Calvinist Kitchen...stirring the pot

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
Status
Not open for further replies.
May 31, 2020
1,706
1,559
113
Jesus literally while dying on the cross stated... Father forgive them they know not what they do.
It’s difficult for calvinists to look at Christ while embracing their godless vanity, which happens to be all the time.
 

oyster67

Senior Member
May 24, 2014
11,887
8,705
113
To all out there who are not yet saved; you CAN come to Jesus. You are not predestined to go into the Pit. Just surrender your all to Him today.

Good night everybody.:sleep:
 
E

eternally-gratefull

Guest
No worries, I knew something was not in line.

I just wanted to know what @PennEd thought about the God hates people post.
Over and done now movin on...
Oh ok now that makes sense i missed it sorry forgive me
 
E

eternally-gratefull

Guest
One of the disadvantages of the IGNORE feature. ;)

I don't use it.

I rather exercise power over my flesh to resist inflammatory posts and ignore them with my free will to do so. :)
Some people just lose the right to be fed.
 
Jan 25, 2015
9,222
3,201
113
"Everywhere in the Bible, it talks about God loving us, it is referring to the redeemed, those who have some into the family of God, not a general statement towards the unsaved person."

https://reformed.online/god-hates-sinners/
God is love and not capable of hate. He even love the unsaved but because they are out of covenant they cannot enter relationship with the King. It is our choice.

No predestination.
 
Dec 12, 2013
46,515
20,402
113
Coming to the knowledge of the Truth (Jesus Christ’s death for sin debt, and resurrection) does not equate to Salvation.

That was the dude’s in Hebrews 10 giant error. They had the knowledge but not the Truth (Jesus).
Yeah....I disagree...the context of the verse is salvation....end of story!

Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

AND is clear, the knowledge of the truth is tied directly to salvation and this verse refutes one of the false tenants of calvinism!
 

Magenta

Senior Member
Jul 3, 2015
60,345
29,593
113
Yeah....I disagree...the context of the verse is salvation....end of story!

Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

AND is clear, the knowledge of the truth is tied directly to salvation and this verse refutes one of the false tenants of calvinism!


1 Timothy 2:1-4 :)
 

PennEd

Senior Member
Apr 22, 2013
13,590
9,107
113
Yeah....I disagree...the context of the verse is salvation....end of story!

Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

AND is clear, the knowledge of the truth is tied directly to salvation and this verse refutes one of the false tenants of calvinism!
Well .... I disagree with your rendering.

So there you are.
 
E

EleventhHour

Guest
All means All
Joshua 6:3 says, “. . . all ye men of war.”
Psalm 31:23 says, “. . . all ye his saints.”
Psalm 31:24 says, “. . . all ye that hope in the LORD.”
Psalm 32:11 says, “. . . all ye that are upright in heart.”
Psalm 134:1 says, “. . . all ye servants of the LORD.”
Luke 13:27 says, “. . . all ye workers of iniquity.”
Romans 5:12 says, “. . . all have sinned.”
Galatians 3:8 says, “. . . all nations be blessed.”
Revelation 19:5 says, “. . . all ye his servants, and ye that fear him.”​
 
Mar 28, 2016
15,954
1,528
113
Yeah....I disagree...the context of the verse is salvation....end of story!

Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

AND is clear, the knowledge of the truth is tied directly to salvation and this verse refutes one of the false tenants of calvinism!
Knowledge is not salvation it leads to it.

But many crucify Christ over and over. Having tasted of the knowledge experrnced it working and walked away. Like the disciples in John (no faith). The evil generation that seeks after a self edifying sign .

Hebrew6:4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,
If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.


Better things accompany salvation. like God promises us He will not forget the good works we offer toward his name . No self edification needed . we continue to walk by faith

Hebrew6:9-11 But, beloved, we are persuaded better things of you, and things that accompany salvation, though we thus speak. For God is not unrighteous to forget your work and labour of love, which ye have shewed toward his name, in that ye have ministered to the saints, and do minister. And we desire that every one of you do shew the same diligence to the full assurance of hope unto the end:
 
Status
Not open for further replies.