This Corona virus pandemic could be the weapon that takes our liberties away , all in the name of saving lives?
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FYI On July 16, the country reported its latest single-day record with at least 77,255 new cases, according to Johns Hopkins University data. The second highest number was reported a day later: 71,558. Saturday's number: 63,698. (co CNN)
I had a amazing day today, and the reason was because I attended worship, it was a drive in service but many people left their cars and sat in lawn chairs, myself among them. On-line worship just doesn't work for me, I have been really missing the fellowship that comes from corporate worship.....and while the pastor spoke of the trying times and the anger many are feeling, his message was that there is nothing wrong with righteous anger....so long as it doesn't lead one to sin. And with the anger I've been having at the way things are going in the world....the sin I've been guilty of is that I haven't been intentional enough and diligent enough in my Christian walk....I haven't taken to lying, cheating and stealing or anything.....but I have to remember that Jesus is Lord, not me.
Blessings all.
Blessings all.
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So you'd rather be wrong, and have people think you're right, than be right, and have people think you're wrong? I'm the opposite. That's why I say there is no virus, and there is indeed no virus. If people want to bury their heads in the sand and believe their governments, that's up to them. They can't say they weren't warned, though. 
I skipped through it. It seems like a rambling dude, and lots of talk about antibodies. No proof of a virus, though. You do understand what proof is, right?
I skipped through it. It seems like a rambling dude, and lots of talk about antibodies. No proof of a virus, though. You do understand what proof is, right?
So you'd rather be wrong, and have people think you're right, than be right, and have people think you're wrong? I'm the opposite. That's why I say there is no virus, and there is indeed no virus. If people want to bury their heads in the sand and believe their governments, that's up to them. They can't say they weren't warned, though.
I skipped through it. It seems like a rambling dude, and lots of talk about antibodies. No proof of a virus, though. You do understand what proof is, right?
I skipped through it. It seems like a rambling dude, and lots of talk about antibodies. No proof of a virus, though. You do understand what proof is, right?
i can take someone to the georgia dept. of public health website, and show people where yesterday, there was about 500 cases of the virus, while the media is saying 3200. because of the contact tracing garbage. that is hard evidence, people respond to that.
so, i think now i will call my still sick friend and say " their is no virus".
i am sure that person will be all about that.
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I listened to about 3 quarters. He's assuming the virus, not proving it exists. The reason that there are no antibodies is that there is no virus. Simple.
Here's a brief document disproving the existence of viruses. Essentially, it shows that belief in viruses is all based on one scientific paper that failed to perform a control experiment. When the dead tissue decayed, they said "Aha! A virus is doing that." Had they performed a control experiment, they would have found that no virus was necessary - all tissues go through decomposition when dead.
http://davidicke.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/Paper-Virus-Lanka-002.pdf
In the attached, a reward was offered for a scientific paper proving the existence of the measles virus. No such paper offering this proof could be tendered, and in the court case that ensued, the legally appointed expert Professor Podbielski - arguing for the plaintiff that the measles virus had been proven - admitted that no such evidence existed in biology.
Here's a brief document disproving the existence of viruses. Essentially, it shows that belief in viruses is all based on one scientific paper that failed to perform a control experiment. When the dead tissue decayed, they said "Aha! A virus is doing that." Had they performed a control experiment, they would have found that no virus was necessary - all tissues go through decomposition when dead.
http://davidicke.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/Paper-Virus-Lanka-002.pdf
In the attached, a reward was offered for a scientific paper proving the existence of the measles virus. No such paper offering this proof could be tendered, and in the court case that ensued, the legally appointed expert Professor Podbielski - arguing for the plaintiff that the measles virus had been proven - admitted that no such evidence existed in biology.
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Turns out this is old news from back in June and maybe earlier, but it is new news to me. Today on the radio, people were reporting they'd gone for testing for Covid 19 at local test locations. But for some reason or other they left before they could be tested. Then, they got an SMS or something in their mail informing them they'd tested positive for Covid 19. When they had never been tested.
I think this is all furthering the narrative that intends to corrupt the November election. The Democrats want mail in ballots, which is the easiest form of fraud. If enough people can come up testing positive for Covid 19 the Left lawmakers can push again for the national ballot to be a mail in deal And this would let them get Biden in office.
When a dead cat received a voter registration form in the mail! A dead cat! Isn't that enough to put the kibosh on mail in voting as the means of voting in November?
Everyone knows cats are members of the green party.
I think this is all furthering the narrative that intends to corrupt the November election. The Democrats want mail in ballots, which is the easiest form of fraud. If enough people can come up testing positive for Covid 19 the Left lawmakers can push again for the national ballot to be a mail in deal And this would let them get Biden in office.
When a dead cat received a voter registration form in the mail! A dead cat! Isn't that enough to put the kibosh on mail in voting as the means of voting in November?
Everyone knows cats are members of the green party.
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I can't agree more that this is beyond crazy!!
Some thoughts I have about this particular situation...
Please look this up for yourself, or consult a medical doctor to confirm that this is true....
But, maybe this helps this type of classification of cause of death make sense in a more general way.
I work alongside a team who evaluates Covid patients on a daily basis for "treatment". This topic came up today. What was in question was if a motorcycle rider had Covid symptoms that severely impaired his driving. If he was extremely sick, feverish, dizzy, weak, etc.. but didn't stop himself from driving, medically the sickness could be the cause of death depending on the injuries sustained from the accident. All of these situations cause/effect are left to the medical examiner to investigate. Each of the conditions/injuries/illness are going to be listed in sequential order on the death certificate. So Covid, could definitely show up on a death certificate if there were contributing factors from this illness that led to a person crashing his motorcycle.
This is similar to any other accident caused by a medical event like a heart attack, stroke, PE... Any of those conditions would be listed as the medical cause of death if the person experienced them while driving, which in turn caused a crash, unless the cause of death was perhaps the accident itself that caused another medical issue, like aortic dissection.
This is also the same for any other condition. A person dies of a gun shot wound to the heart, but the actual medical cause of death for instance is Cardiac Tamponade. (compression of the heart by an accumulation of fluid in the pericardial sac). All of these events would show up on a death certificate as the sequence of events that led to a person's death.
Here is a reference if you would like to look into this more in detail.
https://www.health.state.mn.us/people/vitalrecords/physician-me/docs/capcodbook.pdf
Just a thought. I'm not saying I have any idea of the circumstance you are speaking of since every situation is different.
I also realize that some reporting may be in question as well. Our state of affairs is a hot mess.
Some thoughts I have about this particular situation...
Please look this up for yourself, or consult a medical doctor to confirm that this is true....
But, maybe this helps this type of classification of cause of death make sense in a more general way.
I work alongside a team who evaluates Covid patients on a daily basis for "treatment". This topic came up today. What was in question was if a motorcycle rider had Covid symptoms that severely impaired his driving. If he was extremely sick, feverish, dizzy, weak, etc.. but didn't stop himself from driving, medically the sickness could be the cause of death depending on the injuries sustained from the accident. All of these situations cause/effect are left to the medical examiner to investigate. Each of the conditions/injuries/illness are going to be listed in sequential order on the death certificate. So Covid, could definitely show up on a death certificate if there were contributing factors from this illness that led to a person crashing his motorcycle.
This is similar to any other accident caused by a medical event like a heart attack, stroke, PE... Any of those conditions would be listed as the medical cause of death if the person experienced them while driving, which in turn caused a crash, unless the cause of death was perhaps the accident itself that caused another medical issue, like aortic dissection.
This is also the same for any other condition. A person dies of a gun shot wound to the heart, but the actual medical cause of death for instance is Cardiac Tamponade. (compression of the heart by an accumulation of fluid in the pericardial sac). All of these events would show up on a death certificate as the sequence of events that led to a person's death.
Here is a reference if you would like to look into this more in detail.
https://www.health.state.mn.us/people/vitalrecords/physician-me/docs/capcodbook.pdf
Just a thought. I'm not saying I have any idea of the circumstance you are speaking of since every situation is different.
I also realize that some reporting may be in question as well. Our state of affairs is a hot mess.
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You were right. I was wrong. But I'll leave the disagree emoji I hit back then for the record that I was wrong. You had better foresight than me on this one, mate.
I thought the restrictions would be lifted in some reasonable time like 4-6 months or so, they lifted it in China and many other countries, it seemed unbelievable to me that a country like USA would go down like this. I still don't agree about the martial law because of Corona; it might happen maybe because of economic consequences of Corona, but not because of the virus itself. But I admit that you were right about a lot of things. This was a sufficient learning experience for me. In the future when I become an American citizen I will always put freedom first. Our feelings of compassion were abused to destroy the country and its economy, because we didn't want to see the sick and the elderly get hurt.
I thought the restrictions would be lifted in some reasonable time like 4-6 months or so, they lifted it in China and many other countries, it seemed unbelievable to me that a country like USA would go down like this. I still don't agree about the martial law because of Corona; it might happen maybe because of economic consequences of Corona, but not because of the virus itself. But I admit that you were right about a lot of things. This was a sufficient learning experience for me. In the future when I become an American citizen I will always put freedom first. Our feelings of compassion were abused to destroy the country and its economy, because we didn't want to see the sick and the elderly get hurt.
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