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Magenta

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I always said that God knew exactly what he was doing when he made the "CHINK" in man's armor hahahaa
Think about it Dave... how could Adam and Eve have been perfect if we are perfected in Christ?They did not eat from the Tree of Life.
 
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EleventhHour

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I know all about that....I ain’t daft.haaaaaaa......God has prepared me for what is to come....x

My strength is in him...Amen!.
Amen, and I am overjoyed.

Sometimes when we come under conviction we fight very hard, then there is that moment when we see.
I prayed you would be strong in the Lord and resist people like @DorothyMae who is daily revealing herself and not for the good.

Yes we can pray for her, but she is not someone we want to encourage.

You will find diverse beliefs here, but I think you chose two good teachers for yourself and that is very important.

At the age of twenty one when I was born again I was blessed to have someone who taught me so much through regular bible study and to this day I still am so thankful for that.

One thing he always stressed was to test the spirits to see they are from God and see if what they teach lines up with scripture.. it is very important.
 
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Think about it Dave... how could Adam and Eve have been perfect if we are perfected in Christ?They did not eat from the Tree of Life.
I never said they were perfect ;) and the word GOOD applied unto creation, including man does not mean good in the sense of how we use the word...it carried the idea of being usable or acceptable for the designed purpose....and it is directed at the over all creation including man....but in the essence of GOOD as we view it...it is not applied.
 
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Think about it Dave... how could Adam and Eve have been perfect if we are perfected in Christ?They did not eat from the Tree of Life.
I also want to add....they had access to every tree in the garden except the tree of the knowledge of good and evil....YES they were banned from it after they fell by deception and sin....we do not know how long they were in the garden before the fall nor can we say with any accuracy that they did or did not eat from the tree of life before the fall. Before the fall they had permission to eat from every tree except one.
 
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You must be blind or dishonest...indeed atleast one to three people do....so....the fact you judged me fasely and then openly called me a liar makes you look foolish and false!
Show this forum a post where anyone has taught the faith of John Calvin. One post. You've made this heavy handed claim, now its time to show proof of this.
 
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EleventhHour

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None of us do this my friend. Why lie about this?
Who is lying ......you would not believe and promote what you do if not for the fact that Calvin published his erroneous ideas.

Then his dogma took a life of its own.
 
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Who is lying ......you would not believe and promote what you do if not for the fact that Calvin published his erroneous ideas.

Then his dogma took a life of its own.
That is not the faith of John Calvin. Your side promotes the teachings of Jacob Arminius, Charles Finney, Robert Sandeman, but that does not mean you teach the faith of Arminius, Finney, or Sandeman. There is only the one faith that all believers contend for.[Jude 3]
 

Magenta

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I also want to add....they had access to every tree in the garden except the tree of the knowledge of good and evil....YES they were banned from it after they fell by deception and sin....we do not know how long they were in the garden before the fall nor can we say with any accuracy that they did or did not eat from the tree of life before the fall. Before the fall they had permission to eat from every tree except one.
Yes, and we are told the reason why they were NOT allowed to eat from the Tree of Life after the fall, because if they did? The Lord God made garments of skin for Adam and his wife and clothed them. And the Lord God said, “The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever.” Because they would live forever if they had. Notice the "take also." They had not yet, nor were they immortal. Satan lied to Eve, in telling her “You will not certainly die,” and she was deceived.
 
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Show this forum a post where anyone has taught the faith of John Calvin. One post. You've made this heavy handed claim, now its time to show proof of this.
Both you and your buddy do.....and the fact you are being dishonest about it speaks volumes to all reading...shame on you!

Is that 6th tenat of Calvinism? Not admit you peddle the 5 tenats of Calvinism....3 of the 5 being false to boot!
 
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EleventhHour

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Show this forum a post where anyone has taught the faith of John Calvin. One post. You've made this heavy handed claim, now its time to show proof of this.
The "faith"of John Calvin is TULIP

That is what he believed ...that was his faith.

Faith also means the body of doctrine.

Like if I am Catholic and I teach my faith I am teaching Catholicism.

So it is not a lie.
 
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That is not the faith of John Calvin. Your side promotes the teachings of Jacob Arminius, Charles Finney, Robert Sandeman, but that does not mean you teach the faith of Arminius, Finney, or Sandeman. There is only the one faith that all believers contend for.[Jude 3]
Yawn....parroting the teaching of your leader we see....!
 
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The "faith"of John Calvin is TULIP

That is what he believed ...that was his faith.

Faith also means the body of doctrine.

Like if I am Catholic and I teach my faith I am teaching Catholicism.

So it is not a lie.
Exactly....he has already messaged his cohort probably...he will be along shortly to tell us all how he....

a. Has the truth
b. Does not peddle Calvinism even though he does
c. Boast of his grand knowledge and then say we need more bible reading.

Yawnnnnn!
 
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Both you and your buddy do.....and the fact you are being dishonest about it speaks volumes to all reading...shame on you!

Is that 6th tenat of Calvinism? Not admit you peddle the 5 tenats of Calvinism....3 of the 5 being false to boot!
Post the post where we teach the faith of John Calvin. Show the whole forum one post where we teach the faith of John Calvin.

We are saved by the imputed righteousness of the Christ, and this is by faith in Christ, not John Calvin.
 
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Exactly....he has already messaged his cohort probably...he will be along shortly to tell us all how he....

a. Has the truth
b. Does not peddle Calvinism even though he does
c. Boast of his grand knowledge and then say we need more bible reading.

Yawnnnnn!
Don't worry about finding that post that doesn't exist. You are on ignore for good.
 
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Exactly....he has already messaged his cohort probably...he will be along shortly to tell us all how he....

a. Has the truth
b. Does not peddle Calvinism even though he does
c. Boast of his grand knowledge and then say we need more bible reading.

Yawnnnnn!
That is typically what happens... and of course they peddle Calvinism ... and the faith that Calvin had.
 
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Show this forum a post where anyone has taught the faith of John Calvin. One post. You've made this heavy handed claim, now its time to show proof of this.
Whoops 5 minute rule

Both you and your buddy do.....and the fact you are being dishonest about it speaks volumes to all reading...shame on you!

Is that 6th tenant of Calvinism? Not admit you peddle the 5 tenants of Calvinism....3 of the 5 being false to boot!
 
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Post the post where we teach the faith of John Calvin. Show the whole forum one post where we teach the faith of John Calvin.

We are saved by the imputed righteousness of the Christ, and this is by faith in Christ, not John Calvin.
Yes or No....Do you hold to TULIP

A simple YES or NO.....
 
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That is typically what happens... and of course they peddle Calvinism ... and the faith that Calvin had.
Must be secretly ashamed of the fact that they hold to the TULIP doctrine....Kind of like JWs and MORMONS refuse to admit openly what they are.........I mean, if you really believe what you peddle why try to hid it or not be honest in admitting it....