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Might be good to verify the story before spreading a rumor. Can't really trust any news source these days.
 

Desdichado

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To a degree. Thankfully, such finesse is called statecraft and there is a wide body of history, philosophy, and literature our leaders could draw from to guide them.

There is no perfect guide to these things, but brute force is rarely the best way.

Finesse is in the eye of the finesser............
 

iamsoandso

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Might be good to verify the story before spreading a rumor. Can't really trust any news source these days.

lol, It's not a new thing at all. I remember my parents talking about the news telling lies in the old days about the events taking place and my grandparents agreeing and telling the things the news lied about the mid to late 1800's.
 

p_rehbein

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To a degree. Thankfully, such finesse is called statecraft and there is a wide body of history, philosophy, and literature our leaders could draw from to guide them.

There is no perfect guide to these things, but brute force is rarely the best way.
Dunno............. God seemed to prefer brute force when folks got too rebellious .............. Sodom and Goneforevera are clear examples
 

Roughsoul1991

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Dunno............. God seemed to prefer brute force when folks got too rebellious .............. Sodom and Goneforevera are clear examples
Brute force has its advantages but it is all about intelligence and planning. Sometimes a quick operation like the infiltration of Osama bin Laden is the best method. But that took months of planning and spying. In my opinion, they need to be putting undercover agents in, block off supply, wiretap phones in order to gain intelligence, find the leaders, begin media control as promoting the true narrative, study the map of the area and locate strategically weak areas, sniper positions, armories, barracks, food supply, etc. Give them a ultimatum that whoever is left inside at the end of a month will be seen as a threat. Choke off supply delivery, have an undercover agent set fire to supplies, continue to train and contain intelligence with a trained professional to open dialogue with the group. Then as time comes begin to show a increase in power. Tanks, helicopters, troops, snipers, etc. Hoping they will back down. If not then after a day or two begin the operation at 2:00 a.m. Night vision optics and masks. Thermal optics including drone surveillance. Make a example of the situation that any terrorism will not be tolerated.

Of course this kind of action would be viewed as tyrannical.
 
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lol, It's not a new thing at all. I remember my parents talking about the news telling lies in the old days about the events taking place and my grandparents agreeing and telling the things the news lied about the mid to late 1800's.
You are as solid gold
 

iamsoandso

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iamsoandso

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will worship!!!
this is when people worship 'men's will and doctrine' -
another definition is;
forced demon worship - the similarities in embryo are very similar to
hitler's Nazi Germany...
as it is written;
REV. 12:9.
And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan,
which deceives (((the whole world))): he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
 

iamsoandso

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Think about it they passed several stimulus package's 2.2 trillion, 3 trillion ect. over 75,000 a year receives less than 1,200.00.

In the news the businesses all screamed that they were going bankrupt and many have filed for bankruptcy and closed the others are playing catch up on their bills You see it in the News every day so why if they got stimulus money?

There are 328.2 million people in the US counting even the children but not everyone qualified for the stimulus so probably half got a check, Now 328.2 million times 1.200,00 is three hundred ninety three billion,eight hundred and forty million dollars who got the rest of the trillions of dollars?

Did the ones who received unemployment during covid-19 have it deducted payday after payday out of their checks? Why did they need to pass additional stimulus if they deduct it out of the checks of both those who were laid off and those who were essential workers twelve months a year,year after year?
 

iamsoandso

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In post #67 oldman said I was as solid gold. Now we all have heard of fort Knox when we shifted to fiat money what happened to all that gold? who got it did you?
 
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In post #67 oldman said I was as solid gold. Now we all have heard of fort Knox when we shifted to fiat money what happened to all that gold? who got it did you?
Let this go sport - you missed my point. And no I won't explain further.
 

iamsoandso

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Let this go sport - you missed my point. And no I won't explain further.

No need to explain my mama always said if someones just watching,give them a good show or if there straining to hear give them something the to listen to...
 

iamsoandso

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https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Thessalonians+2:8&version=KJV Simply stated in Scripture the wickedness is destroyed and consumed with the brightness of his coming so none of us will destroy or consume it because if we could it would not exist when the Lord does come and the Scripture is then untrue. We would be walking backward to even think that we have any contol over this wickedness other than that we call it wickedness to it's face and reveal it.
 
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kaylagrl

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CHAZ is now CHOP and one of the BLM leaders even begged for the police to come inside the zone when a person was murdered there. Now there are reports of rape. Looks like they're living in a virtual paradise.