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...you're still a sinner and you still sin.....and quickly proving your dishonesty not only in this site, but also biblically!!
I was a sinner, but I became a saint when I got born again.

I’m proving by the scripture that OSAS is not true. If there’s dishonesty, it’s amongst those who deny the truth of the scripture.
 

cv5

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I was a sinner, but I became a saint when I got born again.

I’m proving by the scripture that OSAS is not true. If there’s dishonesty, it’s amongst those who deny the truth of the scripture.
State your position regarding the security of the believer in concise form. All I hear is innuendo, aspersions, insinuation.

If you want a proper debate, begin there.
 

cv5

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I have believed the scripture.

There’s nothing false about scripture truth.
What is false is your interpretation of Rom 11, Heb 6 and 10, and pretty much everything else. Seriously your exegesis is a train wreck.
 
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I have posted scripture....you choose to ignore it........you twist and turn everything.....scroll back and the scripture is there for all to see.
No, you refuse to post scripture. If you loved the Word, you’d be glad to do so even repeating it.

JR, your revelation does not match scripture. This is why you doubt it and need OSAS to make you feel secure. I haven’t doubted my salvation a minute of my life since meeting Jesus. My salvation is rooted in what the Bible says. My experience is judged by the Bible.

God could not have possibly shown you that only “born agains see heaven” because the Bible never says that. It doesn’t promises OSAS either. But your faith is rooted in your experience.

I recommend reading the Bible.
 
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No, you refuse to post scripture. If you loved the Word, you’d be glad to do so even repeating it.

JR, your revelation does not match scripture. This is why you doubt it and need OSAS to make you feel secure. I haven’t doubted my salvation a minute of my life since meeting Jesus. My salvation is rooted in what the Bible says. My experience is judged by the Bible.

God could not have possibly shown you that only “born agains see heaven” because the Bible never says that. It doesn’t promises OSAS either. But your faith is rooted in your experience.

I recommend reading the Bible.


I have posted scripture to you many times....you ignore it.

I am 100% saved....regardless of what you say about my testimony on how I was saved.

IMHO.......you believe in your own strength that you are saved......you don’t even speak in the Spirit.....you speak like you are still in the world.

My faith is rooted in the word of God.....only born again see the Kingdom of God....

Your belief is based on what “you” believe......you twist scripture to suit you........

Everyone on this thread I understand..except you.....why is that?
 
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Yes.....called salvation and being able to spiritually discern truth because the natural man cannot receive, know or spiritually discern truth!



Take note of these words DorothyMae......

“Spiritually discern truth”..........because the natural man cannot receive.
 

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That’s why I trust in the Lord with all my heart and lean on his words.

You will make no mistake doing that.
I believe the ending of the verse you are quoting is “and lean not on your own understanding. With all your ways acknowledge Him, and He will give you the desires of your heart.

Never add your own thought to His word when you are quoting it.
 
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No, you refuse to post scripture. If you loved the Word, you’d be glad to do so even repeating it.

JR, your revelation does not match scripture. This is why you doubt it and need OSAS to make you feel secure. I haven’t doubted my salvation a minute of my life since meeting Jesus. My salvation is rooted in what the Bible says. My experience is judged by the Bible.

God could not have possibly shown you that only “born agains see heaven” because the Bible never says that. It doesn’t promises OSAS either. But your faith is rooted in your experience.

I recommend reading the Bible.




Read all of John 3


John 3:5

Jesus answered ,I tell you the truth,no one can enter the Kingdom of God unless he is born of water and the Spirit.
Flesh gives birth to flesh.
But the Spirit gives birth to Spirit.

You said my faith is based on experience........of course I had an experience....there it is scriptural.......now deny it?

Do you understand that scripture?......explain it to me?
 
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DorothyMae..I am born of the Spirit.......A new birth.

Explain what that means to you?

It is scriptural.....now deny that it is?.........

My experience as you call is checked with scripture and there it is.....God’s word......now try and explain it away?
 
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No, you refuse to post scripture. If you loved the Word, you’d be glad to do so even repeating it.

JR, your revelation does not match scripture. This is why you doubt it and need OSAS to make you feel secure. I haven’t doubted my salvation a minute of my life since meeting Jesus. My salvation is rooted in what the Bible says. My experience is judged by the Bible.

God could not have possibly shown you that only “born agains see heaven” because the Bible never says that. It doesn’t promises OSAS either. But your faith is rooted in your experience.

I recommend reading the Bible.




Scripture on you “MEETING “ Jesus?

Where did you meet JESUS?
 

Blue_Of_Lake

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How about you stop with the false accusations you just make yourself look more worse, if that is possible, and stick to the topic at hand.

Salvation is secure. OSAS is the Gospel.


Oasis? ☺ 🏖🏝


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I supply much more scripture than you ever do Dot.
You quote scripture that has nothing to do with the discussion. You quite popular “they will love you for reminding them” scripture. You don’t quote, “forgive us as we forgive those who sin against us” or “be who endures to the end will be saved” because either you don’t know it’s there or it won’t make you popular. Second, I weave scripture into my sentences wondering who will disagree because they don’t know the Bible at all, only the positive promises they like. The ones you post.
Plus, when you try to tear down the faith of Gods child, how is this love?
They have faith in the promises men have made them, like you, ignoring what God requires them to do.
You fool yourself thinking you are above us all in some way.
I claim nothing if the kind. You easily malign.
Superior intellect or something. It’s not head knowledge that’s acceptable but childlike faith. I believe what you tell me daddy.
Except you believe what men say, not “daddy” whose warnings you “greek” away.
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Our all sufficiency is in Him.

2Co 9:8 And God is able to make all grace abound toward you; that ye, always having all sufficiency in all things, may abound to every good work:

Will you just accept what is written as truth?[/QUOTE]“He who endures to the end will be saved.” When will you believe Him?
 

Blue_Of_Lake

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You will get your turn with Dottie. For that I am very sure. I will deal with Dottie as I did a long time ago on and now defunct thread. I will deal with her falseness, her word-twisting and whatever else I need to deal with. I do not coddle, pretend, nor extend graciousness to false teaching nor false teachers.

but false according to whom? we are none of us God here.