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as long as a member continues to
Misrepresent what I believe. I will
Continue to call it what it is. It is breaking one of the ten commands.
If people do Not want to be called out. Then humble yourself and for once admit you misunderstand or mistook what I believe. Continue to lie. And you hurt yourself
Misrepresent what I believe. I will
Continue to call it what it is. It is breaking one of the ten commands.
If people do Not want to be called out. Then humble yourself and for once admit you misunderstand or mistook what I believe. Continue to lie. And you hurt yourself
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@preacher4truth , I have to be honest here, as far as I know EG has always defended this truth. Your differences lie in other aspects of Calvinism, not the 'osas/ change of life' part. Me and him start tossing chairs and tables around when it comes to discussing matters of faith and believing but he's always defended the changed/changing life as the standard of the true Christian.
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Really?
as usual you must not have read the post, we had this same discussion a few weeks ago,I called you out for misrepresenting my posts, then You went on a rampage of calling me a liar and demanding I prove my lies
so this could be no one but you?
are you going to tell me oncefallen got it wrong? Now several other people have agreed amd have told you the same thing and you insist they are all wrong?
when will you admit you are wrong?
as usual you must not have read the post, we had this same discussion a few weeks ago,I called you out for misrepresenting my posts, then You went on a rampage of calling me a liar and demanding I prove my lies
so this could be no one but you?
are you going to tell me oncefallen got it wrong? Now several other people have agreed amd have told you the same thing and you insist they are all wrong?
when will you admit you are wrong?
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@Oncefallen
once again this continues, even after a few people have told him that he is misrepresenting what I believe (and others) he continue to bear false witness, then gets angry when people call him out, Can we please do something about his
once again this continues, even after a few people have told him that he is misrepresenting what I believe (and others) he continue to bear false witness, then gets angry when people call him out, Can we please do something about his
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Romans 5:8
We did not possess God's grace while we were yet sinners. It was made available to us while we were yet sinners. And that grace, that was made available to us while we were yet sinners, is only given to those who respond in faith to the offer of that grace. Faith is the conduit through which God's grace flows.
"Jesus Christ, 2through whom we have gained access by faith into this grace in which we now stand. " - Romans 5:
"5who through faith are shielded by God’s power until the coming of the salvation that is ready to be revealed in the last time. " - 1 Peter 1:5
No faith means no conduit through which to receive God's grace. That's why we have to believe, and keep on believing, in order to be in the grace of God. Freegrace says you still have God's grace in salvation even if you no longer have the conduit of faith by which you receive God's grace in salvation.
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Romans 5:8
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@preacher4truth , @eternally-gratefull , I liked the discussion about election and predestination. I'm pretty sure that's where your doctrinal differences exist. But as far as I can see you two are on the same page in regard to the changed life of the true believer and always being saved.
Sometimes I'll use the phrase 'I chose to be saved' knowing full well that the Bible says we did not choose him, he chose us. I mean it in the sense that God initiates salvation, not man, but we choose to respond to the offer he initiates. I think even Calvinism says that. It's just that God sovereignly gives the believer the correct response to the gospel message, and withholds it from the unbeliever. Correct?
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