Not By Works
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No wonder you support her and no thanks....
a. I was saved without every hearing the gospel <--false
b. I KNOW GOD <<-FALSE
C. SALVATION can be lost because faith can be lost <<- false
If you think anything can be gleaned from her on a spiritual level.....I suggest the following words/phrases and a English dictionary you actually understand....
Deceived
Bamboozled
Tricked
Snookered
Wool over your eyes
Hoodwinked
Duped
Deluded
Mislead
and all other words of like caliber and order!!
a. I was saved without every hearing the gospel <--false
b. I KNOW GOD <<-FALSE
C. SALVATION can be lost because faith can be lost <<- false
If you think anything can be gleaned from her on a spiritual level.....I suggest the following words/phrases and a English dictionary you actually understand....
Deceived
Bamboozled
Tricked
Snookered
Wool over your eyes
Hoodwinked
Duped
Deluded
Mislead
and all other words of like caliber and order!!
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Listen......a heretic after the 1st and 2nd admonition REJECT......everyone on here for DAYS ON END have been engaging her....SHE IS NOT OPEN TO TRUTH and has stated OPENLY no less than half a dozen times what her goal is and why we are not cutting her any slack.....wake up....she accused YOU like three or four posts in a ROW just yesterday and you know THIS IS TRUE!
The word heretick comes from two GREEK worda and MEANS TO BE OPINIONATED AGAINST THE WORD OF GOD in it's full MEANING......
Anyway.....whatever!
The word heretick comes from two GREEK worda and MEANS TO BE OPINIONATED AGAINST THE WORD OF GOD in it's full MEANING......
Anyway.....whatever!
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My bible says....
For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher? ... So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
NO ONE IS SAVED without the WORD OF GOD in the form of the gospel either being read, proclaimed or preached.
For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher? ... So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
NO ONE IS SAVED without the WORD OF GOD in the form of the gospel either being read, proclaimed or preached.
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This is my opinion on what might be happening here.
This thread is about not by works. The scripture that comes to me is then this..
Tit 3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
Tit 3:6 Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour;
Tit 3:7 That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.
and here is Decons part....
Tit 3:8 This is a faithful saying, and these things I will that thou affirm constantly, that they which have believed in God might be careful to maintain good works. These things are good and profitable unto men.
Tit 3:9 But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain.
Tit 3:10 A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject;
Tit 3:11 Knowing that he that is such is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned of himself.
Dealing with the kingdom of heaven....entrance into heaven. By faith through grace...grace in this instance being favor. No strings attached but His mercy and grace alone.
But then we have the kingdom of God within where Jesus is Lord of our life. And He begins His process of creating us into His same image. This too is salvation but is of our soul becoming who we are in our Spirit.
In not identifying salvation as a whole and in not realizing the two means of kingdoms and the scriptures that relate....we get confused. We start attacking each other with our daggers. If you study, the logos word is like a knife, but the rhema word comes from the throne, and is the sword. In His mouth! There too is a difference.
We arent to be pulling each other down. Building each other up is our way. Yet!
If it isn’t about Jesus, and the work of Holy Spirit being promoted with the body of Christ in harmony concerning the work, there’s a great problem.
This thread is not about sanctification and its process unless Decon makes it so. This is about the Cross of Jesus and the blood. His work.
There could be some way of separation of the two here. I don’t know it. I just see what’s happening.
Its the work of the devil to create fear that we have missed heaven. Unless we are secure in our salvation, we cannot fight the enemy.
That’s all I have. But I know this is truth. Except, people aren’t the enemy.
This thread is about not by works. The scripture that comes to me is then this..
Tit 3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
Tit 3:6 Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour;
Tit 3:7 That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.
and here is Decons part....
Tit 3:8 This is a faithful saying, and these things I will that thou affirm constantly, that they which have believed in God might be careful to maintain good works. These things are good and profitable unto men.
Tit 3:9 But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain.
Tit 3:10 A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject;
Tit 3:11 Knowing that he that is such is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned of himself.
Dealing with the kingdom of heaven....entrance into heaven. By faith through grace...grace in this instance being favor. No strings attached but His mercy and grace alone.
But then we have the kingdom of God within where Jesus is Lord of our life. And He begins His process of creating us into His same image. This too is salvation but is of our soul becoming who we are in our Spirit.
In not identifying salvation as a whole and in not realizing the two means of kingdoms and the scriptures that relate....we get confused. We start attacking each other with our daggers. If you study, the logos word is like a knife, but the rhema word comes from the throne, and is the sword. In His mouth! There too is a difference.
We arent to be pulling each other down. Building each other up is our way. Yet!
If it isn’t about Jesus, and the work of Holy Spirit being promoted with the body of Christ in harmony concerning the work, there’s a great problem.
This thread is not about sanctification and its process unless Decon makes it so. This is about the Cross of Jesus and the blood. His work.
There could be some way of separation of the two here. I don’t know it. I just see what’s happening.
Its the work of the devil to create fear that we have missed heaven. Unless we are secure in our salvation, we cannot fight the enemy.
That’s all I have. But I know this is truth. Except, people aren’t the enemy.
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UNTIL a few days ago you had not even got past the milk of the word and grasping eternal security and now a few days LATER YOU KNOW WHO SPEAKS for GOD and who DOESN'T ......
I have heard it all now.......wow.....!!
UNTIL a few days ago you had not even got past the milk of the word and grasping eternal security and now a few days LATER YOU KNOW WHO SPEAKS for GOD and who DOESN'T ......
I have heard it all now.......wow.....!!
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