Not By Works
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Christ was WITHOUT sin, ONLY THE SIN OF THE WHOLE WAY THAT THE FATHER PLACED UPON HIM BY THE LAYING OF HIS HAND UPON HIS VERY OWN SON.......
And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him; (JESUS CHRIST!!!)
Hebrews 5:9 - https://www.biblegateway.com/passage?search=Hebrews 5:9&version=KJV
To OBEY is to BELIEVE IN CHRIST FOR YOUR SALVATION!
None of us can put ANY confidence in our flesh to obey God. It is ONLY by the Holy Spirit that we have strength and God’s power to obey and do great things for God! Amen!
And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him; (JESUS CHRIST!!!)
Hebrews 5:9 - https://www.biblegateway.com/passage?search=Hebrews 5:9&version=KJV
To OBEY is to BELIEVE IN CHRIST FOR YOUR SALVATION!
None of us can put ANY confidence in our flesh to obey God. It is ONLY by the Holy Spirit that we have strength and God’s power to obey and do great things for God! Amen!
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No matter how they slice and dice, salvation that can be lost or forfeit BY DEFAULT = A works based salvation.
IF ONE MUST do something to KEEP IT, MAINTAIN IT regardless of what the "IT" IS....it is nothing more than a self help guru false salvation, not of God and reeks of no trust into the promises and or finished work of Christ on oir behalf!
IF ONE MUST do something to KEEP IT, MAINTAIN IT regardless of what the "IT" IS....it is nothing more than a self help guru false salvation, not of God and reeks of no trust into the promises and or finished work of Christ on oir behalf!
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I have been gentle with you but, you deceive the flock.
There is NO SALVATION outside of Jesus Christ and there are NO WORKS outside of HIM that can keep, maintain or preserve what JESUS CHRIST completed in His Body and Blood on the Cross for ALL who will simply believe in Him as Savior, Lord and King.
There is NO SALVATION outside of Jesus Christ and there are NO WORKS outside of HIM that can keep, maintain or preserve what JESUS CHRIST completed in His Body and Blood on the Cross for ALL who will simply believe in Him as Savior, Lord and King.
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Christ was WITHOUT sin, ONLY THE SIN OF THE WHOLE WAY THAT THE FATHER PLACED UPON HIM BY THE LAYING OF HIS HAND UPON HIS VERY OWN SON.......
And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him; (JESUS CHRIST!!!)
Hebrews 5:9 - https://www.biblegateway.com/passage?search=Hebrews 5:9&version=KJV
To OBEY is to BELIEVE IN CHRIST FOR YOUR SALVATION!
None of us can put ANY confidence in our flesh to obey God. It is ONLY by the Holy Spirit that we have strength and God’s power to obey and do great things for God! Amen!
And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him; (JESUS CHRIST!!!)
Hebrews 5:9 - https://www.biblegateway.com/passage?search=Hebrews 5:9&version=KJV
To OBEY is to BELIEVE IN CHRIST FOR YOUR SALVATION!
None of us can put ANY confidence in our flesh to obey God. It is ONLY by the Holy Spirit that we have strength and God’s power to obey and do great things for God! Amen!
But do you think Christ COULD have chose to sin? Was he capable of sinning?
I am saying that Jesus consistently used nature to teach the spiritual.....growth and maturity are required to bear fruit.....
Except a man ABIDE in the vine Jesus said.....
Not one plant or tree on this planet bears fruit immediately.....they all take growth and maturity....some quicker than others obviously....while we have now been given access to the Spirit by being sealed with the Spirit they are all grown, matured and beough to fruition if you will.
For example...Let Love be PERFECTED in us <-- matured
One thing I think is a disconnect...works are not fruit!
But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
Except a man ABIDE in the vine Jesus said.....
Not one plant or tree on this planet bears fruit immediately.....they all take growth and maturity....some quicker than others obviously....while we have now been given access to the Spirit by being sealed with the Spirit they are all grown, matured and beough to fruition if you will.
For example...Let Love be PERFECTED in us <-- matured
One thing I think is a disconnect...works are not fruit!
But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
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