselves from that which was false!

 

[EleventhHour]

Fruit is the character of the speaker, not what followers do or are. That was the problem of the pharisees. Good teaching but bad character. Jesus called them snakes, not liars.

He never judged them by their followers.

Wrong ... fruit is a product of the tree in the example Jesus is giving.
An unhealthy tree cannot produce good fruit....false teachers produce bad fruit.

Those who spread false teaching always yield bad fruit... it is not from God... it has no power to save.... Mormons classic example.

Those who teach the Gospel will yield good fruit ...more believers in Christ.

The first category of the fruits of the false prophet is their doctrine, next the effect the doctrine has on others and thirdly their character.

Your oversimplification tells me a lot.

 

[DorothyMae]

You don't even know what fruit is.....You, like her, think because we rake her and a few others over the coals because of the false dogma she embraces and peddles that WE bear no fruit or are not saved.....it is sickening to be frank....and you are coddling one of the most deceptive people I have seen on this site, one that skews the truth, skews what we say, accuses us of the same crap that the lost men of Paul's day accused him of...and you may have me on ignore, but every one else will see it....and many are discussing it behind the scenes!

To say “you don’t even know that fruit is” is a personal attack. (Wasn’t said to me, btw.)

 

[DorothyMae]

Then I say to them:
Adios Muchachos and Muchachas. They can’t say they were not warned over and over again.

Auf wiedersehen!

 

[jackrosie]

To say “you don’t even know that fruit is” is a personal attack. (Wasn’t said to me, btw.)

Amen!....they teach and call me a hypocrite....yet blinded by their own hypocrisy..

Pray for them in Jesus Name..Amen.

 

[DorothyMae]

Hi @DorothyMae .....did you say that Jesus did not take all of mankind’s sin on the cross?

No I didn’t. I did say we need to repent to be forgiven. Our required part doesn’t affect his part. He has done all.

Did you say he didn’t die for you?

Again no I didn’t. I said the opposite.

He did for me and I still weep for giving up his life...for a revolting sinner that I was .
No one would lay their life on the line as he did.
That is why only he is worthy of Praise and Worship.

Amen!!!!

 

[jackrosie]

No I didn’t. I did say we need to repent to be forgiven. Our required part doesn’t affect his part. He has done all.
Again no I didn’t. I said the opposite.
Amen!!!!

Thank you..you were falsely accused on here of saying words to that affect.
Thank you for clarifying @DorothyMae .
Again some false accusations made against you.

 

[DorothyMae]

There is no evil in you @DorothyMae ...God Loves You.

I’m deeply touched by your words, dear Jackrosie. Thank you.

 

[DorothyMae]

It would seem that way.....I have also noticed how they manipulate and twist,then try to make you feel like you are coddling someone and all that goes on behind the scenes....
No I shouldn’t judge them....but they shouldn’t judge us either.....as for the fruit of the spirit I agree with you 100% in that area @DorothyMae ..

By the way you say ignore button is dangerous...are you kidding...”I Love it”,!!

Pray that the Lord soften their hearts.....

Two in particular I have noticed,you have to agree 100% with what they peddle....or watch out.....that is not of God.....I have about 4 on ignore,those are the ones.....who repeat the same ...tunnel vision I call it....blinded.

I think I have two on ignore....maybe 3. I just meant you don’t see what they posted others answer. Not dangerous.

You know, my desire is that others who are considering what to believe read the chosen words and make a call as to what they will believe. I suspected if the false theology was challenged it would respond with teeth. That is the lesson of history. Lies try to kill truth. Was true in Jesus’ day. Truth tolerates lies rather than commit sin.

 

[DorothyMae]

Thank you..you were falsely accused on here of saying words to that affect.
Thank you for clarifying @DorothyMae .
Again some false accusations made against you.

If they don’t see what the Bible writers intend to communicate, they won’t see other truth when presented.

I’ll give you a clue as to the reason in the human heart for false doctrine. It always appeals to something wrong in man. OSAS assures heaven without the need to even continue believing. It appeals to laziness. Jesus is said to do it all for you. The two way relationship is made into one way.

Those who reject that know that they must take care which is not works but the same as a man cares for his marriage. That does not involve works but nevertheless effort is expanded and selfishness reigned in.