All nations shall flow unto it

[rhern]

Many speak of the Reign of Christ as being a spiritual happening but it is going to be a physical experience.


Isaiah 2 (KJV)


2 And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the Lord's house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it.

3 And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the Lord, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the Lord from Jerusalem.

4 And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.

 

[Truth7t7]

Many speak of the Reign of Christ as being a spiritual happening but it is going to be a physical experience.


Isaiah 2 (KJV)


2 And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the Lord's house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it.

3 And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the Lord, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the Lord from Jerusalem.

4 And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.

Yes Isaiah Chapter 2 is the (Day Of The Lord) when man's literal breath is taken, the kingdom seen is the (Eternal Kingdom) after the final judgement.

Yes this kingdom will be physical, houses, vineyards, fish, fishing nets, as seen in other passages that show this kingdom.

Isaiah 2:19-22KJV
19 And they shall go into the holes of the rocks, and into the caves of the earth, for fear of the Lord, and for the glory of his majesty, when he ariseth to shake terribly the earth.
20 In that day a man shall cast his idols of silver, and his idols of gold, which they made each one for himself to worship, to the moles and to the bats;
21 To go into the clefts of the rocks, and into the tops of the ragged rocks, for fear of the Lord, and for the glory of his majesty, when he ariseth to shake terribly the earth.
22 Cease ye from man, whose breath is in his nostrils: for wherein is he to be accounted of ?

Revelation 6:13-17KJV
13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.
14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.
15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;
16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:
17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?

 

[Guojing]

Many speak of the Reign of Christ as being a spiritual happening but it is going to be a physical experience.


Isaiah 2 (KJV)


2 And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the Lord's house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it.

3 And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the Lord, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the Lord from Jerusalem.

4 And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.

Yes the gospel of the kingdom was based on all the gentile nations of the world to be blessed thru the rise of Israel

Every Jew who studied the OT knew that so when their king is finally presented to them in the 4 gospels, they were suppose to accept him as their king

But free choice got in the way, Israel rejected Jesus

 

[Lucy-Pevensie]

Micah 4 (NASB)

And it will come about in the last days
That the mountain of the house of the Lord
Will be established as the chief of the mountains.
It will be raised above the hills,
And the peoples will stream to it.
2 Many nations will come and say,
“Come and let us go up to the mountain of the Lord
And to the house of the God of Jacob,
That He may teach us about His ways
And that we may walk in His paths.”
For from Zion will go forth the law,
Even the word of the Lord from Jerusalem.
3 And He will judge between many peoples
And render decisions for mighty, distant nations.
Then they will hammer their swords into plowshares
And their spears into pruning hooks;
Nation will not lift up sword against nation,
And never again will they train for war.
4 Each of them will sit under his vine
And under his fig tree,
With no one to make them afraid,
For the mouth of the Lord of hosts has spoken.
5 Though all the peoples walk
Each in the name of his god,
As for us, we will walk
In the name of the Lord our God forever and ever.
6 “In that day,” declares the Lord,
“I will assemble the lame
And gather the outcasts,
Even those whom I have afflicted.
7 “I will make the lame a remnant
And the outcasts a strong nation,
And the Lord will reign over them in Mount Zion
From now on and forever.​

 

[Corban]

Yes Isaiah Chapter 2 is the (Day Of The Lord) when man's literal breath is taken, the kingdom seen is the (Eternal Kingdom) after the final judgement.

Yes this kingdom will be physical, houses, vineyards, fish, fishing nets, as seen in other passages that show this kingdom.

Isaiah 2:19-22KJV
19 And they shall go into the holes of the rocks, and into the caves of the earth, for fear of the Lord, and for the glory of his majesty, when he ariseth to shake terribly the earth.
20 In that day a man shall cast his idols of silver, and his idols of gold, which they made each one for himself to worship, to the moles and to the bats;
21 To go into the clefts of the rocks, and into the tops of the ragged rocks, for fear of the Lord, and for the glory of his majesty, when he ariseth to shake terribly the earth.
22 Cease ye from man, whose breath is in his nostrils: for wherein is he to be accounted of ?

Revelation 6:13-17KJV
13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.
14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.
15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;
16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:
17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?

But in another thread you have vehemently maintained that it is a "Spiritual Kingdom" and that a literal Kingdom is false teaching.

And you quote the end of Isaiah Chapter 2 to invalidate verses 1-5. But the prophet clearly speaks of TWO different times. Verses 1-5 concern the "latter days" (lit. Heb.). Verses 6 to the end of the Chapter speak of the PRESENT. Isaiah first COMFORTS with a future solution to Israel's chastisement. Then, in verse 6 he turn to what they are DOING THEN.

But consider this,
2 "And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the Lord's house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it."

How will the nations flow to the Lord's House if they have no breath?

3 "And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the Lord, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the Lord from Jerusalem."

Who are the "many people" who need to be taught the Lord's way? The Church is taught already. Israel will not need to be taught (Jer.31:31-33). That only leaves the Nations of verse 2. But you say they are all dead.

4 "And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more."

Who are these NATIONS? They are rebuked by the Lord. Are dead men rebuked? They "beat". Do dead men change swords into agricultural implements? And who are the NATIONS (plural) who will not cause war anymore? Dead men? I think not.

Isaiah 2:2-4 shows a literal period of time when the God of Jacob will dwell in a literal House in ZION and teach literal Nations who, because war is forbidden by this God of Jacob, reform their weapons into agricultural implements because the harvests are so big (Amos 9:11-13).

 

[p_rehbein]

First: If you guys go for the New Earth thing, hey, that's fine with me, it's your belief.

Second: I have a more Heavenly view of Eternal Life...........

1 Corinthians, Chapter 15:

39) All flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, and another of birds.
40) There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another.
41) There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory.
42) So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:
43) It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:
44) It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
45) And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
46) Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.
47) The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.
48) As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.
49) And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.
50) Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.


51) Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
52) In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
53) For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
54) So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.
55) O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?
56) The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.
57) But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.
58) Therefore, my beloved brethren, be ye stedfast, unmoveable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, forasmuch as ye know that your labour is not in vain in the Lord.

 

[Corban]

First: If you guys go for the New Earth thing, hey, that's fine with me, it's your belief.

Second: I have a more Heavenly view of Eternal Life...........

1 Corinthians, Chapter 15:

39) All flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, and another of birds.
40) There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another.
41) There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory.
42) So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:
43) It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:
44) It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
45) And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
46) Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.
47) The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.
48) As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.
49) And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.
50) Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.


51) Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
52) In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
53) For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
54) So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.
55) O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?
56) The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.
57) But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.
58) Therefore, my beloved brethren, be ye stedfast, unmoveable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, forasmuch as ye know that your labour is not in vain in the Lord.

I'm not sure of your point, so just scratch my posting if I've missed it. But you address something very important with that verse 50 that you made bold.

In any Kingdom you have (i) the king, (ii) the kings SERVANTS who administer the kingdom, and (iii) the SUBJECTS who are ruled by the king and his servants. The Kingdom of God of God is no different. There is a King who is Owner and sovereign Master - Jehovah - a Spirit (Jn.4:24). But it is a physical universe and Jehovah has made physical servants to rule over a physical earth. Our Lord Jesus, "first born of all creation" (Col.1:15) is God's choice to be above all kings. He is the HEIR of this Kingdom (Heb.1:2). But Jehovah ordained, in His eternal councils and wisdom, that it would be MEN (plural) who would rule (Gen.1:26-28). But men polluted their BODIES with fruit from a Tree of death, and so your verse above in 1st Corinthians 15 says that the combination of flesh and BLOOD is unfit for any of those men who would be HEIRS. It was by one man that sin came in (Rom.5:12) and it is the BLOOD that has the LIFE and which propagates this sinful nature (Gen.9:4; Act.17:26).

So, on the one hand you have God's unchangeable purpose, and on the other hand you have ALL men EXCEPT Jesus coming from corrupted source. There is only one solution. The old must die, and the LIFE source, the BLOOD, must disappear. Remember, this is ONLY for those who would be HEIRS. So God first shows a beautiful picture of this solution - Eve. She comes fro Jesus but via the BONE. And Eve is a picture of the Church - the Wife of Christ. When Adam sees her, he does not say, "Look! My flesh and my BLOOD!". He says; "Behold! Flesh of my flesh and BONE of my BONE!" (Gen.2:23). This is transferred to the Church. "We are members of his body, of his FLESH, and of his BONES" (Ephesians 5:30). The blood as a source of life IS GONE.

So, 1st Corinthians 15:50 shows that the combination of FLESH and BLOOD cannot INHERIT the Kingdom, and that we must be CHANGED". How? by death and resurrection. The body is SOWN (in death) as one thing, and comes DIFFERENTLY. But God needs our Bodies to be the members of the Body of Christ (1st Cor.6:15), so the BODY is kept but in heavenly ("celestial") glory. But the blood is gone. Instead of LIFE by the blood, we have Eternal Life. Israel and the Nations did not believe, so their bodies are resurrected with "terrestrial glory". But the HEIRS to a heavenly Kingdom, are of the heavenly calling (Heb.3:1) and are born from above (Jn.3:3-5 lit. Gk.). You can see this in New Jerusalem where we get to eat the fruit of the Tree of Life, but the Nations are only healed by the leaves. That is, because they do not have eternal life they must be kept alive by a continual healing process.

The main point I wanted to make is that our BODIES are needed for both the Body of Christ, to be His Bride, and to rule a physical Kingdom on earth.

 

[MattforJesus]

Many speak of the Reign of Christ as being a spiritual happening but it is going to be a physical experience.


Isaiah 2 (KJV)


2 And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the Lord's house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it.

3 And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the Lord, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the Lord from Jerusalem.

4 And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.

Eze 39:21 And I will set my glory among the heathen, and all the heathen shall see my judgment that I have executed, and my hand that I have laid upon them.
Eze 39:22 So the house of Israel shall know that I am the LORD their God from that day and forward.
Eze 39:23 And the heathen shall know that the house of Israel went into captivity for their iniquity: because they trespassed against me, therefore hid I my face from them, and gave them into the hand of their enemies: so fell they all by the sword.
Eze 39:24 According to their uncleanness and according to their transgressions have I done unto them, and hid my face from them.

Eze 39:25 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Now will I bring again the captivity of Jacob, and have mercy upon the whole house of Israel, and will be jealous for my holy name;
Eze 39:26 After that they have borne their shame, and all their trespasses whereby they have trespassed against me, when they dwelt safely in their land, and none made them afraid.
Eze 39:27 When I have brought them again from the people, and gathered them out of their enemies' lands, and am sanctified in them in the sight of many nations;
Eze 39:28 Then shall they know that I am the LORD their God, which caused them to be led into captivity among the heathen: but I have gathered them unto their own land, and have left none of them any more there.
Eze 39:29 Neither will I hide my face any more from them: for I have poured out my spirit upon the house of Israel, saith the Lord GOD.

Act 1:6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?
Act 1:7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.

Rom 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
Rom 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
Rom 11:27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.

Zec 14:1 Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.
Zec 14:2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
Zec 14:3 Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.

Zec 14:9 And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one.

Isa 11:6 The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them.
Isa 11:7 And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox.
Isa 11:8 And the sucking child shall play on the hole of the asp, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the cockatrice' den.
Isa 11:9 They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the LORD, as the waters cover the sea.
Isa 11:10 And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse, which shall stand for an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his rest shall be glorious.

Zec 14:16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.

Jer 46:28 Fear thou not, O Jacob my servant, saith the LORD: for I am with thee; for I will make a full end of all the nations whither I have driven thee: but I will not make a full end of thee, but correct thee in measure; yet will I not leave thee wholly unpunished.

The kingdom will be restored to Israel, and Jesus will rule out of Jerusalem over the heathen that God spared at the battle of Armageddon.

The plan of America is to establish the new age movement in the world as standard religion, and produce the New Age Christ.

United Nations agenda 21 in 1992 is a peace plan for the world which 179 nations agreed to it, which is the agenda for the 21st century.

It is time for the nations to come together which can only operate by a centralized government based on communism, or totalitarian, for they must put everyone equal economically, and social status wise, for that is the only way they will come together, and to have peace for then there is no division.

America is going to go to a communistic government by a series of conflicts starting with the coronavirus, and there will be no more Republican and Democrat party.

Republican and Democrat were working together for they cover the beliefs of the people, and the nation covers the beliefs of the world, and then they will bring them together as one.

On the back of the dollar bill, announcing the conception of a new order of the ages, and out of many, one.

The stimulus check is a pattern for basic income.

They will give the people a vaccination with nanochips in them so they can start tracking people.

They want the protests for equality, and against police brutality, and for it to get out of hand, for they are going to take away the police force, and the military will be the law enforcement.

Also the Republican and Democrat parties cause people to argue over the 2 parties, and get violent, which they want that conflict.

The the nations will follow suit and the nations will come together as one with no division in anything and work for peace on earth.

Then the New Age Christ will establish peace in the Middle East between the Jews and Palestinians, and push the agenda of the new age movement and it will be standard religion, and anything taught contrary to it will be a hate crime, for they will say it is not the truth, and they want peace not division.

All Jews will go back to Israel for the Gentile nations will cause it to happen, and the New Age Christ wants them all back on their land, but God means it for good towards the Jews for He will restore the kingdom to the Jews.

All people will be taken out of the rural areas and placed in the cities where they will be tracked, and the people will have social programs, and everybody will watch out for crime, and no people can own guns, and if they cannot handle the problems then the military will handle it.

1Ti 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
1Ti 4:2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
1Ti 4:3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
1Ti 4:4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:
1Ti 4:5 For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.

2Ti 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
2Ti 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
2Ti 4:4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

The new age movement interprets the Bible according to the occult, and evolution, and people are still evolving to be greater and spiritual provided by the New Age Christ, and Jesus is not Lord and Savior, but a good teacher and love, and the Christ conscience came upon him, and he evolved to be an ascended master and avatar, and believe in no personal God, but honor the God of forces, or the power of nature as their higher power, the evolutionary process, and the New Age Christ is the final teacher, and they believe the Christ conscience will come upon him, and he will evolve to be greater and spiritual above Jesus, and all who follow him will evolve.

They will forbid to marry for a man and a woman for population reduction, and command to abstain from meats, reverence of nature, mother earth.

They interpret the Bible, religions, and reality differently now, so things are going to change because of that.

That is why they took prayer out of school and taught evolution, and the American government wanted the counter culture movement to rebel against authority, and to be immoral, and division so they would exalt themselves, and then they would put them together as one.

 

[p_rehbein]

The main point I wanted to make is that our BODIES are needed for both the Body of Christ, to be His Bride, and to rule a physical Kingdom on earth.

Which is why I posted those Scriptures. IF you are speaking of the New Earth after Judgement, then read the Scriptures again, because that is what I believe.

As I said, I have no problem with you believing as you wish......BUT.......when that last Trump sounds, and the Eastern Sky splits, and Christ descends in all His Glory with the Saints that have gone before, I'm gonna be "changed in the blink of an eye, and caught up to be with Him forever in Heaven."

So, I will not be on that New Earth, but if that is where you want to spend eternity, that's ok with me.

 

[rhern]

First: If you guys go for the New Earth thing, hey, that's fine with me, it's your belief.

Second: I have a more Heavenly view of Eternal Life...........

1 Corinthians, Chapter 15:

39) All flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, and another of birds.
40) There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another.
41) There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory.
42) So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:
43) It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:
44) It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
45) And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
46) Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.
47) The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.
48) As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.
49) And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.
50) Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.


51) Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
52) In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
53) For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
54) So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.
55) O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?
56) The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.
57) But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.
58) Therefore, my beloved brethren, be ye stedfast, unmoveable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, forasmuch as ye know that your labour is not in vain in the Lord.

not flesh and blood but flesh and bone

before Adam sinned:

Genesis 2:23 (KJV)
23 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.

after His resurrection Jesus ate solid food

Luke 24:36-43 (KJV)
36 And as they thus spake, Jesus himself stood in the midst of them, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.
37 But they were terrified and affrighted, and supposed that they had seen a spirit.
38 And he said unto them, Why are ye troubled? and why do thoughts arise in your hearts?
39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.
40 And when he had thus spoken, he shewed them his hands and his feet.
41 And while they yet believed not for joy, and wondered, he said unto them, Have ye here any meat?
42 And they gave him a piece of a broiled fish, and of an honeycomb.
43 And he took it, and did eat before them.

we will be like Him:

1 John 3:2 (KJV)
2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.

 

[rhern]

Eze 39:21 And I will set my glory among the heathen, and all the heathen shall see my judgment that I have executed, and my hand that I have laid upon them.
Eze 39:22 So the house of Israel shall know that I am the LORD their God from that day and forward.
Eze 39:23 And the heathen shall know that the house of Israel went into captivity for their iniquity: because they trespassed against me, therefore hid I my face from them, and gave them into the hand of their enemies: so fell they all by the sword.
Eze 39:24 According to their uncleanness and according to their transgressions have I done unto them, and hid my face from them.

Eze 39:25 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Now will I bring again the captivity of Jacob, and have mercy upon the whole house of Israel, and will be jealous for my holy name;
Eze 39:26 After that they have borne their shame, and all their trespasses whereby they have trespassed against me, when they dwelt safely in their land, and none made them afraid.
Eze 39:27 When I have brought them again from the people, and gathered them out of their enemies' lands, and am sanctified in them in the sight of many nations;
Eze 39:28 Then shall they know that I am the LORD their God, which caused them to be led into captivity among the heathen: but I have gathered them unto their own land, and have left none of them any more there.
Eze 39:29 Neither will I hide my face any more from them: for I have poured out my spirit upon the house of Israel, saith the Lord GOD.

Act 1:6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?
Act 1:7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.

Rom 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
Rom 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
Rom 11:27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.

Zec 14:1 Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.
Zec 14:2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
Zec 14:3 Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.

Zec 14:9 And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one.

Isa 11:6 The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them.
Isa 11:7 And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox.
Isa 11:8 And the sucking child shall play on the hole of the asp, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the cockatrice' den.
Isa 11:9 They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the LORD, as the waters cover the sea.
Isa 11:10 And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse, which shall stand for an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his rest shall be glorious.

Zec 14:16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.

Jer 46:28 Fear thou not, O Jacob my servant, saith the LORD: for I am with thee; for I will make a full end of all the nations whither I have driven thee: but I will not make a full end of thee, but correct thee in measure; yet will I not leave thee wholly unpunished.

The kingdom will be restored to Israel, and Jesus will rule out of Jerusalem over the heathen that God spared at the battle of Armageddon.

The plan of America is to establish the new age movement in the world as standard religion, and produce the New Age Christ.

United Nations agenda 21 in 1992 is a peace plan for the world which 179 nations agreed to it, which is the agenda for the 21st century.

It is time for the nations to come together which can only operate by a centralized government based on communism, or totalitarian, for they must put everyone equal economically, and social status wise, for that is the only way they will come together, and to have peace for then there is no division.

America is going to go to a communistic government by a series of conflicts starting with the coronavirus, and there will be no more Republican and Democrat party.

Republican and Democrat were working together for they cover the beliefs of the people, and the nation covers the beliefs of the world, and then they will bring them together as one.

On the back of the dollar bill, announcing the conception of a new order of the ages, and out of many, one.

The stimulus check is a pattern for basic income.

They will give the people a vaccination with nanochips in them so they can start tracking people.

They want the protests for equality, and against police brutality, and for it to get out of hand, for they are going to take away the police force, and the military will be the law enforcement.

Also the Republican and Democrat parties cause people to argue over the 2 parties, and get violent, which they want that conflict.

The the nations will follow suit and the nations will come together as one with no division in anything and work for peace on earth.

Then the New Age Christ will establish peace in the Middle East between the Jews and Palestinians, and push the agenda of the new age movement and it will be standard religion, and anything taught contrary to it will be a hate crime, for they will say it is not the truth, and they want peace not division.

All Jews will go back to Israel for the Gentile nations will cause it to happen, and the New Age Christ wants them all back on their land, but God means it for good towards the Jews for He will restore the kingdom to the Jews.

All people will be taken out of the rural areas and placed in the cities where they will be tracked, and the people will have social programs, and everybody will watch out for crime, and no people can own guns, and if they cannot handle the problems then the military will handle it.

1Ti 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
1Ti 4:2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
1Ti 4:3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
1Ti 4:4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:
1Ti 4:5 For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.

2Ti 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
2Ti 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
2Ti 4:4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

The new age movement interprets the Bible according to the occult, and evolution, and people are still evolving to be greater and spiritual provided by the New Age Christ, and Jesus is not Lord and Savior, but a good teacher and love, and the Christ conscience came upon him, and he evolved to be an ascended master and avatar, and believe in no personal God, but honor the God of forces, or the power of nature as their higher power, the evolutionary process, and the New Age Christ is the final teacher, and they believe the Christ conscience will come upon him, and he will evolve to be greater and spiritual above Jesus, and all who follow him will evolve.

They will forbid to marry for a man and a woman for population reduction, and command to abstain from meats, reverence of nature, mother earth.

They interpret the Bible, religions, and reality differently now, so things are going to change because of that.

That is why they took prayer out of school and taught evolution, and the American government wanted the counter culture movement to rebel against authority, and to be immoral, and division so they would exalt themselves, and then they would put them together as one.

sorry but America is never mentioned in the Bible.

Christians are members of the Body of Christ, Jesus is the Head.

 

[MattforJesus]

sorry but America is never mentioned in the Bible.

Christians are members of the Body of Christ, Jesus is the Head.

There is nothing special about America, and of course the Christians are members of the body of Christ, Jesus is the head.

And I am talking about Israel that all nations shall flow unto them, and am only pointing out America as the reason the nations came together, which is not according to God's operation on earth, and they rebel against God, and Israel comes to the truth.

Then in the millennial reign Jesus will rule over the heathen that God spared, and Israel will be the only kingdom on earth.

Without the influence of America in their nation, and in the world the nations would of not come together, and there is a reason that America built up China who now owns Walmart.

Rev 18:2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.

Rev 18:3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.

Rev 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

Rev 18:7 How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow.

Rev 18:8 Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.

America has punishment coming.

The Bible says Babylon will never have physical dominion again, so this is Babylon in spirit which America brought about the Babylonian system which represents human religion, the occult, and the kingdom of man.

 

[rhern]

There is nothing special about America, and of course the Christians are members of the body of Christ, Jesus is the head.

And I am talking about Israel that all nations shall flow unto them, and am only pointing out America as the reason the nations came together, which is not according to God's operation on earth, and they rebel against God, and Israel comes to the truth.

Then in the millennial reign Jesus will rule over the heathen that God spared, and Israel will be the only kingdom on earth.

Without the influence of America in their nation, and in the world the nations would of not come together, and there is a reason that America built up China who now owns Walmart.

Rev 18:2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.

Rev 18:3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.

Rev 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

Rev 18:7 How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow.

Rev 18:8 Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.

America has punishment coming.

The Bible says Babylon will never have physical dominion again, so this is Babylon in spirit which America brought about the Babylonian system which represents human religion, the occult, and the kingdom of man.

I agree the wicked will be punished.

but as far as the the Kingdom time line,

God has mentioned that the gentiles must trample over the Jews until the times of the Gentile is complete.

the key word is until.... after this begins the next phase

We can speculate the sequence of event but this is all in vane

please check out these scriptures:

Luke 21:24 (KJV)
24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.

Romans 11:25 (KJV)
25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

Notice -blindness in part... the Jews will regain there vision after God is finished with the gentiles

 

[Blik]

The idea that scripture can be divided between spiritual and physical is a fleshly idea and not from the Lord. The Gnostics did this and the book of Colossians tells us this is not understanding truth.

God uses physical truth to teach us the spiritual truths. Even the true physical history of all the people God led in the wilderness was a true happening we should learn, and it was also a spiritual picture of God freeing us of sin. We are to see both spiritual and physical.

 

[rhern]

The idea that scripture can be divided between spiritual and physical is a fleshly idea and not from the Lord. The Gnostics did this and the book of Colossians tells us this is not understanding truth.

God uses physical truth to teach us the spiritual truths. Even the true physical history of all the people God led in the wilderness was a true happening we should learn, and it was also a spiritual picture of God freeing us of sin. We are to see both spiritual and physical.

Luke 18:27 (KJV)
27 And he said, The things which are impossible with men are possible with God.

Proverbs 14:12 King James Version (KJV)
12 There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.

God's Words do not lie. read the scriptures.

Do you not believe that Jesus was flesh and bone?

 

[rhern]

The idea that scripture can be divided between spiritual and physical is a fleshly idea and not from the Lord. The Gnostics did this and the book of Colossians tells us this is not understanding truth.

God uses physical truth to teach us the spiritual truths. Even the true physical history of all the people God led in the wilderness was a true happening we should learn, and it was also a spiritual picture of God freeing us of sin. We are to see both spiritual and physical.

if the Kingdom is a spiritual world The Lord will not need any help controlling the masses.

Matthew 19: (KJV)
27 Then answered Peter and said unto him, Behold, we have forsaken all, and followed thee; what shall we have therefore?

28 And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

 

[Truth7t7]

But in another thread you have vehemently maintained that it is a "Spiritual Kingdom" and that a literal Kingdom is false teaching.

And you quote the end of Isaiah Chapter 2 to invalidate verses 1-5. But the prophet clearly speaks of TWO different times. Verses 1-5 concern the "latter days" (lit. Heb.). Verses 6 to the end of the Chapter speak of the PRESENT. Isaiah first COMFORTS with a future solution to Israel's chastisement. Then, in verse 6 he turn to what they are DOING THEN.

But consider this,
2 "And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the Lord's house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it."

How will the nations flow to the Lord's House if they have no breath?

3 "And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the Lord, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the Lord from Jerusalem."

Who are the "many people" who need to be taught the Lord's way? The Church is taught already. Israel will not need to be taught (Jer.31:31-33). That only leaves the Nations of verse 2. But you say they are all dead.

4 "And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more."

Who are these NATIONS? They are rebuked by the Lord. Are dead men rebuked? They "beat". Do dead men change swords into agricultural implements? And who are the NATIONS (plural) who will not cause war anymore? Dead men? I think not.

Isaiah 2:2-4 shows a literal period of time when the God of Jacob will dwell in a literal House in ZION and teach literal Nations who, because war is forbidden by this God of Jacob, reform their weapons into agricultural implements because the harvests are so big (Amos 9:11-13).

It is a literal, tangible, yet 100% a (Spiritual Kingdom)

The angels that destroyed Sodom were tangible and eternal, and they ate physical earthly food, yet "Spiritually Eternal"

 

[Truth7t7]

But in another thread you have vehemently maintained that it is a "Spiritual Kingdom" and that a literal Kingdom is false teaching.

And you quote the end of Isaiah Chapter 2 to invalidate verses 1-5. But the prophet clearly speaks of TWO different times. Verses 1-5 concern the "latter days" (lit. Heb.). Verses 6 to the end of the Chapter speak of the PRESENT. Isaiah first COMFORTS with a future solution to Israel's chastisement. Then, in verse 6 he turn to what they are DOING THEN.

But consider this,
2 "And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the Lord's house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it."

How will the nations flow to the Lord's House if they have no breath?

3 "And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the Lord, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the Lord from Jerusalem."

Who are the "many people" who need to be taught the Lord's way? The Church is taught already. Israel will not need to be taught (Jer.31:31-33). That only leaves the Nations of verse 2. But you say they are all dead.

4 "And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more."

Who are these NATIONS? They are rebuked by the Lord. Are dead men rebuked? They "beat". Do dead men change swords into agricultural implements? And who are the NATIONS (plural) who will not cause war anymore? Dead men? I think not.

Isaiah 2:2-4 shows a literal period of time when the God of Jacob will dwell in a literal House in ZION and teach literal Nations who, because war is forbidden by this God of Jacob, reform their weapons into agricultural implements because the harvests are so big (Amos 9:11-13).

The Eternal New Heavens And Earth Is Seen Below, houses built and lived in, vineyards planted and the fruit eaten.

Isaiah 65:17-21KJV
17 For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.
18 But be ye glad and rejoice for ever in that which I create: for, behold, I create Jerusalem a rejoicing, and her people a joy.
19 And I will rejoice in Jerusalem, and joy in my people: and the voice of weeping shall be no more heard in her, nor the voice of crying.
20 There shall be no more thence an infant of days, nor an old man that hath not filled his days: for the child shall die an hundred years old; but the sinner being an hundred years old shall be accursed.
21 And they shall build houses, and inhabit them; and they shall plant vineyards, and eat the fruit of them.

 

[dcontroversal]

I am fairly confident of three things....

a. Jesus, in his glorified body could be handled

b. The throne of David was not in heaven

c. The bible is clear....GOD WILL create a NEW EARTH and JESUS, along with the SAVED will dwell i. it, with CHRIST being in the heavenly CITY, New Jerusalem!

 

[Truth7t7]

I am fairly confident of three things....

a. Jesus, in his glorified body could be handled

b. The throne of David was not in heaven

c. The bible is clear....GOD WILL create a NEW EARTH and JESUS, along with the SAVED will dwell i. it, with CHRIST being in the heavenly CITY, New Jerusalem!

The Bible teaches all the righteous saved Nations will be in New Jerusalem, the gates aren't shut, Revelation 21?