Trump Outsmarts them again

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cv5

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alright here goes:

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0820-9

after you read this please point me to whatever source tells you the conspiracy conclusion is "inescapable"

*do you have pubmed access? there are a lot of very information-dense papers cited by the brief paper i linked. they're worth looking into if you're serious about the topic.
My research is been concluded. My sources are unimpeachable. I am finished with my research on the matter.
 
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kaylagrl

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i am laughing because all y'alls conservative-biased radio interwebz & tv outlets -- that's mainstream media too. FOX & co, who originally brought us the "beware mainstream media" paranoia© ((trust no one but us plz)), is ironically the biggest, most mainstream media outlet in the country.

the fact that you now even use an anagram "msm" for it, like it's become a universally recognized thing that needs no more than shorthand abbreviation, is hilariously tragic.


Yeah I knew you'd bust my chops because it was Shapiro, a non-Liberal Jew. But here's the deal, I can't post anything from the rest of MSM because none of them have tried to shame protesters/rioters for being out in the streets en masse. But they have carried on about how Christians going to church was killin' grandma. I'd post that unbiased story from CNN if it were out there to be found, it ain't.
 

cv5

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you won't find the evidence that this virus does not have the markers of purposeful genetic manipulation on the mainstream media outlets with the bias you favor. and if i post it, you'll ignore it, saying the sources are MSM with the wrong bias.

but my point is that other viruses & plagues have similarly irreducible complexity in their structure.
if the irreducible complexity is the argument you are resting on to call this bio-engineered ((which i assume it is because that's the narrative of the hyper-partisan conservative MSM that is constantly parroted & posted in this forum)), then that argument ought to be equally applied to all other viruses, such as the bubonic plague, else our conspiracy theories are shown to be equally bias in their application.

i hear the lizard people have been on earth for quite a long time. quite the insidious lot
In case you haven't noticed, humans have been bioengineering for quite sometime. Dogs, cats horses, corn, wheat, grapes, apples, sheep cattle.

Did we do all of that or did your Illuminati lizard people do it?
 

Billyd

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EleventhHour

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My research is been concluded. My sources are unimpeachable. I am finished with my research on the matter.
What sources would those be, curious?
 

Billyd

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I believe that the dems are playing President Trump like a fine fiddle. Unless he gets off the soap box and gets control of his verbal reactions, we will have a ultra liberal president this time next year. Biden won't last six months. Remember, a vote for Biden, is actually a vote for his VP selection, and the dem party knows that.
 

cv5

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I believe that the dems are playing President Trump like a fine fiddle. Unless he gets off the soap box and gets control of his verbal reactions, we will have a ultra liberal president this time next year. Biden won't last six months. Remember, a vote for Biden, is actually a vote for his VP selection, and the dem party knows that.
Correct. But if Biden selects a hyper radical, It's not going to help his chances at the polls.

We had better get on our knees and pray like never before for Trump victory. The radical DEM Commies will destroy the Republic and throw Israel to the wolves. WW3 is guaranteed, as Israel will be forced to go to war against Iran.
 

Billyd

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Correct. But if Biden selects a hyper radical, It's not going to help his chances at the polls.

We had better get on our knees and pray like never before for Trump victory. The radical DEM Commies will destroy the Republic and throw Israel to the wolves. WW3 is guaranteed, as Israel will be forced to go to war against Iran.
AOC and her squad of four won't help him, but there are about a half dozen extreme liberals that will attract a large portion of the women voters.

I'm not praying for a Trump victory, I'm praying for God to restore our country and give us His man/woman to lead our country. When the election is over, I'll be praying for the victor and unity of our brothers and sisters of our country.
 

cv5

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i am laughing because all y'alls conservative-biased radio interwebz & tv outlets -- that's mainstream media too. FOX & co, who originally brought us the "beware mainstream media" paranoia© ((trust no one but us plz)), is ironically the biggest, most mainstream media outlet in the country.

the fact that you now even use an anagram "msm" for it, like it's become a universally recognized thing that needs no more than shorthand abbreviation, is hilariously tragic.

the successful propaganda machine is the one that you become convinced is the only information source which isn't propaganda.
When speaking to the CNN anchors, I am talking about their radical LIFESTYLES.
This for their message they are simply parrots and puppets to their paymasters.
 

cv5

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ah so the Chinese communist liberal lizard illuminati were cleverly trying to destroy good Christian white repubicans even then. interesting.

:ROFL:
Speaking of Chinese communists......
Here is your beloved Marxist regime In all of its repulsiveness.

Chinese Ambassador Struggles To Explain Shocking Footage Of Handcuffed & Blindfolded Uighurs Loaded Onto Train

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/chinese-ambassador-struggles-explain-shocking-footage-handcuffed-blindfolded-uighurs

Labor camps gulags and organ harvesting. All big business in communist China.

If you vote Democrat this is coming to a USA near you.

It's interesting to note that there are no Arab or Muslim nations that are complaining about these gulag labor camps. This of course because Muslim national leaders could care less about their own people. They are far more interested in power and money. As long as the little people keep breeding they are perfectly happy.
 

posthuman

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Absolute rubbish. To conclude that a virus that has been engineered in the lab has not been engineered in the lab because you demonize the supposed source of the evidence which itself is of your own choosing betrays your own bias.
i didn't make an argument or state a conclusion.
i mentioned the fact that the political-right-bias sector of the MSM broadcasts the argument that irreducible complexity is evidence that this virus was lab-grown. i pointed out that irreducible complexity is an argument for a Creator -- because as Christians we should recognize that all things have been made by God, so that this political-right-bias MSM narrative ought to fall flat in our ears. we should expect irreducible complexity in every naturally occurring organism; such things are not evidence of it being of human origin.


Furthermore, viruses ARE INDEED being engineered and weaponized and have been for decaded. And it is perfectly feasible to conduct a forensic analysis and determine whether or not these viruses are engineered.
yeah i linked you a paper doing exactly that. their conclusion: COVID-19 appears to be naturally occurring, not synthetic.
the argument that "some things are synthetic, therefore this is synthetic" is just as stupid as "this has irreducible complexity therefore it must have been man, not God, who created it." we shouldn't use either.


Your arguments are falling apart buddy. Probably because of your biase toward the Democratic fringe radicals, who are part and parcel of the satanic end-time scenario. There is zero evidence that staunch mainline Democrats are at all religious or biblical in their understanding or perspective. In fact the Democrats are brazenly and notably anti-biblical anti-Christian.
i had not even presented an argument for or against at all at the time of posting the post you were replying to. i have been arguing against all worldly partisanship, and suggesting that scientific data being filtered through partisan political entities is not smart.

so here we have you calling me a satanic radical, anti-Biblical and anti-Christian, proclaiming by fiat that arguments i had not even made are falling apart. because i am telling you the truth, you're ascribing to me all the things the worldly-political-right MSM accuses the worldly-political-left MSM of.
brother do you not see how that you are walking in worldly partisanship, not light? our citizenship is in heaven, not on earth. we have to respect the authorities God has put in place and to be able to see them without the filters that all this carnal politicking - from both sides - shoves on us. the pharisees were even more evil than the pagans: the falsely religious more wicked than the hedonists, but Christ was not arguing for atheism when He condemned the teachers of the law any more than i am arguing for the left by pointing out hypocrisy on the right. so why do you bring this up, and why do you throw this mud at me? is it not because you are engaging in it yourself?
 

posthuman

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My research is been concluded. My sources are unimpeachable. I am finished with my research on the matter.
yeah typical.

no you will not even look at actual facts.
no you will not share your sources or justify your arguments.
because you're impeccable. you are expert.

i am supposed to just follow you because you say so. anyone who doesn't is MSM.

w/e


this is the part where i cry, because of how ugly what the world does to the little sheep is.
 

posthuman

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Take a little time and scan through the document below. It is the raw data, along with a summary of the data, collected for each county of Florida, by the Florida Department of health. The data is updated around noon daily. See the web page link.

http://ww11.doh.state.fl.us/comm/_partners/covid19_report_archive/county_reports_latest.pdf

https://floridahealthcovid19.gov/

i notice it lists "cases"
not "
number of positive test results"

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sherryt

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WOW...… It seems the Covid-19 appears to have brought the worse out in us. How about we give more thought to continual prayer for God to heal our nation and, if led - fasting whenever possible. Just some thoughts.
 

cv5

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yeah typical.

no you will not even look at actual facts.
no you will not share your sources or justify your arguments.
because you're impeccable. you are expert.


i am supposed to just follow you because you say so. anyone who doesn't is MSM.

w/e

this is the part where i cry, because of how ugly what the world does to the little sheep is.
You are the dumbest smart guy that I have ever known. Facts are facts and truth is truth. Based on the overwhelming evidence it occurs to me that this virus is bioengineered and had its point of origin in the Wuhan lab. The detective work in finding Patient Zero, the clear testimony of multiple witnesses who have come forward, the forensic technical analysis, and the analysis of many astute experts makes this clear.

You seem to believe your own theory that's fine. But I am certainly not going to back down on mine.

And your bizarre sense of humor escapes me completely. Perhaps it is betraying your frustration in this matter who knows.

As for justifying my arguments I have neither the time nor the inclination to do so this is not a peer review group. I did all the heavy lifting at hard-work and I have reaped the fruits of truth thereof. You can gather your own manna.
 

Mii

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Well I learned what MSM means in this thread lol

For some reason I thought it was referring to MSNBC or MSN but the distinction between those two is unclear.


A book on news outlets would be pretty nice. What makes a good article and what doesn't.


If I were a professor I might break down a peer-reviewed journal but I would expect someone to read it before proceeding to discuss the issue. I'm not suggesting that any of you don't do that necessarily (nor do you have to) but I just know from personal experience that my "research" is incredibly lazy. I have found a lot of "thought threads" and confirmed them (as well as may be based on stats) but can anyone else admit to being somewhat lazy in their research?

Of course sourcing is important. I do however think the scientific method is not anti-christian and therefore should probably be employed with rigidity and for some reason it seems to not be even by scientists. This alone is troubling. What is more troubling is that people just expect to be "trusted" because they are an "expert". When a theory + loose data doesn't stand up to the scientific method it should be basic form to simply be entirely suspicious.

Again, I am not suggesting any of you here do this, but by and large it seems to be the norm and that's confusing. The method is pretty reliable but alas, it requires effort and is sort of set-up against laziness in "time based" scenarios.
 
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kaylagrl

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dailywire is also an MSM outlet with profoundly obvious hyper-conservative bias.

so i'm laughing at you, too.

((until later when i cry about all this again))

A liberal laughing at anything has never bothered me ;) I'm talking conservative MSM versus liberal. Bias is the point. The LIBERAL MSM had no issue with protesters and riots in the streets but were pearl clutching when those crazy idiot Christians were going to kill everyone by going to church. If you don't see that as bias you're willfully blind an as biased as you claim others to be.
 

Truth7t7

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I heard a report on the news last night that a man in Ohio has his mother in hospital. They have tested her 15 times for COVID an will not allow her to leave the hospital. That counts as 15 cases of COVID. One person, 15 cases. Anyone awake yet?
That's correct, the COVID19 infection record and mortality rate is a complete sham, fake numbers applied everywhere. I have read that real numbers could be 50% of what is presented.

New York Governor Cuomo was sending infected elderly directly from hospitals into Convalescent hospitals, infecting the vulnerable elderly, thousands of deaths attributed to his actions, thousands!

Yes the Javits Center constructed by the Army Corps, that was staffed with Doctors and Nurses sat empty?

Yes the Navy's hospital ship sat empty also

Thousands of beds available to the infected elderly in New York, and Andrew Cuomo "MANDATED" they go to Convalescent hospitals and retirement homes?

Cuomo needs to be prosecuted, and spend the rest of his life in jail, a Criminal!

Society sits "Silent" on these facts, Cuomo is directly guilty if murdering the elderly, and he's getting away with it, before the world watching.
 
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QUESTIONS:
1. Why did Mr. Trump wait until July when the CDC was already complicit in falsifying data and information from January 2020? That is seven months of bogus data under the Trump administration.


2. Why did Mr. Trump fail to fire Redfied, Fauci, and Birx, etc. in March and replace them on his Task Force with Carson and Zelenko (possibly others who had used HCQ with excellent results)?

3. After successfully using HCQ [possibly combined with erythromycin (azithromycin?) and zinc sulfate according to Zelenko] why did Trump fail to address the nation from the Oval Office and assure the public that this package would be freely available to all citizens as an over-the-counter preventative for COVID-19?

4. Why did Mr. Trump fail to issue an Executive Order over-riding all state governors and city mayors (as well as all hospital personnel) and demand that all restrictions on HCQ be removed immediately?

5. Why did Mr. Trump fail to expose the Remdesivir Conspiracy (involving Fauci and Gilead) which promoted an EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE and moderately effective treatment and attacked an EXTREMELY CHEAP and extremely effective treatment with HCQ?

6. Why did the Trump administration approve a 1.6 billion dollar contract for Remdesivir (at over $3,000 a treatment) when HCQ should have been promoted from the White House, and the Gilead Sciences contract rejected?

7. Why did Trump fail to shut down all the nonsense about lock downs, social distancing, masking etc, on June 1, 2020, after the rioters ignored all of that to create anarchy in America? Why was there no comprehensive Executive Order from January to cover every aspect of the pandemic and its use against America, and when the precautions would be removed?

Note: I initially believed that Donald Trump sincerely wanted to drain the Swamp as stated in his campaigning. But actions speak louder than words. By putting Redfield, Fauci, and Birx on his Task Force, and refusing to fire them all after they were exposed as frauds, Trump has become an accessory to their conspiracy to take down America and make billions from Remdesivir (as well as the worthless vaccine that is now being touted).
A lot of people do not want to believe it but Republicans and Democrats are actually working together.

It is the Hegel System where they set up 2 opposing forces, for it gets everyone involved for they will choose a side, and then the 2 forces put aside their differences and become one, and it brings all the people together as one.

On the back of the dollar bill, announcing the conception of a new order of the ages, and out of many, one.

Republican and Democrat to cover the beliefs of the people, and the nation to cover the beliefs of the world, and then bring them all together.

After WW1, League of Nations, after WW2, United Nations, United Religions, which the nations leaders work together for a peace plan for the world, and they have been working together for quite a while, and leaders leave and new leaders take their place that can be influenced, and have different beliefs, so eventually all the nations leaders will be in agreement for how the world should operate.

United Nations Agenda 21, 1992, 179 nations agreed to it, sustainability act, ban the police, and communities work together with social programs, and everybody works together against crime, but at that time there will be no guns.

Agenda 21 sustainability act- ecology, economy, social.

Ecology- harmony between nature and people to take all people out of the rural areas, and place them in the cities, and no development can happen outside city limits.

Everybody equal economically.

Everybody equal social status wise.

On the BLM website they talk of sustainability, ban the police, communities work together, and other things of Agenda 21.

They are pushing Agenda 21 through the BLM movement, which is the start of it, for the nations leaders now want to come together.

President Trump is part of the plan along with Barack Obama, and the Democrats, but he is playing his role of the opposing force.

Because this plan will never work being one sided, so they catered to everyone in their beliefs, opinions, religions, ethic groups, so they can bring them all together as one.

And the more the 2 parties fight with each other, and are at each other's throats the closer it is to the nations coming together, and Trump is the man for the job of Republican President to be obnoxious, aggressive, and bold.

For their aggression will rile up the people to fight with each other over Right Wing and Left Wing, and get violent with each other to add chaos to the boiling pot, along with protests, and riots, and the coronavirus, as well as other pandemics to plague the world, driving them to come together for peace, and collapsing the economies of the developed nations, and have them crying for their needs to be met which then they are easier to control.