Dad's (now in heaven) comments & mine on the subject of the trinity of God as ONE GOD:

[MyrtleTrees]

I will comment on what he wrote on this before posting his comments on this subject. I can agree with what he said on these points:
*Jesus had to ascend back to heaven in order for the outpouring of the Spirit to occur
*God speaks to us through His Spirit.
*There aren't 3 Gods - rather, there is just ONE TRUE GOD, but having parts to himself. We also as humans - have parts to ourselves too - body, soul and spirit.
*We who have received Jesus as Lord (God) and Savior of our lives, are enabled to understand the scriptures with the help of God's Spirit that indwells every true believer. And none who are not led by God's Spirit, are true children of God. Romans 8:14
*It is a great necessity to understand that Jesus was God in the flesh - in other words, to recognize His deity. So I wouldn't say it as he did - saying that it was never required. It's true Jesus didn't require it before He died and rose from the dead. It was a transistional time between the Old Covenant and the coming in of the New Covenant. But after the outpouring of God's Spirit, in early Acts, I believe it was required ever after. And one proof of this is that John's followers had to be rebaptized.
Acts 19:2-6

2 He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.

3 And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism.

4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.

5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.

6 And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.
KJV


Ok now, here's Dad's writing:
THE WORK OF JESUS NOW

While Jesus was on the earth he spoke as one authorized to speak for God. He spoke, therefore, as one who had authority and not as the scribes and Pharisees. God also approved him, saying, “This is my beloved son; hear him.” The disciples did not hear from God directly, nor did they obey separate commands, some from God and some from Jesus. They said of Jesus, “You have the words of life.”

We can no longer hear Jesus’ words with our ears, but he continues to be our teacher. A significant statement in John 14: “He that hath been with you shall be in you. I come unto you.” He had been telling his disciples about the Holy Spirit. His words seem to imply that he would teach them as the Spirit of God. He also said, “If I go not away, the Comforter cannot come.” All now who have received God’s gift of the Holy Spirit have received the Spirit of Christ. If any have not received the Spirit of Christ, they do not belong to him.

Notice the oneness of God’s voice. We must avoid thinking of three voices, three Gods. The Lord our God is one God. The Holy Spirit is called the “Spirit of Christ” because Jesus was still functioning as a teacher to his followers as the Holy Spirit, and the Holy Spirit is God. God is a spirit, and there are not two spirits or three.

In the Old Testament God spoke directly to man, to Abraham and to prophets. He spoke to Pharaoh through Moses, and God told Moses that he was as God to Pharaoh, but Moses was not God. Israel was a theocracy, ruled by God, but God ruled through Moses, Joshua, and then then through judges, but none of these was God. All were apart from God.

When Jesus was departing, he instructed the apostles to make disciples, teaching them to observe all things whatsoever he had commanded them.” So, how do we know Jesus’ commandments? We find them in the scriptures where they appear as God’s word to us. We also are led of God’s Spirit. According to a wonderful statement of the New Testament gospel, found in Jeremiah 31:31, God said that He would write His laws on the hearts of His people. So, Jesus’ laws are within us. Increasingly, God’s love is shed abroad in our hearts by the Spirit which He has given.

There is one God and one mediator between God and man. That mediator is Jesus. In this, he is not God. If any man sin, he has an advocate, Jesus Christ.

It was absolutely required of Jesus’ followers that they believe that Jesus was sent of God. “If you believe not that I am he (the Messiah), you will die in your sins. Twice in the Book of Acts it is stated that certain individuals believed that God had sent Jesus. Never required that they believe that Jesus was God.

 

[Runningman]

I will comment on what he wrote on this before posting his comments on this subject. I can agree with what he said on these points:
*Jesus had to ascend back to heaven in order for the outpouring of the Spirit to occur
*God speaks to us through His Spirit.
*There aren't 3 Gods - rather, there is just ONE TRUE GOD, but having parts to himself. We also as humans - have parts to ourselves too - body, soul and spirit.
*We who have received Jesus as Lord (God) and Savior of our lives, are enabled to understand the scriptures with the help of God's Spirit that indwells every true believer. And none who are not led by God's Spirit, are true children of God. Romans 8:14
*It is a great necessity to understand that Jesus was God in the flesh - in other words, to recognize His deity. So I wouldn't say it as he did - saying that it was never required. It's true Jesus didn't require it before He died and rose from the dead. It was a transistional time between the Old Covenant and the coming in of the New Covenant. But after the outpouring of God's Spirit, in early Acts, I believe it was required ever after. And one proof of this is that John's followers had to be rebaptized.
Acts 19:2-6

2 He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.

3 And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism.

4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.

5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.

6 And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.
KJV


Ok now, here's Dad's writing:
THE WORK OF JESUS NOW

While Jesus was on the earth he spoke as one authorized to speak for God. He spoke, therefore, as one who had authority and not as the scribes and Pharisees. God also approved him, saying, “This is my beloved son; hear him.” The disciples did not hear from God directly, nor did they obey separate commands, some from God and some from Jesus. They said of Jesus, “You have the words of life.”

We can no longer hear Jesus’ words with our ears, but he continues to be our teacher. A significant statement in John 14: “He that hath been with you shall be in you. I come unto you.” He had been telling his disciples about the Holy Spirit. His words seem to imply that he would teach them as the Spirit of God. He also said, “If I go not away, the Comforter cannot come.” All now who have received God’s gift of the Holy Spirit have received the Spirit of Christ. If any have not received the Spirit of Christ, they do not belong to him.

Notice the oneness of God’s voice. We must avoid thinking of three voices, three Gods. The Lord our God is one God. The Holy Spirit is called the “Spirit of Christ” because Jesus was still functioning as a teacher to his followers as the Holy Spirit, and the Holy Spirit is God. God is a spirit, and there are not two spirits or three.

In the Old Testament God spoke directly to man, to Abraham and to prophets. He spoke to Pharaoh through Moses, and God told Moses that he was as God to Pharaoh, but Moses was not God. Israel was a theocracy, ruled by God, but God ruled through Moses, Joshua, and then then through judges, but none of these was God. All were apart from God.

When Jesus was departing, he instructed the apostles to make disciples, teaching them to observe all things whatsoever he had commanded them.” So, how do we know Jesus’ commandments? We find them in the scriptures where they appear as God’s word to us. We also are led of God’s Spirit. According to a wonderful statement of the New Testament gospel, found in Jeremiah 31:31, God said that He would write His laws on the hearts of His people. So, Jesus’ laws are within us. Increasingly, God’s love is shed abroad in our hearts by the Spirit which He has given.

There is one God and one mediator between God and man. That mediator is Jesus. In this, he is not God. If any man sin, he has an advocate, Jesus Christ.

It was absolutely required of Jesus’ followers that they believe that Jesus was sent of God. “If you believe not that I am he (the Messiah), you will die in your sins. Twice in the Book of Acts it is stated that certain individuals believed that God had sent Jesus. Never required that they believe that Jesus was God.

Do you believe that Jesus is God?

 

[MattforJesus]

The Bible says that to us there is but one God, the Father.

And one God, and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

The Bible only attributes the Father as God, which in the Old Testament God the Father told the Jews that He would reveal His new name to them, and speak to them.

Which Jesus said to Philip that if he had seen Him then he has seen the Father, and the words that He speaks are not His own, but the Father that dwells in Him, He does the works.

The Son was made of the seed of David according to the flesh, and when the fulness of the time was come God sent forth His Son, made of a woman, made under the law.

Jesus is God manifest in the flesh, which God manifest all His attributes to the man Christ Jesus, for He is the fulness of the Godhead bodily, and the Spirit in Christ is still connected to the omnipresent Spirit of God, for He cannot be separated.

The man Christ Jesus does not have His own Spirit that moves around with Him for there cannot be a double portion of the Spirit in one place, and an empty space where the Spirit is not, but the man Christ Jesus moves through the Spirit and wherever He is at the Spirit is there for the Spirit does not have to move for the Spirit is already there.

So Jesus is God, an omnipresent Spirit, that showed a visible manifestation of Himself.

There is one God who is a Holy Spirit, and Father is a title for God, and the Son is the man Christ Jesus.

Not 3 persons in one God, but the 3 relationships God has with His people designated by titles.

Father- Creator of all things, and parent of the saints.

Son- God's visible relationship to the saints, and God in visible activity.

Holy Spirit- God's invisible relationship to the saints, and God in invisible activity, which the Spirit moved in creation, Jesus was conceived by the Spirit, the Spirit dwells in the saints.

Jesus said He came in His Father's name.

The Son inherited the name Jesus from the Father.

The Holy Spirit comes in the name of Jesus.

Jews, Gentiles, and Samaritans were all baptized in Jesus' name.

Jesus is at the right hand of God.

God's right hand represents power, wisdom, and salvation.

Jesus said all power is given to Him in heaven and earth.

There is one throne in heaven, and one who sits on that throne, which is the throne of God and the Lamb, God in the glorified body of the man Christ Jesus.

There is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.

David said, the LORD said unto my Lord, sit at my right hand until I make your enemies your footstool.

Which the Son must reign until His enemies are conquered, and then the Son shall submit to the Father that God may be all in all.

God exalted the man Christ Jesus to exercise the throne of power, be at His right hand, until His enemies are conquered, and then the Son will cease being at the right hand that God may be all in all.

The only person we will see in heaven is Jesus, and if you have seen Him you have seen the Father.

Let us make man in our image.

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God, and without Him was not any thing made that was made.

In the beginning was the plan of God to come in the future in flesh, and that plan was with God before He laid down the foundation of the world, and that plan was God manifest in flesh, and without that plan God would of not created anything that He created, for Jesus is the reason creation is successful, eternal life, and to judge the angels and people.

Which Jesus is the beginning of creation although He was not born until 4000 years later.

Adam was made in the image of God.

Adam was made in the figure of Him to come who is Jesus.

The image of God is the image of Christ.

God had the plan to come in the future in flesh before He started creation, and created Adam in that image.

Let us God and the man Christ Jesus make man in the image we will appear in the future.

For the let us make man in our image has to include the man Christ Jesus for He is part of that image.

1 Co 8:6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him.

Eph 4:6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

The Bible says one God, the Father.

 

[Runningman]

The Bible says that to us there is but one God, the Father.

And one God, and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

The Bible only attributes the Father as God, which in the Old Testament God the Father told the Jews that He would reveal His new name to them, and speak to them.

Which Jesus said to Philip that if he had seen Him then he has seen the Father, and the words that He speaks are not His own, but the Father that dwells in Him, He does the works.

The Son was made of the seed of David according to the flesh, and when the fulness of the time was come God sent forth His Son, made of a woman, made under the law.

Jesus is God manifest in the flesh, which God manifest all His attributes to the man Christ Jesus, for He is the fulness of the Godhead bodily, and the Spirit in Christ is still connected to the omnipresent Spirit of God, for He cannot be separated.

The man Christ Jesus does not have His own Spirit that moves around with Him for there cannot be a double portion of the Spirit in one place, and an empty space where the Spirit is not, but the man Christ Jesus moves through the Spirit and wherever He is at the Spirit is there for the Spirit does not have to move for the Spirit is already there.

So Jesus is God, an omnipresent Spirit, that showed a visible manifestation of Himself.

There is one God who is a Holy Spirit, and Father is a title for God, and the Son is the man Christ Jesus.

Not 3 persons in one God, but the 3 relationships God has with His people designated by titles.

Father- Creator of all things, and parent of the saints.

Son- God's visible relationship to the saints, and God in visible activity.

Holy Spirit- God's invisible relationship to the saints, and God in invisible activity, which the Spirit moved in creation, Jesus was conceived by the Spirit, the Spirit dwells in the saints.

Jesus said He came in His Father's name.

The Son inherited the name Jesus from the Father.

The Holy Spirit comes in the name of Jesus.

Jews, Gentiles, and Samaritans were all baptized in Jesus' name.

Jesus is at the right hand of God.

God's right hand represents power, wisdom, and salvation.

Jesus said all power is given to Him in heaven and earth.

There is one throne in heaven, and one who sits on that throne, which is the throne of God and the Lamb, God in the glorified body of the man Christ Jesus.

There is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.

David said, the LORD said unto my Lord, sit at my right hand until I make your enemies your footstool.

Which the Son must reign until His enemies are conquered, and then the Son shall submit to the Father that God may be all in all.

God exalted the man Christ Jesus to exercise the throne of power, be at His right hand, until His enemies are conquered, and then the Son will cease being at the right hand that God may be all in all.

The only person we will see in heaven is Jesus, and if you have seen Him you have seen the Father.

Let us make man in our image.

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God, and without Him was not any thing made that was made.

In the beginning was the plan of God to come in the future in flesh, and that plan was with God before He laid down the foundation of the world, and that plan was God manifest in flesh, and without that plan God would of not created anything that He created, for Jesus is the reason creation is successful, eternal life, and to judge the angels and people.

Which Jesus is the beginning of creation although He was not born until 4000 years later.

Adam was made in the image of God.

Adam was made in the figure of Him to come who is Jesus.

The image of God is the image of Christ.

God had the plan to come in the future in flesh before He started creation, and created Adam in that image.

Let us God and the man Christ Jesus make man in the image we will appear in the future.

For the let us make man in our image has to include the man Christ Jesus for He is part of that image.

1 Co 8:6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him.

Eph 4:6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

The Bible says one God, the Father.

John 1:1, 14 says that that the Word is God and that the Word became flesh and dwelt among us.

John 8:58 Jesus refers to himself as the I Am, a reference to Exodus when God identified himself as the I Am.

In John 10:30-33 Jesus stated "I am my Father are one." To which the Jews present picked up stones to kill him with because they understood that to mean he was saying he is literally God. They thought he was committing blasphemy.

The Bible does refer to Jesus as literally God in the flesh. Father, Son, and Holy Spirit - all are God. That's what I believe.

 

[p_rehbein]

HOLY TRINITY:

God the Father: God OF man

God the Son: God AS man

God the Holy Spirit: God WITHIN man

pretty simple if folks will do as Christ said...........

"ONLY BELIEVE"

but that's the catch huh? lots n lots of folks just won't believe.....sad, truly sad

 

[Prycejosh1987]

*There aren't 3 Gods - rather, there is just ONE TRUE GOD, but having parts to himself. We also as humans - have parts to ourselves too - body, soul and spirit.

That is the best definition of Gods nature, Its the closest thing to understanding the trinity. I dont believe God made things complicated when he designed his word.
God the father is the soul, Jesus is the body, and the holy spirit is the spirit. It suggests to me that the holy spirit is the most dominant out of the three, at the same time the most elusive. The holy spirit takes on different forms and he holds everything together, and i cannot wait to meet him.