ANGELS DO NOT HAVE FLESHLY BODIES
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Angels are spiritual beings, and never had fleshy bodies, and did not transform from one type of body to another type of body like people will do when they put off the flesh, and put on a glorified body.
Heb 13:2 Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares.
If anybody sees an angel the angel will be in a physical image of the angel.
Angels are one being with no components like a human who is flesh and soul.
Because of that the angels that sinned cannot be redeemed for when they sin they tainted their whole being with no way to put off the sin.
But in the flesh dwells no good thing for all sin resides in the flesh, so a person can put off the flesh, and preserve the soul to live on forever.
Heb 13:2 Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares.
If anybody sees an angel the angel will be in a physical image of the angel.
Angels are one being with no components like a human who is flesh and soul.
Because of that the angels that sinned cannot be redeemed for when they sin they tainted their whole being with no way to put off the sin.
But in the flesh dwells no good thing for all sin resides in the flesh, so a person can put off the flesh, and preserve the soul to live on forever.
Yes he sent three messengers as apostles. First three and then two to Sodom. Two represent the one witness of God .(the law and the prophets)
Angel are messengers of the gospel as apostles(sent ones) Those that bring the thoughts of God as it is written .
The Lord who has no form spoke through the men send .Those who apposed the gospel desired to walk after the flesh and have sex with men .Can't have literal sex with a spirit. any more than one could be bound with a literal chain .We walk by faith not after what the eyes see the temporal .
Angel are messengers of the gospel as apostles(sent ones) Those that bring the thoughts of God as it is written .
The Lord who has no form spoke through the men send .Those who apposed the gospel desired to walk after the flesh and have sex with men .Can't have literal sex with a spirit. any more than one could be bound with a literal chain .We walk by faith not after what the eyes see the temporal .
This isn’t an intellectual response- but seemed appropriate to share. In Sunday school while teaching the 2-3 year olds we had cardboard Christmas angels that were covered in cloth but had a leg or arm or belly button showing (like baby cherubs). My 2 year old daughter said “that’s not real angel” and we responded with “well no it’s a drawing” and she responded “angels don’t have belly buttons cause they aren’t born” and we adults just looked at each other.
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Thank you for giving some of the work angels do for us. They live in another dimension and we are not able to comprehend completely what that dimension is like, but it is important to know what they are doing for us.
The Lord opened Elisha's eyes so he could see angels, once and scripture says this about it: 2 Kings 6:17 Then Elisha prayed, “O LORD, please open his eyes that he may see.” And the LORD opened the eyes of the young man, and he saw that the hills were full of horses and chariots of fire all around Elisha.
These are the Seraphim or Burning Ones. They race back and forth between heaven and earth doing God's will. We are given free choice, we are freely given the opportunity to allow them to do the will of God and choose not to let them do it.
The Lord opened Elisha's eyes so he could see angels, once and scripture says this about it: 2 Kings 6:17 Then Elisha prayed, “O LORD, please open his eyes that he may see.” And the LORD opened the eyes of the young man, and he saw that the hills were full of horses and chariots of fire all around Elisha.
These are the Seraphim or Burning Ones. They race back and forth between heaven and earth doing God's will. We are given free choice, we are freely given the opportunity to allow them to do the will of God and choose not to let them do it.
We are given power do do His will not opportunity.
Philippians 2:13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.
Yes, our Father in heaven did open the minds eye, the eye of faith as a vision seen by fleshly minds. Like Elisha.
I am not sure about Seraphim or Burning Ones? They could represent the letter of the law the messenger of death as a fiery judgment or the fire of purification. Context should guide a person.
The word of God is a messenger that works in our earthen bodies (the power of God) .Just as with the Son of man Jesus a prophet and apostle sent with words from the Father.. He was given words to declare his own flesh profits for Zero.
Jesus did not do the will of the flesh.
Philippians 2:13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.
Yes, our Father in heaven did open the minds eye, the eye of faith as a vision seen by fleshly minds. Like Elisha.
I am not sure about Seraphim or Burning Ones? They could represent the letter of the law the messenger of death as a fiery judgment or the fire of purification. Context should guide a person.
The word of God is a messenger that works in our earthen bodies (the power of God) .Just as with the Son of man Jesus a prophet and apostle sent with words from the Father.. He was given words to declare his own flesh profits for Zero.
Jesus did not do the will of the flesh.
Have you noticed only Holy angels are known to do this?
I think if the power to materialize in human form were inherent to created spiritual beings there would be accounts of the fallen spirits using it to cause division in human affairs. I think when humans are really holy angels it is necessary to convey the message God has tasked them with. If so, then God provides the material form His message requires.
I think if the power to materialize in human form were inherent to created spiritual beings there would be accounts of the fallen spirits using it to cause division in human affairs. I think when humans are really holy angels it is necessary to convey the message God has tasked them with. If so, then God provides the material form His message requires.
I agree pretty much, however you state Angels race back and forth between earth and heaven?
You mention Angels are in another dimension?
You mention Elijah had Angels encamped around him, others couldnt see?
Perhaps Angels are around us, and we are unaware, we need to open our spiritual eyes?
Hebrews 13:2KJV
2 Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares.
You mention Angels are in another dimension?
You mention Elijah had Angels encamped around him, others couldnt see?
Perhaps Angels are around us, and we are unaware, we need to open our spiritual eyes?
Hebrews 13:2KJV
2 Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares.
Hi Diakonos!
Just fyi, their 'natural abode' is in reference to heaven, not their spiritual form. The Nephilim were the result of those angels being intimate with human women and they giving birth to those would who would become giants. These Nephilim were killed in the flood along with the rest of mankind who had been corrupted by all that the angels had taught them. The angels themselves were cast down into a place under the earth called Tartaroo/Tartartus where they will be released to stand at the great white throne judgment.
"For if God did not spare the angels when they sinned, but cast them deep into hell (tartartus), placing them in chains of darkness to be held for judgment."
Just fyi, their 'natural abode' is in reference to heaven, not their spiritual form. The Nephilim were the result of those angels being intimate with human women and they giving birth to those would who would become giants. These Nephilim were killed in the flood along with the rest of mankind who had been corrupted by all that the angels had taught them. The angels themselves were cast down into a place under the earth called Tartaroo/Tartartus where they will be released to stand at the great white throne judgment.
"For if God did not spare the angels when they sinned, but cast them deep into hell (tartartus), placing them in chains of darkness to be held for judgment."
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"Ye Do Err, Not Knowing The Scriptures"
Chuck Missler is dead, and so is his "False Teaching" of the Nephilim
Angels don't have human sperm for procreation, and they don't marry, let alone run around fornicating.
Angels having sexual relations with humans, is found in Greek Mythology.
Matthew 22:29-30KJV
29 Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.
30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.
God has placed the act of having sexual relationship withing the confine of marriage, "One Flesh"
Genesis 2:24-25KJV
24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.
25 And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.
Chuck Missler is dead, and so is his "False Teaching" of the Nephilim
Angels don't have human sperm for procreation, and they don't marry, let alone run around fornicating.
Angels having sexual relations with humans, is found in Greek Mythology.
Matthew 22:29-30KJV
29 Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.
30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.
God has placed the act of having sexual relationship withing the confine of marriage, "One Flesh"
Genesis 2:24-25KJV
24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.
25 And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.
Good day, Benadam!
There is indeed is an account of those fallen spirits who defiled themselves and corrupted mankind, found in the prophecies of Enoch and which was the major reason for the flood.
"Now Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied about these men also, saying, “Behold, the Lord comes with ten thousands of His saints, to execute judgment on all, to convict all who are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have committed in an ungodly way, and of all the harsh things which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him.”
The angels who sinned by taking wives from the progeny of men: (An excerpt from Enoch)
It happened after the sons of men had multiplied in those days that daughters were born to them, elegant and beautiful. (see Genesis 6:1-2)
And when the angels, the sons of heaven, beheld them, they became enarmored of them, saying to each other: Come, let us select for ourselves wives from the progeny of men and let us beget children.
Then their leader Samyaza said to them; I fear that you may perhaps be indisposed to the performance of this enterprise;
and that I alone shall suffer for so grievous a crime.
But they answered him and said: We all swear; and bind ourselves by mutual execrations, that we will not change our intension, but execute our projected undertaking.
They all swore together, and all bound themselves by mutual excrations. There whole number was two hundred, who descended upon Ardis, which is the tope of Mount Armon.
That mountain, therefore, they called Armon, because they had sworn upon it and bound themselves by mutual execrations.
These are the names of their chiefs: Samyaza, who was their leader, Urakabarameel, Akibeel, Tamiel, Ramuel, Danel, Azkeel, sarakuyal, Asael, Batraal, Anane, Zavebe, Samsaveel, Ertael, Turel, Yomyael, Arazyal. These were the prefects of the two hunder angesl, and the remainder were all with them.
Then they took wives, each choosing for himself; whom they began to approach and with whom they cohabited; teaching them sorcery, incantation and the dividing of roots and trees.
And they conceiving brought forth giants (Gen.6:4-6) whose stature was each three hundred cubits. These devoured all which the labor of men produced; until it became impossible to feed them;
When they turned themselves agains men, in order to devour them; and began to injure birds, beasts, reptiles and fishes, to eat their flesh one after another and to drink their blood.
Then the earth reproved the unrighteousness.
There is indeed is an account of those fallen spirits who defiled themselves and corrupted mankind, found in the prophecies of Enoch and which was the major reason for the flood.
"Now Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied about these men also, saying, “Behold, the Lord comes with ten thousands of His saints, to execute judgment on all, to convict all who are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have committed in an ungodly way, and of all the harsh things which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him.”
The angels who sinned by taking wives from the progeny of men: (An excerpt from Enoch)
It happened after the sons of men had multiplied in those days that daughters were born to them, elegant and beautiful. (see Genesis 6:1-2)
And when the angels, the sons of heaven, beheld them, they became enarmored of them, saying to each other: Come, let us select for ourselves wives from the progeny of men and let us beget children.
Then their leader Samyaza said to them; I fear that you may perhaps be indisposed to the performance of this enterprise;
and that I alone shall suffer for so grievous a crime.
But they answered him and said: We all swear; and bind ourselves by mutual execrations, that we will not change our intension, but execute our projected undertaking.
They all swore together, and all bound themselves by mutual excrations. There whole number was two hundred, who descended upon Ardis, which is the tope of Mount Armon.
That mountain, therefore, they called Armon, because they had sworn upon it and bound themselves by mutual execrations.
These are the names of their chiefs: Samyaza, who was their leader, Urakabarameel, Akibeel, Tamiel, Ramuel, Danel, Azkeel, sarakuyal, Asael, Batraal, Anane, Zavebe, Samsaveel, Ertael, Turel, Yomyael, Arazyal. These were the prefects of the two hunder angesl, and the remainder were all with them.
Then they took wives, each choosing for himself; whom they began to approach and with whom they cohabited; teaching them sorcery, incantation and the dividing of roots and trees.
And they conceiving brought forth giants (Gen.6:4-6) whose stature was each three hundred cubits. These devoured all which the labor of men produced; until it became impossible to feed them;
When they turned themselves agains men, in order to devour them; and began to injure birds, beasts, reptiles and fishes, to eat their flesh one after another and to drink their blood.
Then the earth reproved the unrighteousness.
God does not depend on Greek mythology. If angels can take human form (and they are all invariably male) what makes you so sure that angels cannot cohabit with human women and produce unusual offspring?
Indeed the Bible says that they did. And the Bible also says that because of this transgression they are now imprisoned in Tartarus.
GENESIS 6: IN THE OLD TESTAMENT "SONS OF GOD" = ANGELS
1 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,
2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
3 And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
4 There were giants [Heb nephilim] in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they barechildren to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
THE "ANGELS THAT SINNED" ARE IN TARTARUS (incorrectly called "hell")
For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to [Tartarus], and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment; And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly... (2 Pet 2:4,5)
THE ANGELS "WHICH KEPT NOT THEIR FIRST ESTATE" (FORNICATION)
And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day. Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. (Jude 1:6,7)
[Note: "even as" in verse 7 compares "going after strange flesh" in Sodom and Gomorrha to the same transgression by angels in verse 6]
Tartarus is not the same as Sheol/Hades, which is not the same as Gehenna. Yet for some inexplicable reason, the KJV translators used the same English word "hell" instead of simply transliterating.
Indeed the Bible says that they did. And the Bible also says that because of this transgression they are now imprisoned in Tartarus.
GENESIS 6: IN THE OLD TESTAMENT "SONS OF GOD" = ANGELS
1 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,
2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
3 And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
4 There were giants [Heb nephilim] in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they barechildren to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
THE "ANGELS THAT SINNED" ARE IN TARTARUS (incorrectly called "hell")
For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to [Tartarus], and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment; And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly... (2 Pet 2:4,5)
THE ANGELS "WHICH KEPT NOT THEIR FIRST ESTATE" (FORNICATION)
And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day. Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. (Jude 1:6,7)
[Note: "even as" in verse 7 compares "going after strange flesh" in Sodom and Gomorrha to the same transgression by angels in verse 6]
Tartarus is not the same as Sheol/Hades, which is not the same as Gehenna. Yet for some inexplicable reason, the KJV translators used the same English word "hell" instead of simply transliterating.
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"The Sons Of God" seen in Genesis 1:2 were human men, as the scripture "Clearly" defines this.
The Sons of God Were Human Men, they married human wives and had human children, stop the bending and twisting of God's truth.
John 1:12KJV
12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name
Romans 8:14KJV
14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
1 John 3:1KJV
Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.
Genesis 6:1-7KJV
6 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,
2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
3 And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
6 And it repented the Lord that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.
7 And the Lord said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.
The Sons of God Were Human Men, they married human wives and had human children, stop the bending and twisting of God's truth.
John 1:12KJV
12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name
Romans 8:14KJV
14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
1 John 3:1KJV
Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.
Genesis 6:1-7KJV
6 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,
2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
3 And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
6 And it repented the Lord that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.
7 And the Lord said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.
Angels don't marry or have human sperm for procreation.
You espouse "Greek Mythology"
The Sons of God Were Human Men, they married human wives and had human children, stop the bending and twisting of God's truth.
John 1:12KJV
12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name
Romans 8:14KJV
14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
1 John 3:1KJV
Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.
God Was Striving With Man (Flesh), Not Angels
Genesis 6:1-7KJV
6 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,
2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
3 And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
6 And it repented the Lord that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.
7 And the Lord said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.
You espouse "Greek Mythology"
The Sons of God Were Human Men, they married human wives and had human children, stop the bending and twisting of God's truth.
John 1:12KJV
12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name
Romans 8:14KJV
14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
1 John 3:1KJV
Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.
God Was Striving With Man (Flesh), Not Angels
Genesis 6:1-7KJV
6 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,
2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
3 And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
6 And it repented the Lord that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.
7 And the Lord said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.
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Fallen Angels (Devil's) don't procreate with humans, you suggest the false teachings found in (Greek Mythology)
Devil's are spirit beings, that could inhabit fleshly bodies, humans, swine, etc.
Luke 8:2KJV
2 And certain women, which had been healed of evil spirits and infirmities, Mary called Magdalene, out of whom went seven devils,
Luke 8:30-33KJV
30 And Jesus asked him, saying, What is thy name? And he said, Legion: because many devils were entered into him.
31 And they besought him that he would not command them to go out into the deep.
32 And there was there an herd of many swine feeding on the mountain: and they besought him that he would suffer them to enter into them. And he suffered them.
33 Then went the devils out of the man, and entered into the swine: and the herd ran violently down a steep place into the lake, and were choked.
Devil's are spirit beings, that could inhabit fleshly bodies, humans, swine, etc.
Luke 8:2KJV
2 And certain women, which had been healed of evil spirits and infirmities, Mary called Magdalene, out of whom went seven devils,
Luke 8:30-33KJV
30 And Jesus asked him, saying, What is thy name? And he said, Legion: because many devils were entered into him.
31 And they besought him that he would not command them to go out into the deep.
32 And there was there an herd of many swine feeding on the mountain: and they besought him that he would suffer them to enter into them. And he suffered them.
33 Then went the devils out of the man, and entered into the swine: and the herd ran violently down a steep place into the lake, and were choked.
