Partially quoting @eternally-gratefull is not right, but also misleading for those that may join the convo AFTER the fact!
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Yay, end of story!!!!!! Wait, nevermind, he keeps rereading the story over and over. Always has the same ending too, fairy tales, error, false conclusions, ad hominem, but never gets to "The End." 
Did they not resist grace and sin?
Or did God create the forbidden fruit to be more irresistible than Himself?
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My view....men overcomplicate everything.....
Be not removed from the simplicity found in Christ.
It pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.
If men add one word, thought, condition, embellishment to the correct message (gospel) and or take ANYTHING away from it, the message they proclaim is void of power and has no power to save.
Men love darkness and will not come to the light lest their deeds be reproved.
And unless the proverbial "lightbulb" is switched on....the natural man cannot know, spiritually discern and or judge the value of the message.
Be not removed from the simplicity found in Christ.
It pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.
If men add one word, thought, condition, embellishment to the correct message (gospel) and or take ANYTHING away from it, the message they proclaim is void of power and has no power to save.
Men love darkness and will not come to the light lest their deeds be reproved.
And unless the proverbial "lightbulb" is switched on....the natural man cannot know, spiritually discern and or judge the value of the message.
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You're the only person, as far as I can tell, who is talking about Calvin, and almost incessantly. You've been doing this for several days, I'm pretty certain I know why.
I've provided a biblical case after the above post, and she was spot on, is growing in her faith, and in grace and knowledge; 2 Peter 3:18.
You didn't use Scripture in context or in its proper meaning in your above. The verse you faintly allude to (1 Timothy 2:4) is speaking of men of all distinctions, not every single man who has ever lived. That, and it isn't being used by you in line with 2 Timothy 2:15. If God desired all men to be saved, every single one, then they'd be saved, every single one.
You don't understand the doctrine of irresistible grace which is why you make erroneous conclusions. It doesn't teach what you conclude it to teach.
Then you end with a bit of demeaning language towards my person, some ad hominem which unfortunately is the norm from what I see on here? Not sure why, but you need to leave that out of the discussion.
For the record God is my teacher, is never wrong, and has never failed.
I've provided a biblical case after the above post, and she was spot on, is growing in her faith, and in grace and knowledge; 2 Peter 3:18.
You didn't use Scripture in context or in its proper meaning in your above. The verse you faintly allude to (1 Timothy 2:4) is speaking of men of all distinctions, not every single man who has ever lived. That, and it isn't being used by you in line with 2 Timothy 2:15. If God desired all men to be saved, every single one, then they'd be saved, every single one.
You don't understand the doctrine of irresistible grace which is why you make erroneous conclusions. It doesn't teach what you conclude it to teach.
Then you end with a bit of demeaning language towards my person, some ad hominem which unfortunately is the norm from what I see on here? Not sure why, but you need to leave that out of the discussion.
For the record God is my teacher, is never wrong, and has never failed.
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I want to show something about a scripture that bluelake posted. For some reason the whole post doesn’t come up for me.
Mat 5:48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.
This is why we should study with the KJV and not use it for just reading.
Be:
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ἔσομαι
esomai
es'-om-ahee
Future tense of G1510; will be: - shall (should) be (have), (shall) come (to pass), X may have, X fall, what would follow, X live long, X sojourn.
Total KJV occurrences: 188
Jesus is telling them that they (we) shall be perfect even as our Father is perfect.
Sure makes a difference doesn’t it?
Mat 5:48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.
This is why we should study with the KJV and not use it for just reading.
Be:
G2071
ἔσομαι
esomai
es'-om-ahee
Future tense of G1510; will be: - shall (should) be (have), (shall) come (to pass), X may have, X fall, what would follow, X live long, X sojourn.
Total KJV occurrences: 188
Jesus is telling them that they (we) shall be perfect even as our Father is perfect.
Sure makes a difference doesn’t it?
Nothing you said supports your calvinistic position.....
If what you say about grace being irresistible is true.....which is the same thing that your teacher embraced, and God would have all men be saved....ALL would be saved....try being honest for once....what you hold to is incorrect!
Many are called, few chosen <--I see many that opposed your irresistible grace!
If what you say about grace being irresistible is true.....which is the same thing that your teacher embraced, and God would have all men be saved....ALL would be saved....try being honest for once....what you hold to is incorrect!
Many are called, few chosen <--I see many that opposed your irresistible grace!
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