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As to why companies should not be able to fire you over free speech especially on your own time. You can be a Nazi but our country protects the right to conscience as long as you don't break the laws of the land. Job hiring should be at most maybe a background check. But we still have the first amendment. It just needs Constitutional judges and constitutionally understand public to defend it and enforce it.


I agree!
Some of what is taking place is ridiculous, some justified, some just plain retarded.
 
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Thanks for the clarification. Why is it interesting? Look at each case to determine guilt or innocence. 90% of cases deserve the outcome under the law.

Like speeding tickets. When a car blasts past a cop, generally the cop does not know who is driving the car (especially at night). So I absolutely believe if in some States Black drivers get more speeding tickets, it is because in that State Black drivers speed more often than other ethnic groups.

But sadly, those common denominators are not across the board. And in some cases, it is a racist outcome.
 

Dude653

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I agree!
Some of what is taking place is ridiculous, some justified, some just plain retarded.
This has absolutely squat to do with your first amendment rights. An employer reserve the right to fire any employee who engages in an activity that makes his company look bad
 
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This has absolutely squat to do with your first amendment rights. An employer reserve the right to fire any employee who engages in an activity that makes his company look bad


This is true. And there are times when behind closed doors you find out the owners are worse than some patsy who got caught up in foolery. I firmly believe the lesser of 2 evils generally get caught.
 

Dude653

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A company has to protect their bottom line and protect themselves from being boycotted
if you work for me and I see you making racist or otherwise hateful comments on social media, best believe you won't have a job and next day
 
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Please help me understand....why whenever a Black organization rises to fight for equality, it is deemed as a "terrorist", "radical" or "militant" group when there are groups such as the Klu Klux Klan and other White supremacy groups (and their descendants) who can openly kill and spread hatred towards another group of people without penalties.

Because BLM is not about equality. It's not even about black lives mattering. They are radical and they are militant. That's simply the facts. Are you saying there are no white supremacists in prison? I think you better look into that stat a little deeper, you'll find you are quite wrong.



Help me understand the hatred!
Has literally zero to do with hatred. If you go and read what BLM stands for, and you have a lick of common sense, you wouldn't support them either. And if claim to be a Christian you definitely wouldn't !!


What have Blacks done to anyone to warrant such hatred?
Who said anything about hating blacks? Are you saying if a person doesn't support BLM they hate black people ?!! You do know there are many blacks that don't support BLM right?




Should I assume everyone on this post or in this chat are Christians? If so, please explain to me why there is so much hatred towards the Black community when we are commanded to LOVE our neighbors (Matt 22:39)? And why can't they have an organization to fight for equality?
I personally don't know anyone that hates black people, and I live in the south. Maybe you need to stop watching liberal news. IDK There are racist people, there always will be. But the vast majority of people don't hate blacks or any other minority. And once again, BLM is not fighting for black people. Check out what they believe and get informed.
 
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....why whenever a Black organization rises to fight for equality, it is deemed as a "terrorist" , "radical" or "militant" group when there are groups such as the Klu Klux Klan and other White Supremacy groups and their descendants can openly kill and spread hatred towards another group of people without penalties.

You are seriously misinformed of the facts. You need to dig deeper and stop believing everything the liberal MSM tells you.
 
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kaylagrl

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This is a valid source?

BLM is their own best source on what they believe. Go take a look. They are neither for black lives nor anything a Christian should be supporting.
 
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This has absolutely squat to do with your first amendment rights. An employer reserve the right to fire any employee who engages in an activity that makes his company look bad
You’re right. Saying differently is in fact pure communism.
 
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A company has to protect their bottom line and protect themselves from being boycotted
if you work for me and I see you making racist or otherwise hateful comments on social media, best believe you won't have a job and next day
Correct This is what capitalism is about.
 
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kaylagrl

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Yes red herring, otherwise known as whataboutism...
Police officers are abusing their authority and killing people for no reason but yeah what about abortion

How is it that every single thing someone brings up is a red herring or straw man fallacy with you? Whataboutism?? 60 million innocent lives taken Dude, please don't joke about that. And black women are 5 times more likely to abort. If black lives mattered, those lives would matter, but BLM won't say a word against Planned Parenthood. People are going to call out your hypocrisy when PP has killed more blacks than the clan and white cops ever have. You can say the other two need to be dealt with, ok fine. But why wouldn't you attend to the worse issue first, the one that takes the most black lives, PP ??
 
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Why isn’t anyone asking why there’s so many abortions? I don’t think anyone is having an abortion for their own amusement. Hopelessness is most likely the great provider when it comes to abortion. We have to deal with the social unjust in society. That’s where we have to start.
 
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kaylagrl

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these are private owned media companies and are under no obligation to honor your free speech.
Same way you can tell me to leave your house if I say something you don't like

That would be true except they say they honor free speech and pat themselves on the back. They don't.
 
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But why is that? We are the ones mandated by God to show love, peace and unity. We are supposed to bring light in the world, not darkness. We are supposed to let our light so shine before men so they could see our GOOD works and glorify our Father. (Matt 5:16 Paraphrased). That us NOT what I am reading.

I truly did not expect conversations like these.

I truly did not expect

I can't speak for others, only myself. I have quickly looked at some of the responses but I'm not sure what you are seeing that says hatred of blacks to you. I must have missed it. But if you believe that if a person doesn't support BLM that they hate blacks, there are black people speaking out against them right now. Unless you have read up on them you are being seriously led astray. Disagreeing with BLM doesn't mean you hate blacks. And again, if you are a Christian you could never support BLM. You said this may not be the forum for you. I think you may be right. People are going to bring you the facts and if that upsets you and you see it as hate, then you're in the wrong place. I've never said that to anyone coming here. But I can see you are quite deluded about BLM. I don't hate blacks, in the least. And despite with Dude says I was in ministry 20 yrs. and traveled to thousands of churches, more than he will ever see, and saw black, white, Asian, Jewish people all worshiping together, I saw no hate. I traveled in both north and south. Are there racist people? Yes, absolutely. Are the majority of people racist, no, not in the least. In parting I'll say this, be very careful of the narrative you listen to and groups you support. On the surface it make look sweet as honey, but one bite will tell you it's rotten to the core. Blessings.
 

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Yep the MSM is by far more powerful than both Democrats or Republicans as an organization and nobody can vote them out of office.
 

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I can't speak for others, only myself. I have quickly looked at some of the responses but I'm not sure what you are seeing that says hatred of blacks to you. I must have missed it. But if you believe that if a person doesn't support BLM that they hate blacks, there are black people speaking out against them right now. Unless you have read up on them you are being seriously led astray. Disagreeing with BLM doesn't mean you hate blacks. And again, if you are a Christian you could never support BLM. You said this may not be the forum for you. I think you may be right. People are going to bring you the facts and if that upsets you and you see it as hate, then you're in the wrong place. I've never said that to anyone coming here. But I can see you are quite deluded about BLM. I don't hate blacks, in the least. And despite with Dude says I was in ministry 20 yrs. and traveled to thousands of churches, more than he will ever see, and saw black, white, Asian, Jewish people all worshiping together, I saw no hate. I traveled in both north and south. Are there racist people? Yes, absolutely. Are the majority of people racist, no, not in the least. In parting I'll say this, be very careful of the narrative you listen to and groups you support. On the surface it make look sweet as honey, but one bite will tell you it's rotten to the core. Blessings.

Yep if you say don't touch it it's hot very few will listen so all you can do is hope they don't get burned too bad. In the end they will ask themselves if BLM made things better or worse because many seem to see this negative when they did not before this all began.
 
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A company has to protect their bottom line and protect themselves from being boycotted
if you work for me and I see you making racist or otherwise hateful comments on social media, best believe you won't have a job and next day


I would hope so, as I would also hope if You as the owner was racist, I would make it known and destroy your business. I think fair is fair!
 
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kaylagrl

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Why isn’t anyone asking why there’s so many abortions? I don’t think anyone is having an abortion for their own amusement. Hopelessness is most likely the great provider when it comes to abortion. We have to deal with the social unjust in society. That’s where we have to start.

I think there are several factors. I talk a lot on forums of those that support or have had abortions. Many of them have been brain washed to believe that what is inside of them isn't human, it's a fetus. So to them it's the same as getting a tooth removed. They still believe 1970 talking points that science has long since debunked. I would say that's one of the biggest reasons there are so many abortions today.
 
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That would be true except they say they honor free speech and pat themselves on the back. They don't.
wondering if anyone has seen the interview with the woman who created a bit of rant and got herself fired by BLM or similar as over 1000 people phoned in to the company she worked for and complained. Turns out, there are people online who go around looking for the type of comments she made (not anti black, just fed up with the whole thing) and then bombard where they work to get them fired.

She has also been told by these people that she will never work again and they are going after her family.

This is well organized and planned terrorism and communism at its glorious best - check out the new 'laws' in Hong Kong. They give the devil chills the way they have things set up now. This is what is planned through BLM and other communist groups here.

There is no free speech anymore. There is only agree with the party line. Thank you Stalin.

Black Lives Matter? more like Break Lives not Black
 

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Again, a private owned media corporation is under no obligation to honor your free speech
you have Free speech but a private owned Media company is not obligated to give you a platform
Also Free speech doesn't mean freedom of consequences
A company reserves the right to fire you if you say something on social media that paints them in a negative light as you represent them
A private owned company who promotes itself as unbias social media chat platform is false advertising which is wrong.

Private parties, such as consumers or competitors, can file a complaint for false advertising under the Lanham Act. To establish a violation under the Lanham Act, consumers and competitors must prove the following: (1) the advertiser made false statements of fact about its product; (2) the false advertisements actually deceived or had the capacity to deceive a substantial segment of the target population; (3) the deception was material; (4) the falsely advertised product was sold in interstate commerce; and (5) the party bringing the lawsuit (plaintiff) was injured as a result of the deception. Injury is construed as a likelihood of injury, rather than actual injury.

What they promote is false, deceptive, and has injured others by fueling the lies and hate of the radical left who have acted on the narrative being promoted. Also the link to terrorism gets by way too easily on Facebook.

A company has no right to do anything when you are on your time and you are not speaking of the company. Just as a High school football coach on his time can pray before a football game and by law shouldn't be fired. This is just more liberal nonsense and people who don't understand the first amendment.